Electronic Arts to Shun Steam with Mass Effect 3 Release

64

Comments

+ Add a Comment
avatar

KenLV

Origin is B-A-D. BF3 is the first and LAST purchase I will make that requires it. If EA insists on Origin use, no more BF, MOH, ME, etc... for me. I'll get by though.

avatar

spokenwordd

Well as much as I enjoyed ME1 and ME2 I will not be getting ME3 if I'm forced to go the Origin route. As a dedicated PC gamer the console is not an option I would choose either. It's either Steam or nothing.

I'm sure EA will sell alot of units regardless of my minus one but it seems that there are tons of PC gamers who aren't having it either. The one thing that sucks is that there are some who will just get it on a console version and ultimately it will weaken the PC market for this release anyway but I can understand why someone would go that route.

For me, playing a shooter on the PS3 that is in the house will never happen so it's bye bye unless ME3 hits Steam.

One thing for those who are going from PC to console to avoid Origin, how will you import yout game data from ME1/ME2?

You suck for this EA and my memory is long...

avatar

Ghostryderflyby

I enjoyed the first 2 ME games too much to boycott ME3 (that and I per-ordered it months ago), so I'm going to have to put up with the terrible Origin interface for one more game. BF3 was my first experience at being stuck with Origin and it was to be my last until they announced this crap. ME3 will be my second and last. There are no other EA titles that I just have to have, so after ME3, EA will never get another dime from me!

At least with Steam you can play games offline, and their interface actually works and is intuitive. Origin requires an internet connection to play games, and the interface SUCKS!!!! 15 frackin windows open just to play one damned game. Ridiculous! Get a clue EA. You are alienating your customer base in rapid fashion!!!

avatar

muramasa451

Fool. If you bought BF3 on Origin, and are going to buy ME3 on Origin, you are going to buy the next 'must have' game there too. And Origin will continue to be Origin, and EA is just going to keep doing this BS. People like you are why PC gaming is going down hill. There is always another 'last one'

Please Note: Westwood Sudios was great until....EA bought them, and people like you gave them BILLIONS of dollars.

avatar

bling581

"People like you are why PC gaming is going down hill. There is always another 'last one'"

A person can dislike something without having to boycott the company. I felt the same way after BF3, I didn't want to buy another Origin exclusive game again, but then I tried SWTOR and it doesn't require Origin at all except to purchase. If they're all like that then I don't have a problem with it.

avatar

Nimrod

"Electronic Arts to Shun Steam with Mass Effect 3 Release, Players to Shun the Game as Result"

Sorry, i dont want Origin installed on my computer. Its a virus. It steals all of your personal information and sends to advertisers. Fuck EA.

avatar

thechipper

 "Restrictive" my ass. Greedy and foolish marketing step. Making Origin means that you miss out on over 100million hits a day generated on steam. Origin is an obnoxious system. It doesn't interface well with it's 4-5 good titles at all. It even seems to hog a lot of resources for something so simple compared to steam. I think Origin is just dead in the water and a waste of EA's resources. Stick to what you used to be great at...sort of.

 

avatar

ocnier

What I don't get is that with sales of MW3 on steam, why would you limit yourself.  Monopolistic control only works if all the players involved (activistion-blizz, ea-bioware) are on the same page.  Clearly activision is not and it seems will simply reap the rewards of a more available business model.  Can EA be any more stubborn?

avatar

praack

well - that will stop me as well- no more Mass Effect- looks like EA is losing another customer. Just have to agree- being forced into Origin is not my idea of proper business. since the other outlets are only allowing initial purchase- and then you are again- forced into Origin. the model Just skirts monopolistic behaviour

 

avatar

wctieman

Guess I'll be skipping ME3 as well, sorry EA but I'm not going to be forced to do business with anyone......other than the IRS

avatar

Gumby

The only game I have on Origin is BF3.  Compared to Steam, it's a no-brainer.  Steam is better in every way possible.  I had a heck of a hard time getting it to work properly on my gaming PC.  Maybe EA will fix it, maybe they won't.  But I do remember hating Steam at first too.  Being forced to use Steam to play CS instead of WON made me very unhappy and I was a Steam hater for a long time.  But the product matured and now I like it a lot.  Maybe Origin does that and someday I will like it too.  But I would have prefered that EA work out a deal with Steam and use something that has already been proven to work well so we could all skip the teething stage of Origin.

avatar

std error

I will be getting ME3 on Origin. My experience with it for BF3 is fine. It launches the game, and I can play the game. No problem. It might scan my system specs and my installed programs but I am fine with that. I even participate in Steam's own hardware survey. I want publishers and developers to know what my specs are so they can develop games better, fully utilizing my 7970s and Eyefinity resolution.

If you can't accept the fact that having an online account and start-up online verification is the 21st century's version of having the disc in the tray then it is time to find a different hobby because no matter how much you bi**h and moan we aren't going back to discs in trays and you are (or will be) missing out on the best games of the year.

avatar

lunchbox73

I've never once had an Origin related problem and besides the initial purchase and installation there is never a reason to actually interact with Origin. Steam, Origin, I don't care. It's the game I care about.

avatar

Nimrod

Are you retarded? It DOES NOT launch the game dip shit. You click the BF3 icon and its starts to load Origin, then in origin you click BF3 again and it sauys launching BF3, but it doesntm i laods a fucking web page. Tell me, why do you need Origin to launch a web page? Are you retarded or some thing? The Origin hacks clearly shows the game doesnt need Origin to actually run and that its just a fucking scam for idiots like you.

Enjoy.

avatar

lunchbox73

By the way, are you this much of a prick in the real world Nimrod or just when you can hide behind your browser? All you ever do on this site is bitch and moan, insult people constantly, and play adult with your swear words. Grow up.

avatar

pplrcrybabies

I completely agree. I have BF3 as well and have had no problems with Origin.

avatar

krash3x

So far I've been able to live with out Battlefield 3.  I guess Mass Effect 3 can go there as well.  Steam has been the best thing that happened to pc gaming in the last few years.  EA on the other hand needs to be broke up.  They are just too big and anymore buying a game from them is more like an extended rental.  They don't do it to stop piracy.  They do it so its inconvient for you to get your game reactivated in hopes that you will buy a new copy.  Everyone is talking about how these game companies are getting ripped off by pirates and all these antipiracy commities there to protect ea's intellectual rights.  What about us?  Who is protecting our rights as a consumer?  How many times have you accidently scratched or broke a dvd and couldn't play the game anymore.  What are your choices?  Ummm pirate the game, or buy a new one.  Thats one of the advantages of steam was that you didn't have to worry about that.  You can download it and play it on any of your computers that you chose.  Now EA has instal limits.  Why is it if I pay for a game on the PC why do I have to buy another copy if I want to play in on my ps3 or xbox360?  I don't care about the fake over estimated piracy figures that they release the reason why they do these things is because they are lazy and don't want to develope for pc's with different configurations.  We are getting to the point where we don't really own anything.  This is what is going to kill the gaming industry.  Sorry about the rant guys but they are killing my favorite franchises.  RIP Pandemic.  Sorry to hear about your terminal illness Bioware.  

avatar

Marthian

Still makes me wonder if EA pulls this on purpose just so they don't have to develop for PC Gamers. I mean seriously, from a market standpoint (And a lot of comments here and everywhere else.), it is not only just alienating (sort of) your customer base, but you are essentially cutting off a large amount of profit. The way I see it, I'd rather have my game on Steam and get money from copies sold there despite losing some of it to Valve rather than not have it on there and not get any money from those commenters that would prefer to buy a game on steam only.

avatar

Dartht33bagger

God I was hoping this wasn't going to happen.  Mass Effect 3 is the only game I'm looking forward to this year and they pull this.  I wish I could just get all my games on Steam like I used to be able to -.-

avatar

zNelson24

I can see a lot of people pirating the hell out of this game with the gross dissatisfaction they got for Origin.

I myself do not have a problem with getting my games from a second content distributor, but Origin has shown to have a bunch of privacy implications, not to mention your not allowed to join a class action lawsuit if they commit any drastic torts agianst their customers.

avatar

immersive

I am not totaly sure that Origin is not spyware but I can tell you that it IS MALWARE.

The expression is a general term used by computer professionals to mean a variety of forms of hostile, intrusive, or annoying software. (Wikipedia)

Since you can NOT disable POP-UP advertisments like you can on Steam.

I got a refund for Battlefield 3 due to the pop-ups and support told me they "CAN NOT BE TURNED OFF."

avatar

std error

Isn't spyware a subset of malware?

avatar

Ghok

Oh well, plenty of other games to buy on Steam.

I used to be against Steam, but Valve earned my trust by providing a quality service. It's going to take a LONG time for EA to do that, given how much they frequently suck.

avatar

cocallahan

I will not be purchasing this game or any other EA game due to the Origin requirement. I do not purchase games that require GFWL. While I am absolutely a Steam fanboy, I do also get annoyed at games that require Steam (Civ V and Skyrim come to mind, I'm sure there are more). I don't avoid them because they do not cause me to go out of my way to play them, but there are some folks who have no interest in Steam and just want to play the game. They should be able to.

avatar

US_Ranger

Wow, this sucks. I guess I won't be finishing the series then. That's too bad, I was really looking forward to the last part of the trilogy. Oh well, EA can burn in a fire and I'll just have to use my imagination for the ME3 story because I'm not installing their crappy software. It reminds me so much of GFWL that I don't want to deal with it. I skipped Dirt 3 because of GFWL and I'll skip ME3 because of Origin. Bye EA, thanks for being pricks. 

avatar

austin43

I know you can use a modified xlive.dll file to remove gfwl from many gfwl games, I wonder if there's something like the BF3 Origin-less mod out there?  If so you may wanna look into that, because I can't imagine missing this epic game for any reason.

avatar

knowname

wow, the artical shows EA pulling for the little guy for once and STEAM being the a$$tard yet everybody's jumping on EA for this one! Wow I don't get you guys at all.

 

But anyway all this makes me not want to buy games all together! EA's pissin on Steam for pissin on the consumers? Sounds like a bunch of piss to me, leave me out of it!

avatar

DasHellMutt

You've got it all wrong my friend. EA wants you to think that this is about connecting with customers. In reality, EA wants to be able to screw customers by giving them different content depending on where they purchase the game and by playing games with DLC like making you get it through them rather than automatically through Steam.

 

Steam is pulling for the consumer. Their stance is that if the developer makes a peice of DLC available in one place, it should also be available to Steam customers via steam's integrated process. It enforces uniformity and fairness that are in everyone's best interest ultimately. Integrated updates are also part of the value of Steam. They keep people playing on Steam and ultimately buying more titles.

 

EA can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. I don't intend to ever support another EA title unless they reverse course on this. If Microsoft can enforce this kind of control on xbox and eveyone agrees its the way things should be, why can't Steam? By the way, Steam has roughly as many users as xbox. They truely are a gaming platform and should be treated as such.

EA is just walking away from millions of potential customers just because they want the right to screw them over. What a wonderful company.

avatar

firefox91

Bullshit. Steam is a far superior platform than Origin. I was forced in to Origin to play BF3. I was rewarded with an additional hour worth of work just trying to get the damn game installed because of various install errors. This is "the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game" ? Seriously. Why do I have to have Origin and a webpage running just to play my damn game? This EA trying to squeeze money from the consumer by trying to force Steam out of the market. It isn't going to happen. EA puts this on Steam, but really it is just EA tayloring their policies that will force Steam out of eligibility.I will relucticantly still get ME3, but I will hate EA for the way they did this. 

avatar

t.y.wan

I hated and still hate steam... haven't use origin yet, but it would be interesting. Since using my own browser shouldn't result in slow f*** up like in steam.

I wish games can use old style browser that actually supports lan, nice virtual private network that also works, and finally, singleplayer that is able to offline install, like the word singleplayer means.

avatar

Insurgence

And not necessarily that they have it, but that it is required. I have a problem when I am required to install additional software just to run a game a legitimately purchased. I hate the idea that I have to be logged into something, and have an account with my information, just to make it work. Obviously with the exception of when a features of a product specifically require online connectivity, such as online multiplayer.

There are just way to many accounts required out there, and these companies are being targeted by hackers.

I also hate the fact that I have to have a different account for each game company, and the reason for that is so that they can provide me with subpar features that I really will not use, or burden my computer with more useless bloatware than it already has.

On top of that, take Dragon Age or Dragon Age II if you were able to purchase it them through Steam. 1: Steam is supposed to be its own form of DRM. 2: Why do I have to be logged into 2 accounts just to verify that I am allowed to use DLC? 3: By allowing Valve to distribute DLC through steam you can tie the distribution of that content to the game itself so that it either automatically updates or is downloaded/installed with the game, instead of installing the game, then downloading the content (not necessarily in that order) then installing each piece of DLC seperately. It provides a a more user friendly and seemless connection between the user and the distro. You can still provide the social features of the game through your own crappy social site if you want.

 

Those are my pet peaves.

avatar

t.y.wan

SUPPORT! The idea of DLC (features cut from the game) introduced after launch, with a price is a total rip off in the first place... and the fact that, a freak tonnes of developers doing that is disgusting.

avatar

Teeebs

Priestly is a LIAR.  Origin IS spyware.  Any program that searches through your hard drive looking for anything and everything that's installed on your system, and then phones home with it's findings, should be classified as such.  The truly disgusting thing, is that installing it and agreeing to it's data mining activities is required to play the game....

 

Personally I will still buy ME3.  But it will not be installed until there's some way to run it without Origin.  The only reason to buy this one is to see the conclusion to Shepard's story.....after which EA gets punted to the list of boycotted publishers.  At least Ubi has some company now....lol

avatar

omen3330

I don't know if you know this but steam also gathers system information. 

 

http://www.valvesoftware.com/privacy.html

Point: Origin is a new platform that will further diversify online distibution and improve the market through competition. 

 

Counter Point: Orgin sucks and its a pain in the ass to have to memorize two whole logins (zomg).

avatar

Scatter

I'm confused.  Why would you purchase the game only to not install it?

avatar

Teeebs

Did you read the rest of that sentence??

avatar

Scatter

Yeah, you said that you wouldn't install it until there's a way to run it without Origin.  But as of now there is none and there's no guarantee that there ever will be.  So why purchase a game that as of now you won't be installing?  You'd still be supporting E.A and Origin by purchasing the game.  Wouldn't a better suggestion be to wait until an alternative becomes available and then buy it?

avatar

cocallahan

I'm with Scatter on this. If you're going to buy the game you might as well install it. If you're not going to install it, why support EA with your money? In the long run if they cave and allow you to play without Origin it'll be so far down the road that the game will be much cheaper.

avatar

Teeebs

So you're basically saying I should just go ahead and pirate the thing?  Seriously, there are ways to neuter Origin....sandbox anyone.  Plus, it looks like the single player game might only need Origin installed to initially register the game.  Not interested in multiplayer anyways....

avatar

MrSelatcia

I was apprehensive initially when Origin was announced. Then they followed through and screwed over their customers and I found out that I don't miss EA at all. There are a lot of great game developers out there, making great games, most of them for much more affordable prices.

Goodbye EA, you won't be missed.

avatar

Vordar

I dont have any kind of personal vendetta with EA or Origin, I can only speak from experience. Here in Mexico, EA lists phone numbers that are disconnected, email support goes unanswered in the best of cases, normally (worst case), the email is returned by the server. The listed office for EA Mexico is only a group of people that deals with distribution, they dont know anything about support or customer service. I have always bought my games from Steam (7+ years), they always sell games in Mexico where other online services (D2D) dont.

And not talking about the ban hammers applied left and right without reasons, taking away games from gamers. So no more ME for me, unless I buy a console and get a physical copy.

avatar

superbelt

I really, really hate Origin.

Every time I ever logged into the thing, it updated the Origin software and requiring an Origin platform restart.  And certain updates wiped out settings I had, like the install path.  Games were getting installed to my primary drive, which is a SSD, and filling up its limited space.

It was just a tremendous pain to work with, and if this is going to be a requirement going forward, they can count out any more sales from me.

avatar

bling581

I really love Steam, and I really didn't like BF3 via Origin but before everyone starts complaining please realize that not every game requires you to launch Origin. I purchased SWTOR via Origin and except for installing it I haven't had to launch it once. Everytime I play it the game initializes it's own client and has nothing to do with Origin.

I strongly prefer Steam but if all I need Origin for is to purchase the digital copy then it's not so bad.

avatar

lunchbox73

Agreed. Who gives a crap? Sure I like Steam but playing BF3 involves dealing with Orgin almost 0%. Once you log in for the first time there is no reason to ever go back in. You guys are freaking out over nothing. Get over it already.

avatar

bling581

Sounds like sarcasm to me because I don't know anyone that likes playing BF3 on Origin and it does require it. It logs you into Origin and from there you are forced to launch a web browser which then launches you into the game, except that half the time it doesn't work correctly. Lots of times it launches into a black screen, the client crashes, or it freezes on the spawn screen. Want to change modes and you have to exit out of the game and relaunch it through your browser again.

avatar

lunchbox73

It's not sarcasm. I've had zero issues like you've explained except for a few hours on patch day. Otherwise it works flawlessly for me.

I open my browser, go to battlelog, find a server I want to play on, and click join. The Origin login screen appears for literally a second (my username and password are saved) and the game starts.

What's so difficult about that? I spend 0 time in the actual Origin app.

BF3 has always run fine for me and Origin has never been a problem. It took a while to get used to Battlelog but I like it. It's a good system.

avatar

bling581

Well then you're lucky you haven't had many problems. Maybe they have to do with what browser you use? I haven't played BF3 for a few months because I got addicted to Skyrim when it came out and now SWTOR. Battlelog is something I haven't tried yet so hopefully it improves the experience.

avatar

pplrcrybabies

+1

avatar

majorsuave

For the sake of functionality, why not let Steam handle the updates/DLC for Steam users and push Origin to those who don't have a game manager already? 

 

I purchased Mass Effect 1 and 2 both on PC AND Xbox. I will buy my copy on Xbox anyway because it was my initial playthrough and I want this Sheppard to go on, I will eventually buy the PC version if it becomes available through my favorite retail channel :)

avatar

Brad Chacos

Yeah, this might not be the forum to admit it in, but I've been playing the ME series like crazy on my Xbox. This only confirms that I'll be playing the 3rd one there, too.

Log in to MaximumPC directly or log in using Facebook

Forgot your username or password?
Click here for help.

Login with Facebook
Log in using Facebook to share comments and articles easily with your Facebook feed.