GameStop Study Claims Game Downloads Won’t be Viable Until 2014

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DDTechGuy

In sunny southern California, EB Games and GameStop have virtually given up selling PC games...so where are they getting their info? Not from peeps who actually buy PC games; as for me, I've not purchased a retail package from a store for a couple of years now. (with the exception of some OLD games purchased for ghetto dayz from Amazon or GoGamer.com)

DDTG

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k11k

For all you loser who buy from Stream; Oh I just download it, but it doesn't seem to install. I can just return it and get a new one right? WRONG. You have to  go thru so much crap just to get Stream to say, I can download it again. That's why I will never buy from Stream or any other places, that does this. I simply use to solve my problem by just returning it and getting a new one. Plus I found out the same day that my local FRY's was selling it at $10 bucks less (Would got a nice hard copy for backup also). Also I just wasted 10 GB overall from redownloading from my cap, that could had gone to a HD movie. So I say to all you Stream user, "cry" when you can't seem to get that game you just downloaded to work.

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digital demon

I've used Steam for over 5 years and have never had a problem playing a game. Keep running out to the store and buying a box and manual and disc thinkng that it's nice to have a hard copy for a backup while we're not dealing with any of that crap and buying games for (at times) over half-off. Someone's gotta keep kickin' it old school.

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foamcup

Are you talking about Steam? There's no 'R' in there. I'd ask you to clarify but after looking at some of your other posts I see that English is not your first language. Anyway! If you get a game through Steam and it doesn't work, that means your PC doesn't meet the requirements to play the game, its' that simple. Learn to read. Steam, Impulse, D2D, and some others I can't remember are the wave of the future, time to put on your big boy pants and learn to accept change.

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isamuelson

BTW, you CAN backup your Steam content to install at a later time if you need to reimage your machine. However, I find it easier to just download it again.

Also, I've got it installed on my Windows 7 and my Windows Vista installations. You're allowed to do that. Logging into Steam is what prevents you from being able to play it on more than one machine at the same time. Therefore, it's not tied to your machine. It's tied to your account.

 

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isamuelson

Not sure where you're getting your facts from, but I've never had a problem re-downloading a game I've purchased through Steam.

I've gotten Steam to download my games under Xp, Vista and Windows 7 Beta and RC without any problems.

 

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nekollx

 Obviously thats cause hes using Stream not Steam

 

damn pirate

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isamuelson

Ha ha! I didn't notice that. Definitely, I've heard terrible things about Stream. ;)

 

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NeoTifa

I do most of my gaming on my computer, and I download. Given that I am in college and work, I don't download/play that many, but still when I do I generally download. What weiners. They're just trying to get more people in there by saying everyone else does. Blah.

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RedAnt751

 

 I love steam because I work nights and don’t have time to drive to GameStop and pick up games. I have never had any problems with mydownloads and at last count have 37 games purchased from steam.

The convenience outweighs the cons, I will keep buying mygames on line.

GameStop is Out of there minds if they think Consumers will belive this study. 


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NeoTifa

I do most of my gaming on my computer, and I download. Given that I am in college and work, I don't download/play that many, but still when I do I generally download. What weiners. They're just trying to get more people in there by saying everyone else does. Blah.

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isamuelson

In the past month, I didn't purchase any Steam games. However, over the past year, I have purchased the following games from Steam and other download services (although Steam is where I get it all now):

  • GTA IV
  • L4D
  • Psychonauts
  • HL2
  • Assasins Creed
  • Doom 3
  • HL source edition
  • Jericho (man, I wish I could get my money back on this one!)

I believe that's it. I've also purchased games such as Gears of War and Chronicles of Riddick (original) online as well. It's been awhile since I purchased a PC game from the store, but like another poster, I get them at Target usually. I picked up Bioshock for $20 over a year ago when they had a limited sale on it.

 

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Selfproclaimedtech

Simply put GameStop is afriad. They get alot of money out of buying back those used games and then selling them back for insane amounts of profit. For instance, new game comes out, Soandso buys and plays for 4 days before beating it. Soandso brings it back and sells 59.99 +tax game for 25-30 dollars. Gamestop now resells said game to some smuck for 54.99 on the basis that this is a new release. So purchase game from copyright owner to stock shelf. Sell for 59.99 + to person, per sells back, for say 25, game stop has loaned this person game for 4 days for 35 bucks, sells again for 54.99, making their total profit from ONE game $90....yes they would put out a survey like this....crossing their fingers that it would pose as a subliminal message to continue to purchase physical games......so you can sell it back to them of course!

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digital demon

I've bought 6 games through Steam just since the start of the year. I'm never buying a retail game ever again.

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misha573

I don't get how they pulled that out of where the sun don't shine.

I live in Trinidad (in the Caribbean...look it up...) and I only recently started a Steam account (about three months ago); I thought I'd try it as I hated the wait and extra costs that I had to pay to get a game down here.  I have purchased...let me check my account...ahh...Orange Box, Crysis and Crysis: Warhead,The Alien Shooter series (c'mon its mindless fun), and a bunch of others.  About seven games in three months.

I have to WILL myself to stop, this thing can be addictive, especially when games are lumped together at a "bargain" price.

The folks at GameStop must be blind, or you folks in the States really have it rough with bandwidth.  I mean I think the fastest we've got is "up to 10Mbps," but its enough for me to get a game in a few hours rather than a few days and a bit cheaper too.

In five years time, will there be anyone shipping games anymore?

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jakesbud4

I just bought the Orange Box from a retail store and had to log into Steam anyway to be able to install and play it.  I like the idea of it, and now that I have a Steam account I don't see any reason not to buy from them.  My only complaint is that nowhere on the box did it say I needed an internet connection to install, and had I not had one I would have been out of luck because I didn't find out until after I opened the package and popped in the disc.

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bingojubes

i don't like the nearby store's policy about upcoming titles since the beginning of the year (at least, to them). they mucked up my Mirror's Edge pre-order by now allowing me to pick it up on the release date, because i didn't have the stinking reciept, and claimed i was not in the system after 4 months of giving them my money. then i was told they would not be providing adequate PC game stocks any longer unless qoute "UNLESS IT HAS BEEN PREORDERED BY YOU, WE WON'T CARRY IT". i find that a bunch of crap. now apparently the only way i can get a game from gamestop is to preorder it. No thanks, Gamestop.

after what happened to my Mirror's Edge experience, i will continue to pirate games i wanna play, whenever i feel like it. ELIMINATE THIS PARTICULAR MIDDLE MAN!!! I hope Gamestop's recent study leads them into financial ruin. the persons that work at this particular branch aren't helpful, and they don't seem too enthusiastic about working there, either.

 

to date, i have olny digitally downloaded Left 4 Dead. 

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nekollx

 this is why i hate the 'gimmie' generation

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I Jedi

Just because Mirror's Edge from GameStop ended up being a huge rip-off to you, it doesn't mean that you should go out and start pirating games for now on. The fact of the matter being is that it wasn't the developers fault of Mirror's Edge that you didn't get your game from GameStop... it was yours... You should have kept the receipt and you didn't. So you took a gamble that they would actually have you in their system after 4 months, and guess what, they didn't.

Again, it's not the developer’s fault that you didn't get the game and you're hurting other developers out there, too, by stealing from them, as you say you also pirate other games. The only justification you could make from getting ripped off from Mirror's Edge was to pirate it because you know you already bought the game, so the developers got their money...

You're not only contributing to hurting PC game development with stealing, but proving a point that the PC gaming industry knows a lot of their games get pirated. So you're just being a contributor to the negative things that the PC gaming industry sees. It actually makes me mad to see that just because a company, like GameStop, maanged to fuck you over, you see that as a justification to just steal any game for the PC that you damned well please.

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mikemckay

I literally purchased and downloaded the expansion pack for sins of a solar empire about 5 minutes before reading this....it took less time to download and install than it would have taken me to drive to the store.

have also purchased orange box, bioshock, psychonauts, office, online....as well as some older blizzard games

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mpcrsc562

the last time i actually bought a game from them was the release day of the orange box

the only download service i have/use is steam and i wouldn't trade it.

if i must buy a game from a brick and mortar, target is the place. screw gamestop.

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cameronM18

Digital distribution not viable. HA! Dont make laugh. i dont even go to gamestop anymore because im to buzy buying from steam. 5 games in the past month, 20+ total. All from steam.

Seriously has gamestop lost it?

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I Jedi

Well, if you're main source of income was retail sales, and not online distribution, wouldn't you try to hide the truth?

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I Jedi

I haven't bought any games within the past month, but I can tell you how many games I have bought over the course of a year or so for DIGITAL downloads. Mainly, of course, from Steam itself, if not all. The grand total that I've bought off of Steam is 19 games.. 19 video games... Assuming the price range for each of these games was at least, or around 50 dollars, then I've spent around 800 dollars in online digital purchases.

 Now, as goes for retail games bought in the past year? I can count that number on one hand and even then it's only about three games. 

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knexkid

Hey, my bandwidth cap is 12 Gigabytes per month!  I would kill for 50!  I guess that is what I get living in the rural north woods where satellite is my ONLY option.  No gaming either :-(

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compro01

12?!  You'd be better off with dial up if you have a decent phone line.  a 44.6k connection will give you 13.8GB/month.

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I Jedi

Not to mention that sattelite cost out the ass. I think he'd be better off with dial-up, too.

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nekollx

 *hugs Charter*

$40 a month, 5GB connection

no caps, no plans for caps

oh and we have a free movie channel on the cable box to boot

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Coming soon to Lulu.com --Tokusatsu Heroes--
Five teenagers, one alien ghost, a robot, and the fate of the world.

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Hutif

I've purchased a lot of packages...

If you count them individually, then...  26.

Half of them in the last month.   It's sad, I used to like gamestop.  They're in the "denial" stage right no, you know.

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nekollx

 uh...6?

Prety much every weekend deal they had had on steam....

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Coming soon to Lulu.com --Tokusatsu Heroes--
Five teenagers, one alien ghost, a robot, and the fate of the world.

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foamcup

Not viable my ass, I haven't purchased a physical copy of a game in nearly two years, and I haven't set foot in a LameStop for longer than that.

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thegamepro

They are obviously smoking something because the next generation of consoles will probably be exclusively digital and publishers would make more money by selling their games digitally for $40 than if they sold it at retail for $60 because retail is easier to pirate and they'd have to pay for shipping, boxes, manuals, discs, duplication equipment, etc.

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I Jedi

Not to mention that they could also put in DRM code that would restrict a game to a specified user account, like Steam does. This is the way business models need to do it, I believe.

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Tekzel

The last game I bought for my PC at retail when it was close to release was "Age of Mythology".  The last game for my PC I bought at retail period was Halo 1, and that was just before Halo 3 came out.  I wanted to play it and hadn't played either 1 or two so I got the retail PC version of Halo 1 then bought a used copy of Halo 2 for my 360.  Last full price game I bought for my PC was Fallout 3, on Steam.  I have bought a LOT on Steam since around Christmas though, most of them on the "weekend deals".  I check every Friday and see if they have something going that I just can't live without, like the one before the last when I bought the Penumbra pack for $10 bucks.  Awesome deal, got way more than my moneys worth on that purchase.

I can't see myself buying games at retail ever again.  The 360 is my wifes and I only mess with it when I get a game that either wouldn't run well on my PC (Q6600 CPU, 4GB DDR2, but a lowly 7800 GT video card that I can't afford to upgrade) or is an XBox exclusive, like Halo 3.

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praetor_alpha

Other than AA3, the last game I got off of Steam was World of Goo, sometime back in December. And the only game that I have bought since is Sins of a Solar Empire (hard copy) in February-ish.

I'm not a compulsive game buyer, so what? I'm in classes upwards of 8 hours a day. Now it's break, so I can unwind.

By 2014, everyone will have consoles will be built to handle full game downloads, and won't have the puny hard drives they do now. So non-pc digital distribution will take off at the next console cycle, likely before 2014. As for bandwidth, just download it overnight on your 512k DSL line.

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Devo85x

One of the 3 is free though (America's Army 3) but the other 2 were Orange Box (it was when it was $10 so I didnt feel bad paying for an extra HL2 and the Episodes... the last was Bioshock (yes i waited this long to buy it)... like a lot of gamers, I perfer to have a disk, but it can be just as good for certain reasons, for example, I am going to rebuy some of my games (origonally bought the disk version, going to buy through steam) because I am going to be a senior in high school next year and do not want to take disks to college... as for 2014... bullshit... they probibly only asked pure console guys and they would more than likely say no (the only "game" i have bought on console that was downloaded was Fable II Pub Games because I wanted in game money when the actual game released)

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poipoipoi

this is clearly a "don't worry, investors!" B.S. study designed to counteract all the inroads Steam and the new Onlive and Otoy services are making.

 I suspect CD stores did the same thing around the time online music started getting mainstreamy.

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DrBeat

GameStops litter my area, I occasionally scan through there for used GameCube games.  I remember a point last year when I approached the sales rep and asked "where the heck are all the PC games!?"  I was told that they don't carry them anymore.  That essentially ruled another in-store PC game vendor for me.  I'll stick with Steam.

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Jox

...only 25 percent of customers will “have access to the technology required to download full games.”

This seems like the only part of this study to be remotely accurate. As long as Bell (here in Canada) and whatever US equivalent refuse to update their residential lines, and ISP's get away with imposing download limits (250 GB/Month is great for ComCast subscribers, but my cap is a paltry 60 GB/Month) services such as Steam will not see their full potential utilized.

When I have residential access to optical fibre lines with no download caps then (and only then) will I consider online distribution methods to be the mainstream.

-Jox

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DCDi

All my games for the past 2 years have been purchsed online. You  know that you can always download your games again no matter what happens to your hard drive, lose your disk, or replace your computer.

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shomval

about.......4? its really more convenient 

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poipoipoi

you'd rather be s.o.l. in case of fire or theft, or losing the disk, or scratching it. Good plan.

 

I've migrated my Steam games thru 3 different computers (and hard drives) in two differnet countries, btw.

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Gailim

steam games are not tied to your hardware. it's tied to your account

you could DL your games on to 10 different computers simultaineously, you just need to log into your steam account to play them. you can't be logged into two different computers at once but you could log out, move to the next computer, log out again, move to the next computer, and so on. if you lose or scratch a disk your SOL. you can never be SOL with steam as long as you remember your login info

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icebird

Past month - none.

Past few months - HL2 Orange Box

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DravenX

Well I haven't bought any in the past month because I've been deployed for the past month.  However, I have bought a few games from Steam but it's always nice to have the CD just in case if you lose connection or you are awhile for a while.  Like I am now.

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mesiah

I would be interested to see the exact scope of the study. If it was centered around or heavily favored gamestops downloadable content I could easily see why they would come to these conclusions. From what I have seen gamestop overprices there downloads. Of course they aren't going to get alot of business. This isn't brick and mortar where the inconvenience of having to drive a few extra miles to save a buck just isn't worth it. When competing with companies like steam, they just price themselves right out of the competition.

But to be fair I still don't feel right not having a retail package of my game I paid real money for. I like having a hard copy in my hand complete with the manual that I'll probably read while sitting on the toilet because it was the first thing I saw when I got up to go to the bathroom >.> Maybe that makes me an old timer, but even so, 2014 seems a long way off, seeing how most people are content with buying their entire music collection off the internet, why not their games?

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cicicicico1

2 games:

 

-left 4 dead

-AA3 

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Darth Ninja

4 or 5 games from steam last month I'd say.

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D.E.

Brick and Mortar stores still have some juice in them as being the defacto way to get games, but by 2014 which is still a ways off, they have plenty of time to lose ground. But as it stands, kids, soccor moms, etc- they all go to EB-Stops all over.

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