Gaming Goes on Trial: Results from The Supreme Court Hearing

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Macknzie

One point of clarification: It is virtually certain that we'll see a decision before June 2011. If the Court thinks it's a slam-dunk, given that this case is so early in the term, maybe before the end of the year. Most likely, though, I'd expect something early 2011. June is simply the end of the term, so is the last possible date for a decision (usually--the Court will rarely hold a decision over to the next term, and even then generally asks for reargument on a sticky issue).

This case does not seem like it would take the full term to decide, so I suspect early 2011 is the key time.

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brothertuck

From experience, 15 year old twins, I know that most game stores already use the suggested age ratings so that an adult has to buy certain games. Also, I think there should be a separate rating for violent games vs porn type adult games.

I know my son has played some M rated games that he gotten passed down from his older brother, my step-son, and maybe I am a bit liberal in my thoughts on this, but I feel my son is mature enough to play them and not transfer the experience to real life, and knows it's just a game, like R rated action movies are just a movie. If I see a part of the game or the movie I am concerned about, we talk about it. I know with him it's a release from a lot of pressures put on a teenage boy.

I think the biggest thing is, even though I am sure there are things I don't hear, we do talk about a lot of things, in games, movies, real life. I want to be able to make the decision on my son, and how I see things affect him, instead of the government or the industry trying to control what I watch and do. I try my best to keep up with things so that I can teach him to make the best decisions when I'm not around. The government doesn't need to put more controls on me and my kids.

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brothertuck

I just went to the ESRB ratings website to look up the possible ratings.

There already is an AO rating, adults only. If we just made sure that all gaming stores followed the ratings like video sales and rental place are supposed to, why need more? Keep the AO games in a separate area so only adults over 18 can look at them.

Just keep the ESRB, which is an industry standard now, like the movie ratings, and use them.

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US_Ranger

Wouldn't a "conservative" leaning court rule in favor of less regulation? After all, the conservative leaning court recently ruled in favor of less regulation for gun owners. (Heller vs DC) I imagine that the conservative leaning court would also rule for less regulation in regards to video games. Please don't label all conservatives as these social conservatives who believe it's their God given right to enforce morality upon the rest of the country.

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zNelson24

When I find something inappropriate for my tastes, I ignore it. If it's on the radio, I listen to a different station. I don't go out of the way to get the station booted off the air.

I understand that some parents may want to keep their children from playing violent video games, which is completely cool. I just ask that they respect my rights to play these games, and let the adults make the adult decisions.

Lastly I would like to say that I don't want to be stereotyped for buying stuff with a +18 label on it. I'm not a perv, and I don't want to get mixed up with people who watch porn on a daily basis.

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Ghok

Ever bought an M rated game? That's a 17+ title. I mean, there's a year difference there...

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zNelson24

I think that the "M" ESRB print, and a big "+18 ADULTS ONLY" send different messages.

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medicfirefighter05

Censorship is best left up to the parents, it is the job of the parent to protect their kids from items they find offensive not the Government. Parents need to step up and just tell there kids NO.

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jgivens

It's funny that Justice Sotomayor mentioned Bugs Bunny.  I'm 37, and I can remember watching uncensored versions of Looney Toons as a kid on TV.  Try finding an episode on TV where, for example, Elmer Fudd shots Daffy Duck in the face.  Ahhh..those where the days!  But now you have both conservatives and liberals trying to decide what's best for us.  Conservatives want to make sure we don't do, watch, or consume anything they deem unseemly, and liberals want to make sure no one is ever offended in any situation (impossible!).  People seem to think that it's just the right trying to stifle freedom.  Think again!  This is what frightens me most about issues related to the 1st Amendment.  I can remember someone saying the only thing more frightening than a Democrat or a Republican is when they work together!  I fear the outcome of this case!

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NicciAdonai

"Also, as Gamasutra points out, the current justices tend to lean more conservatively, which doesn't bode well for things involving the entertainment industry."

Don't get me wrong. I understand that "conservative" sometimes means that the political figures adhere to a stricter set of morals (which some may put quotations around, like so: "morals"). However, it also generally means that they lean away from unnecessary regulation (which some may put quotations around, like so: "unnecessary"), no? Conservatives haven't been the only political figures trying to regulate video games. Just saying.

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bathtbgin

you're right partially correct on that one, liberals are the ones who typically want to censor violent content, conservatives on the other hand want to censor sexual content.  either way they're wrong. 

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drian2001

M rated games make up about 10 % of game sales, why are they coming after such a small market share. the average gamer is 34 yo who cares what type of games they play. these high strung parents need to go back to there high school days and pick back up there habit and stop being hypocrites. i don't want digital downloads cause then i cant trade them for other games or cash.  

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stingray5001

where are you getting you info? cause unless you are counting playing for flash games and such all of the biggest blockbuster games besides sports games are rated M. modern warfare2, bioshock2, half life2, etc

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brothertuck

Each year there are hundreds of games released. The ones that get shelf space are the ones that make the most money. It's purely that there are so many other games made. One M rated game is counted as 1, one E rated game, or EC rated game is counted as one (also there is the RP rated games that depend on the user for content). There are also mini-games, usually rated E for Everyone. A quick game that you can play for a minute or 5 minutes, cost a buck or 2, and easy to download.

As for sales, the T and M rated game do a great volume of the gaming business, so a larger number are pressed and sent out.

It goes back to a line one of my math teachers use to say, numbers are like prostitutes, once you lay them down you can do almost anything with them. You just have to know what you want the final outcome to be.

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Founck

It would appear the solution for the worst case scenario (some games being removed from retail locations) will easily be solved by digital downloads.  Especially since digital downloads is the future of game distribution anyway.

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ShadowDragoonFTW

I'm more concerned over what standards would be put into effect if the ESRB is kicked to the curb. God only knows what kind of crazy, nonsensical rating system they'll try to put into effect...

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Muerte

Yep this is a slippery slope deal.  That's what the judges excerpts were showing.  The only thing that delineates video games from the rest of media is its interactive component makes them more immersive.  That's the only aspect that could push this over the edge. 

Is that type of immersiveness harming the decision process of the youngins?

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