First Look at Intel's Haswell Processor Pricing

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Rift2

AMD is the future all of thoem console games will be multicore.
I would pick up a a Haswell but that means I need a 200.00 MB top of the 250.00 Haswell you can buy a PS4 for that price and have exclusive games like Destiny.

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UnoriginalXIII

You fucking dipshit! This is maximum pc, not shitty console discussion page.com. First of all, the PS3 has shitty specs, and even now is considered a low end gaming pc. Also, Destiny was announced for the Xbox. as well. Also, AMD's flagship processor just barely beats out the 3570k. For fuck sake get your priorities straight you fucking Intel hating asshole

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ohsnaps1104

I've got an I5 2500K @ 4.5GHz on air. I also have a HD 6970 2 Gig model. To be honest I haven't been impressed by AMD's GPU's. Their CPU's seem to run like a jack rabbit. I had a Phenom II X2 BE that would not over clock to save my life, but two cores unlocked stably and W7 was so snappy. My, 6970 however does not like certain games for whatever reasons, it chokes on UT2004. Even after I upgraded to my I5, it still drops frames here and there causing a weird image stutter. I know this because I tested an old GTX 465 in my build that worked with UT2004 amazingly. Besides that, it took AMD about six months after the card came out before I got optimized drivers that didn't make my 6970 sound like it was trying to peel out and take off.

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AFDozerman

Problems with AMD GPUs but you tink their CPUs run like a jackrabbit?

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Blam

At the same time my i7 920 and 6970 2gig got me through the new Tomb Raider with TressFX and most the settings up with decent frame rates... @1080p though, had my other 2 monitors in portrait mode doing other duties.

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ohsnaps1104

What I meant was my 6970 stutter seems to happen with a few games, most newer games, even Crysis, run fine with most settings turned up. Well, I also happen think of AMD CPUs more like a Ferrari and Intel More like a Mack Truck. Intel seems to able to carry heavier loads in one straight shot, while AMD seems to handle lighter loads much quicker. This is why I believe Intel wins at gaming, as most games are just not properly formatted for full multicore support. I don't think they will be until Windows is designed fully for multicores and they can take full advantage of that fact.

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And3rs0nTX

These chips are ridiculously overpriced. I'm going to stick with amd because their prices are actually decent.

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NotYetRated

If they offer 10-20% performance boost over the previous generation, I do not see them as overpriced at all. $300 for a processor that should easily last 6-7 years, transferring from a main PC to a secondary PC is well worth it IMO.

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Typo91

I remember paying $989.00 Bucks for my QX6700 CPU

It was worth it, that chip is still a beast, even today i run my secondary computer with it.

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steven4570

well that depends on how the cpus benchmark and what you want to use it for...

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khalladay

I second that

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Insula Gilliganis

If Tomshardware.com is to be believed, that site wrote "the pre-production Core i7-4770K is in the neighborhood of 7 to 13% faster than Core i7-3770K in today’s threaded workloads" (tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html). The site also lists the specs of the 14 CPUs that make up the "Fourth-Generation Intel Core Desktop Line-Up".

REMEMBER.. when factoring whether or not to buy any of these new CPUs, they are all LGA 1150 so a new motherboard will also be needed. Concerning this, Tomshardware wrote "The LGA 1150 interface means you’ll need a new motherboard with an 8-series chipset. Fortunately, the updated platform gives you six SATA 6Gb/s ports and six USB 3.0 ports (14 total ports, including USB 2.0). At least from the enthusiast angle, everything else is pretty much the same."

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vrmlbasic

I'm not going to say that the 8350 is going to outperform them in single-threaded tasks, but I do rejoice a bit in seeing that even the cheapest is slated to be pricier than my brand new 8350.

That highest class i5 is 80 dollars more than the 8350 I just bought. I wonder how it will compare in multi-threaded tests.

With games I play rocking on 2 cores, effectively, I sometimes wish I'd gone Intel for my gaming PC but with the nigh-instantaneous obsolescene of parts (as seen here) and the high prices for even the intermediate chips, I couldn't; it's hard to get the best from one chip maker at ~$174 and not be able to get the minimum from another chip maker for that.

Can that i5 4430 best an 8350 across the board?

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Sparx10

please please please please use solder to connect the heatspreader to the die and not some shitty thermal grease again, pleeeeeeeeaasee

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Xenite

Seeing how games are just now actually starting to make use of multiple cores, these are fairly unneeded. Unless you are doing heavy graphics editing. Haven't found a game yet that even taxes my OC'ed 955 black edition.

People seem to be out of touch with what they need versus what they THINK they need. Even the podcast guys seem a little power delusional, they complain that AMD may not have a newer Radeon line out in 2013.... but why? Their current top card can chew through ANYTHING out and ANYTHING coming out in the next few years.

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vrmlbasic

I love my 955 BE OC'd to 4.0 Ghz but I fear that what you say is only partially true. While most games fail to fully tax the 955's 4 cores they do, in my experience, tax one of them unduly and games suffer for it.

Older Unreal Engine games lump the vast majority of graphics processing into one mere thread, out of laziness or convenience for the Xbox I don't know, but the 955 flags when this one graphics thread is given a heavy load, as it is in Borderlands 2 when dynamic shadows are enabled. If only games would take advantage of the cores, or the advances in GPU tech, for rendering (oh noes, that would take some of the gazillions of Epic's dollars for R&D).

They tell us that games aren't CPU bound--MaximumPC even recommended the 955 a few weeks ago because of this--but then the tech sites tell us that games are CPU bound. Guru3d considers the Crytek engine to be a CPU benchmark. It's very bipolar.

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Nimrod

Sorry but your wrong on oh so many levels. There may be times when your playing FC3 while standing still looking at the ground with low settins when you 955 isnt maxed but thats not a true example of the real world sorry. Please dont pretend like your games load as fast an overclocked 2011 part because your not fooling anybody. The benchmark with regard to the AMD parts show why your wrong so theres no need to get into that.

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Glenwing

What are you even talking about? Game loading time is limited by the hard drive far before the CPU. No one's comparing the performance of a sub-$100 CPU to a $600 Intel 6-core but that being said I have a first gen i3 which still chews through most games on ultra, the only time I've seen it at 100% load is when it's folding.

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Glenwing

EDIT: Accidental double post

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praetor_alpha

I got Sandy Bridge (i7 2600) when it first came out, and the motherboard replacement delayed my Portal 2 play a bit. Oh well, it runs fine, and I'll keep using it for another three years or so, or until something major breaks.

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Fastvedub

I love my (old ass creaky 920 @ 4ghz).Still can't find a game to even phase it.And even the older quads are still a great chip,the q6600 does need a high overclock and the l2 cache is lacking but even still it will play any game just fine.I have core 2 duos e8400 @ 4.3ghz on air and it does not seem to be enough cpu even at those speeds.far cry3 maxes it out,have not tested many other games on it yet though.anyways creak on.;)

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cmasupra

I'm also running on my i7 920 @ 3.8 GHz and my GTX 480. It's plenty of power. I can render a 1080p video while playing a game without any issues.

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Hilarity

The 3770 would vastly lower your power consumption while providing a decent boost to minimum FPS. Yes its definitely.

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anthemmobil1

What is the "S" for in 4770S

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TheAddisonJ

Low power, 65w instead of 77w for the 3rd gen. :)

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eelhead

K - Unlocked (adjustable CPU multiplier up to 63 bins)
S - Performance-optimized lifestyle (low power with 65 W TDP)
T - Power-optimized lifestyle (ultra low power with 35–45 W TDP)

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siramic

Thanks for that break down, eelhead.

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CaptainDoug

Usually means a lower powered chip.

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Hilarity

Paid $297 for my 3770, non K (I can't be fucked overclocking anymore). Won't upgrade for at least 2, if not 3 years. What for? Next gen consoles are already getting old and few games can use the sheer grunt of the 3770 anyway. People are still using creaky old ass 920's and Q6600's anyway.

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CaptainDoug

Funny. My laptop just died so I bought some old desktop with a Q6600 in it and it's 3x better than my laptop which had a T2390. Old and creaky to some is more power than any computer I've owned. I'm one of those "early adopters". ;D

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HVDynamo

I ended up getting my hands on a QX6700 2 years ago and have been running that at 3GHz. I have no complaints with the speed of it. It runs all the games I play well enough for me to be happy so I will probably wait until Broadwell to make the upgrade. Although I am getting a little antsy for an actual new machine, so I might end up making the jump on Haswell.

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CaptainDoug

I'm more than happy with it. My GPU could use an upgrade though... I have a hard time justifying upgrading to an 1155 socket when the 1150 MB's will be on sale soon enough.

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ceator3571

I am still using my "old ass 920" and it works great with all the games I play. Yes newer games, i.e. Far Cry 3.

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Maggard

I have to agree. Have my C0-step i7 920 on an H100 OC'd to 3.66GHz (it's all she'll take) with HT on and I have yet to find a game that will make it sweat.

It's a delicate balance between RAM, CPU, and GPU. I thought about upgrading my CPU for awhile and then realized that, even though it was amazing for it's time, my GTX 295 had become my system bottleneck and my 920 really is still a beast.

This may just be a "Tock" to skip, at least if you're on 1366.

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