Firefox 5 Released

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nforce

It doesn't support the google toolbar. Am I the only who uses the google toolbar?

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Kakkoii

Yes, you are. Because the URL-Bar by default is already a Google search bar... Go ahead, search something in there.

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jbwhite99

Everytime I update FF, I lose a couple of addons - so has everyone updated for FF5?  I don't think the poor developers have had a chance to finish any fixes from Version 4.

 

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Kakkoii

Well, Mozilla recently created a system that automatically checks if add-ons are compatible with a new major version of Firefox, and automatically edits their max version on the add-ons page. At least, it did that for one of my add-ons I created. Perhaps it hasn't done it for everyone, I dunno. Or those add-ons you lost didn't meet the criteria I guess.

You can always manually open up an add-on file using Winrar, and edit the install.rdf file, change the max version, closer the rar, and drag the file back onto Firefox. Will allow you to install the add-on now.

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nmanguy

Well, FF5 is only using 600 megabytes of memory, which is much better than FF4's gigabyte. I'd call that a major improvement.

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Kakkoii

Uhh, you sure that's not just because you restarted Firefox? Having many webpages open will create a sort of memory leak that continues to grow. My Firefox tends to get into the GB range too. But then after a restart (all tabs re-opened again), it's back down to around 600MB also.

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Kalabajooie

Didn't NASA try something like this, popping out small, cheap missions quickly? Lost something like four Mars missions IIRC. Best of luck Mozilla. I'm sticking with Chrome.

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theresapartyinm...

The last time I used Chrome was in April and I stopped using it because the download manager was just too awful for me. Firefox just pops a window up with a bar. I love that. I also believe Mozilla needs to fix the UI quickly because restoring a previous session should not be hidden in a menu. I hated having FF3,3.5,3.6 because they seemed like they were just small updates, but they were actually huge, so although I think it is stupid that they won't make the UI better each version, it is good that we don't have to wait years for a completely new version to come out.

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Kakkoii

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-statusbar/

Even better^. It's a lot nicer and not so intrusive since it doesn't pop up a big window covering much of your view.

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bloodgain

I can agree with that. By the time 3.5/3.6 rolled around, they had made enough improvements that they might have been justified in calling it 4.0.  Going the other direction and releasing a "new version" every 6 weeks is obviously nothing but marketing, though. It's ridiculous and meaningless.

I am glad they are stepping up development, though.  Maybe we'll end up with significant enhancements and performance gains every 6 months now.

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bloodgain

Mozilla isn't the only company doing this. It seems like software companies are pushing harder to play with the numbers just to sound like it's something new.  Enhancements to currently supported features and standards is not a new version.  If these are *significant* enhancements, then maybe it could be considered Firefox 4.5 -- probably more like 4.1 or 4.2.  Firefox 5 should imply major reworkings of the HTML or Javascript rendering engines.  The jump from 3.6 to 4.0 brought a huge leap in support for new web standards.

Shame on Google for starting this in browsers. They did have a faster development cycle, but Chrome should be called Chome 3 or 4, not Chrome 12.  Every release is not a whole new version, that's just misleading and goes against users' expectations.  Nobody does 4 true releases in a year.

They could at least use the Ubuntu scheme of naming them YY.MM if they want the number to grow faster. At least that makes some sense.

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don2041

Rearanging a few icons and changing some colours does not do any thing. Its like  win98se &winmillenium, a joke

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wolfing

way too fast. They went from one extreme to the other. From 2 years to 6 weeks?  Couldn't they think of a better point in between, like every 6 months?  Fast enough to make it fresh, but slow enough so there is actually something to get excited about?

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Dartht33bagger

This new release schedule is stupid.  They should have just stayed with the same system that they have been using for years.  Get ready for Firefox 13 by next summer.

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Holly Golightly

Am I the only one who thinks that FireFox is moving way too fast here? All they needed to do was update FireFox 4 with just tabs on the top, no need to release a completely new generation just yet.

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I Jedi

Mozilla is currently facing issues right now. Along with not gaining any market share, there is the potential that Google may not renew its donation in the upcoming few years to give Mozilla a new round of funding, which it needs to stay in business. Right now, Mozilla gets around 80% of its funding, I believe, from Google. With Google now having its own browser in the wild, Google is going to be less inclined to support a competitor's browser over their own. Mozilla is just trying to stay relevant in the marketing world, so this rapid release should not have been unexpected.

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Holly Golightly

All that Mozilla FireFox needs is a more simpler UI. There is a lot to look at even in FF5. Chrome is gaining market share because it looks simple and fun smoothly. People want more screen estate and less browser. To be honest, I do not know what to expect if they keep releasing a new version every 6 weeks. By next year, who knows what version of FireFox we will be on. What I would like Mozilla to do is revive my favorite browser of all time; NetScape.

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Dartht33bagger

I hate Chrome because of it's bare bons UI.  The reason I am still nto using Chrome is because of the UI.  If Chrome had the option to look like FF3 (just like FF4 and FF5 does) then I would possibly switch. 

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Holly Golightly

I can totally relate to that. I myself am a big fan of Mozilla, and I use the NetScape theme. To be honest with you, I really would love to see NetScape to make a come back. The NetScape team is the same team that made FireFox. But even I know that Chrome is just gaining market share like silly. Internet Explorer, and FireFox seem to not be growing at all... Maybe decline while Chrome continues to grow. I do not know what it is that makes it so popular, but perhaps people like the barebones essentials. 

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