FCC Cracking Down on Cell Jammers

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tiger8sugar

I'm a Correctional Officer of many years. Most Correctional Officers are professionals. Yes, there are some bad apples. Criminals are opportuneness that will and do use cell phones to conduct illegal activities. This is an ongoing problem. States have requested and lobbied the FCC for permission to use jammers at institutions.

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maleficarus™

Tiger: A kite works much better then a cell phone. Go to the kitchen and clean the trays. You get a kite everyother tray LOL

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maleficarus™

I will agree with you. Most are professional.

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habuza

You do own airspace above your homes, 20' above the highest peak in the state of MN where I live is the rule, I have to deal with a problem called "aerial tresspassing" on a daily basis. But this only deals with physical objects in that airspace, you have no control over RF signals and such going through your air, but jammers are fun as hell to use, I've seen them cause some hilarious things. Personally I think vehicles w/o hands free communication equipment should have a jammer of some sort in them because I have a zero tolerance for people who have that piece of shit phone plastered to their ear, or are texting. There is nothing so important that you need to endanger other people in a motor vehicle.

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stev2891

Public safety trumps convenience regardless of how much was paid to lease the public’s frequencies. The industry and the FCC have proven themselves unable or unwilling to police the illegal use of cell phones/texting while operating motor vehicles or in venues deemed inappropriate such as hospitals, airplanes, prisons, schools, etc...

Perhaps if the FCC weren’t preoccupied with attempting to usurp dominion over the internet they would have time for mundane responsibilities such as pubic safety.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

I think you're confusing the FCC for Comcast. Comcast wants to own the Internet. The FCC wants us to share it evenly.

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tiger8sugar

Jammers should be allowed at prisons. Ther is a national problem with cell phones being used by offenders. Phones that are installed by the instututions can be monitored. Illegal cell phones can not. Cell phones used by offenders allow them to conduct illegal activities.

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maleficarus™

LOL, you don't need a cell phone to conduct illegal activitys in a prison. Do some time then come back and talk..I served 6 months in max. Can't stand it when people with no clue think they somehow have a clue?

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jaygregz

Your were in max for 6 months. That hardly qualifies you as an expert on the matter either. The other guy has stated that he was/is a corrections officer of many years. I also have worked over 5 year corrections in a maximum security prison. The guy probably has more knowledge of what goes on in a corrections system than you do. Don't flatter yourself.. what happens in prison isn't exactly rocket science or anything that needs on the job traiining to figure out.

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martinzombie

Back in Mexico criminals use cell phones in prisson to extort from inside their cells. They should use these to prevent this from happening, but as always, guards are very corrupt.

 

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thetechguy2010

You do not own the airspace on your property. That is reserved for the signal spectrum. Don't like it?Deal with it. Signals need to be able to travel freely. Jammers cause interference with these devices and their signals. Interference-causing devices(to the levels of jammers) have always been illegal. The FCC is just reminding people about it.

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Nimrod

Spoken like a true slave, now piss off. Just because the giant telecoms own the rights to use a spectrum does not give them authority over it, thats actually called fascism FYI. Legally the use of these jamers aught to be the same regardless of whos paying off the FCC. And the fact that some giant megacorp did buy the rights to the spectrum, makes most people care about it even less.

If the net neutrality/internet 2.0 shit goes thru pretty soon your AdBlock Plus will be illegal to. I mean after all, the advertisers DID pay for the use of the website space, so those ad blockers SHOULD be illegal right? But then again, deal with it.

 

 

/finger

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Tenhawk

"Just because the giant telecoms own the rights to use a spectrum does not give them authority over it, thats actually called fascism FYI. "

UH... last I checked the telecoms weren't the ones laying down the law. The FCC is, and THEY have authority over the spectrum... While I'm not sure that I agree with the ruling entirely, it should certainly be illegal to block the signal to any public place, as well as any private place that belongs to someone else.

That said, if a ranch out in the middle of nowhere wants to limit calls to a landline... that's not an entirely unreasonable situation.

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Nimrod

Look ia agree with you. The part of my post about the telecoms was in response to the first post. I know that the FCC is the group in charge but the first poser made it sound like Verison was.

 

The problem is that YOU are half right. First of all, I SHOULD under the constitution have just as many property rights as any god damn ranch out in the middle of no where. Secondly, the law says that even in your hypothetical case its not allowed.

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martinzombie

So your going to sue airplane companies that have routes above your house? LOL

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Caboose

I'd pay to see that trial get thrown out of court!

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thetechguy2010

Double post

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jlh304

Remember that the cell phone companies have bought the rights to the RF channels in use. They have paid the FCC millions for each channel. You putting up the jammer is blocking their signal that they paid to use. You have no right to jam the cell phone company. Beside you don't own the air space over you land. You probably don't even own the mineral rights to your land either. You are just being passive aggresive inforcing your will on others by using a jammer (like the a hole driving slow in the fast lane).

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Nimrod

DP

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Nimrod

Newsflah, non slave human beings could give a shit less about what megacorp bought the rights to the megnetic energy coursing thru their bodies. I man hell, i can brodcast on any FM station i want depending on the power output of brodcast.

 

You are a slave.

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Caboose

I think someone's tinfoil hat is a little too tight!

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martinzombie

This is the way things are....we all know how megacoprs controll everything, but seriously why would you want to block a signal in your home, are the "slavers" going to intercept your calls? there are places in the world with no signal of any type, so there would be a nice place to live for people with this issue.

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aarcane

these so called megacorps didn't pay me a dime, they own nothing over my property.

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marcoshid

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0ly1r3m@1ns

cool dose this law affect canadians? i have one of those :D:D:D

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mikeart03a

Hey there buddy, as a fellow Canuck, jammers are quite illegal up here as well. They have been for a long time.

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MrBlueCheese

Currently, this only affects the US.

However, other countries could take suit.

Side note: Why does the Subject bar not work? I type stuff in it, yet nothing happens?

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ronaldp423

There isn't any technological reason to not simply filter call signals. Calls to 911 and other emergency services could always pass through. Calls to private and commercial numbers would be blocked. This is especially needed around schools. Lets face it - none of us, as teenagers would have had the self-restraint, not to play with a cellphone at school.

And, rude or idiotic people can't understand; or respect; that simply because you have the ability to do something; doesn't imply that it's right to do it. Like including strangers in a public place in their sophomoric conversations on a phone. If they stay out of my life - I will stay out of theirs.

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TheZomb

Have gone to a public place and seen or heard two strangers talking to eachother? How are cell phone converasations different, would you like the world to just lay silent as you walked by? I'm tired of this bullshit where people complain about phone conversations. I really don't understand why they're so much more annoying than a normal conversation to bystanders.

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MrBlueCheese

The problem is that they are using these calls when they should be focused on other things.

For example, I work at a retail store and i've seen countless times where people are more focused on their phones then the transaction.

What i mean is, they should be focused more upon what is the more "pressing" matter, then having a conversation.

What if they had a dispute with the amount of money they gave me? Sure, i could call the manger to handle the dispute, but it out of respect, they should hang up the phone, then proceed with the transaction, then call that person back once they left the store.

I'm not advocating that cell jammers should be allowed, but i think a call filtering system (especially in businesses) would be helpful.

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israel09

Becuase people seem to talk more loudly and have less regard for people around them when on the phone. Imagine yourself trying to enjoy a movie with your girl, or have dinner, or wait on someone in the hospital wating room. Some guy or girl yaking louding into to there phone would really piss you off. 

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schwit

Maybe the FCC ought to focus on why people buy jammers. Maybe people want some peace and quiet while eating or watching a movie. Maybe they are tired of idiots thinking it's possible to safely drive and use the cell phone.

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aarcane

FCC Needs to get to steppin' off what I do in my own airspace.  If they want to transmit cellular waves where I've designated on my own property that they shan't be allowed, they can license that space from me and do so.

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TheZomb

Clear and present danger, it means if you pose a danger to others your rights don't exist.

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btdog

What the heck are you talking about?!  Clear and present danger is a limit on your free speech - it has nothing to do with jammers or preventing cell phone usage around you.

Clear and present danger.  In America we enjoy the freedom of speech - the Government is not allowed to infringe on your right to say what you want or imprison you based on what you say (though that is slowly changing).  However, clear and present danger is one exception.  You are not allowed to say something that will cause immediate and certain harm to others - like yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater.  Another perfect example was the protests in Wisconsin.  IF someone had been speaking to the audience, telling them they need to tear down the assembly doors and 'string up' the Republican congressmen, THEN the police could have responded and removed that speaker - BECAUSE the situation was so tense, certain harm existed (stringing up the Republicans) and it could result in immediate action by the mob.

 

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Sodman

dont be so stupid, there is a limit to what freedom is all about and when it comes to peoples safety sometimes freedom has to come second, or shall we argue that this is my house and i can have a nuclear weapon there just because its my space and i should be allowed to do whatever i want to. 

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