European Union Expects to Fine Microsoft Up to $7.4 Billion for "Technical Error" in Windows

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Xenite

EU can always be counted on for sucking cash out of American corporations.

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htm2112

Litigation is getting out of hand. I like Samsung comparing their loss to Apple against what it cost to send Curiosity to Mars (http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/09/samsung-wasnt-allowed-to-compare-apples.html). Can we start putting money back into innovation instead of these crazy batshiat suing bonanzas???

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Nimrod

"the EU may look to make an example out of the software maker"

Yeah, have fun with that EU. Well see what kind of example is sets when MS decides to say FUCK IT and quadruple the price of their products in the EU to make up the difference. The EU is not the one holding the gun here and I think we all know that.

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xRadeon

So where is this 7.4 billion going? To the EU? Sounds like they just want money to me. I don't know though...

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godsdog

I never had a problem installing firefox or other browser on windows. The problem is not Microsoft but sites like we have were i live from the government that only run properly on internet explorer, that's the problem, fine them... If EU wants more browsers they should force all government sites to be compatible with all browsers and not only IE.

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xRadeon

That's way there is IE tab for Chrome. :)

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warptek2010

I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, Microsoft has been known to thumb its corporate nose at rulings and should be penalized. On the other, the EU's fines cost WE the consumers in the long run. You think Microsoft is just going to accept a billion dollar fine and write it up as a loss? Pass it on to the consumer... without letting them know of course.

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spart1981

When did Microsoft start building PCs? Or do they go and install the software to each individual PC themselves, because Dell or HP doesn't know how?

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xRadeon

Good point.

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tony2tonez

I guess Microsoft is part of the EU Bailout Plan.

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Budman_NC

Technical error = accidentally on purpose!

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Scatter

Agreed. 28 MILLION PCs isn't just a small "oops" accident.

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ApathyCurve

Exactly. Microsoft has been pulling this sort of cutesy crap for years, and the US courts have repeatedly slapped them for it. I'm no fan of the EU (to put it mildly) but I'm with 'em on this one. They need to pull out the big stick and beat Microsoft like a misbehaving stepchild, until they finally begin to understand that "no" means "NO!"

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emzfrendcrisis

So, yes, the EU fined Microsoft and mandated they have a browser ballot, and Microsoft shipped "flawed" copies that didn't follow the mandate. Yes, they disobeyed. Fine them. But, I disagree that only Microsoft has to put a browser ballot on the operating system. Apple doesn't have to do it, and people justify it saying that "they are not violating anti trust laws". But, didn't the the anti trust verdict say that Microsoft is guilty of bundling a web browser with the OS? Well, shouldn't that apply to everyone? Shouldn't Apple have to do the same thing? Or are anti-trust laws only valid on companies of certain size? Basically, if you have done well, then they impose new restrictions on you that disadvantage you. Microsoft loses part of the freedom they have because they grow so large, and others still have those freedoms because they are "small" and "insignificant"... which is stupid, because Apple's iPhone once was THE market for smartphones, and the EU never attacked them.

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someuid

You're talking yourself in circles. The anti-trust suite doesn't apply to Apple because (1) they haven't used their control on the OS to block out other browsers and (2) they didn't get sued by anyone.

If and when Apple does something like this, a complaint or lawsuit has to be filed first before a ruling can be made and a judgement passed. You can't just pull up a case's findings and start applying it nilly-willy to every company without due process.

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Nimrod

You are a complete moron. Your second main point isnt even an actual thing. Its just something stupid you made up. Who did they "block out" exactly please?

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xRadeon

I don't believe that Microsoft has blocked out other browsers, they've always allowed other web browers to be installed. And if you're referring to having IE default, well, Apple does that as well with Safri.

Also that last part there is how whole Judical system in the US works. When cases are closed they can be used in future cases as leverage of how something was rulled, this is how most laws come into place. So yes they may need to be sued by the EU, but to say that every single company needs to be sued to get something generally applied to all them is not very logical thinking.

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Vordar

I completly agree with you emz, Apple needs to be slapped with the browser ballot too, the EU looks biased towards only milking one Company, someone should tell the EU that Apple has deep pockets too.

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