Firefox 6 Hits Aurora Channel

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GetOutOfBox

The whole version gimmick Mozilla has taken up is extremely retarded. There is no logical explanation for why someone would develop both a V5 and a V6 when the whole point of version numbers is that they increment, the bigger being the better.

It took years to get from v3 to V4, and Version 4 was justifiable, as we got a shitload of new features (Hardware Rendering support, support for newer web standards, etc). In this short of a timeframe, the upcoming V5 and V6 will be more like v4.1 and v4.1.5.

The dumbest part about this whole thing is that most of Mozilla's userbase is experienced tech geeks, who aren't fooled by lame marketing gimmicks like this. Perhaps Microsoft could get away with it, but virtually everyone using Firefox is intelligent enough to see the new version system as the marketing gimmick it is.

And lastly, why is Mozilla adopting such a strange marketing system? They don't stand to gain money, as the software is free and the site ad-less. Why be obsessed with getting more users?

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Sparx10

This new release schedule is pretty stupid. It only seems like they are moving faster than they are, but they aren't.

You'd think this would be painfully obvious but I guess not, they seem to have plenty of people fooled. For instance, on their old release schedule they would slowly increment, like 3.0.x -> 3.1.x -> 3.5.x, with each of those increments being a semi-major release (usually fixing many bugs and adding tiny features that the public doesn't really care about like "Added support for CSS animations" (Firefox 5 example). But with this new release schedule, instead of going from Firefox 4.0.x to 4.1.x, they are calling that a major version release skipping ahead to Firefox 5. It's just a gimick to make you think they are working faster. I hate this new change, back when Firefox went up a version number you could expect huge awesome changes, but now it's just these tiny bugfixes and rather useless features. They haven't changed their release schedule, they just changed their naming. We could still be on Firefox 1.9.9.9.9.8.6 depending on how the developers named it. It just wouldn't look like it was a substantial release.

/rant :D

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Dartht33bagger

I agree.  The new release schedule is just stupid and is only there for show.

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Neufeldt2002

Please BAN the IP addresses of these spammers below. Maybe a ban on their IP addresses for a period of time will make them go away for good.

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AETAaAS

I think that would be pointless, they probably rotate IPs on a dynamic network or run proxies. Best way IMO is to use a captcha that requires a little knowledge, which will help to weed out the lesser geeks. For eg;

Does the Radeon brand belong to ATI or nVidia?

Does a Double Layer DVD carry 8.5 or 9.4GB?

What is the maximum frequency and multiplier on an AMD Phenom 955? xD

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Engelsstaub

Firefox 19 is tentatively scheduled for 2012. :P

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Mighty BOB!

I absolutely despise the new interface in FF4.  I don't like or use Chrome for the same reason.  If I wanted a browser with Chrome's interface, I'd use Chrome.  As such, I'm not upgrading from 3.6.X.

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kitemankiteman

You change Firefox v4.0 back to earlier version by ..right click on Navigation Bar and uncheck (Add-on bar). This will make v4.0 look like earlier versions. It will move Tab bar back to bottom. Hope this helps. :)

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Engelsstaub

I'm actually torn between Firefox and Chrome on both platforms. (I just use the default Firefox when I'm dicking around with Ubuntu 10.4 LTR.)

I started using Chrome a little while back in place of FF and really liked the simplicity. Just started playing around with FF again and it doesn't seem bad at all. I don't know about all of this crap though. I think Google really made everyone crazy with this so-called browser war and everyone else is desperate for attention with the constant updates.

...but here's an area where I'd like to limit myself to one or the other ;) What's Google's browser marketshare at now? I think Internet Explorer and FF are still the most used if I'm not mistaken.

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Dartht33bagger

Wow.  We are already talking about Firefox 6 and 4 only came out a few months ago.  This new release schedule is fucking stupid.

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dl49

I've been using Aurora for a few weeks now and have discovered a small hiccup that of which users should be aware.

Depending on what you set as your default browser, using Aurora can lead to FireFox checking for add-on compatibility every time you launch it. To avoid this behavior (which is more an anoyance than anything else), be sure to set whichever version of Firefox you're using the most within Aurora as your default browser. If you keep changing your browser or launching a version that isn't your default, Firefox will insist on checking add-on compatibility when you launch.

Interestingly, a day or two ago Aurora began treating the FireFox 5 BETA as the "release" channel version. Naturally Mozilla's explanation of "channels" and how Aurora works is comnprehensible only to the very computer literate.

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grayscale00

It's because you're using the same profile for both you're firefox stable and aurora. Use a different profile for aurora to skip the addon compatibility test.

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wolf17

If you guys want to see what Aurora 5.0.a2 looks like w/out downloading it yourselves (6 looks exactly the same but has more bugfixes under the hood), I have some screenshots up on my blog.  I really like the tab groups feature; however, Chrome has really spoiled me with Flash integration and a PDF reader so I don't know If Firefox can win me back :)

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silentrob187

"Shorter release cycles mean that Mozilla has absolutely no time to bask in the glory of Firefox 4’s success."

Uh what success?  Hype?  I was a HUGE fan of Firefox until I discovered Chrome.  I read the recent browswer battle in MPC and decided to try out v4 (which is an obvious attempt to be more Chrome like).  What did I find?  FF4 is still slower and prone to hicups.  It even slows my rig down at times if I have too many windows with flash video open....and I have 8GB of ram and a quadcore.  Chrome never does this no matter how many tabs I have open with flash.   

I think the quicker release cycles simply indicates that FF needs to improve more quickly (i.e. like Chrome which is on v11) if it wants to try and remain a leader among non-IE browswers.  Granted Google has more labor and resources, but that is exactly why it is producing a superior browser at this point.  Heck I hate Google and I have been forced to admit their superior product!  Anyone who is a doubter use Chrome for 1 day and I guarentee you will notice how slow FF is.  I think MPC got it wrong in the showdown due to a loyalty bias...in terms of REAL world use Chrome is a step above Firefox.

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Neufeldt2002

And I have found the exact opposite to be true. Chrome crashes and does not work well for me, and FF has been rock solid with the same speed. I have submitted bug reports to Google for Chrome several versions ago with no fixes, I think I will stay with FF. Currently using Aurora since it came out with hardly a problem.

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tiger_shark

same here, chrome seems to keep crashing on me while ff is pretty smooth & solid with my system. that's why i'm sticking with firefox.

that to me is saying something as my laptop only has dual core proc & a paltry 2gb ram.

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Engelsstaub

Upgrade that RAM someday when you get a chance, man. Windows will thank you for it :) I think you're totally fine with a dual-core on a laptop though. I still have mad-respect for the C2D even though I have a quad i7 as well.

I've never had a problem with either browser though. But what's right for you and your system can not be argued with.

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mgoodman

"For developers, Mozilla has added the Scratchpad to let them quickly build and test Java snippets within the browser."

I think you meant JavaScript, not Java

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