EA Defends Its Imminent Victory as “The Worst Company in America”

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West996

“Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.”

I am one of these users. I only have Origin because I wanted BF3, another release that was far from smooth.

Why not site some real numbers. Like games, bought, dollars spent on the average 'registered user'.

My Steam account has 14 to 15 titles. Many of those full price titles ($60) range.

My Origin has one game and one game only.

Something tells me I am far from a minority example here.

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renodude18

I wouldn't rate EA as the worst company. But they aren't the best company ever but which one is? I have many games by EA and most I buy in store as I value showing my games off rather than having a digital library but from what I've used of Origin for games like Sim city it has come in handy, Like recently when I was sent out of town for work for a week all I had was my laptop to game on and I purchased the Physical copy of Sim city and was still able to download it without question. I also enjoy that they keep many games going although it's been sad that until recently I haven't seen a "good" CNC game since the 3rd series released a few years back. Also just because a company has different point of views I'm not going to knock them down as a company is a voice of many rather than just one.

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Camerone

I wonder how many of those 45 million registered users only have Battlefield 3 in their library...

Definitely the worst game company in America, but worst overall business? B.P. wants a word with you

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boidsonly

I think EA should hire Orth from MS-they both love "always online" DRM...

Many of the same people whining about the always online requirement are the same people playing the game(s). If you play their game(s)-quit whining. You have become part of the problem.

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QUINTIX256

>"... Just call it something else; claim it is an innovative new feature"
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7070-Bullshit-in-Sheeps-Clothing

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PhaQue

Worse Than Petulant Schoolgirls

EA serves a market chock full of crybabies, children and those who think that their collective asses should be wiped by mommy on any whim or fancy.

I admire them for taking candy from babies. Crying over a video game...pathetic. Four billion in revenue for FY2012...priceless!

Go live without a toilet or clean water. That would give one some perspective.

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Renegade Knight

I see that you took time out of your busy life of philanthropy to fling some poo.

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PhaQue

Poo flinging is easy to do when you don't have a toilet.

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dgrmouse

It's pretty stupid that they suggest they're doing things right because they have X number of users. There are 630 million Indians that make do without a toilet, but that doesn't mean that peeing in the bushes is the next big thing.

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markljackson

Google and FB are the worst companies in the world.

They have been for several years. Why they are not tying for this “award” is beyond me. Considering the site that is running this silliness claims to be pro-consumer; they sure don’t understand being anti-consumer.

Google is a threat, and FB is a thief. How is that NOT put them in the running for WCIA? Bias?

NOTE:spare me the “they were in the tournament” BS. They should be placed directly in the final four every year, they are so bad.

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ApathyCurve

The Consumerist is a thinly-veiled front for neo-socialism and has been since its inception.

That said, I remember fondly the days when the Electronic Arts logo -- a stylized "EOA" -- invariably meant that a quality game was inside the package. It was a brand you could trust. Those days, alas, are no more.

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Engelsstaub

I implore you, Mr. Jackson: where does Apple rank on your Hierarchal List of Sinister Organizations™? I think I speak for everyone here in that we simply must know.

@MPC staff: I think we should have a poll.

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jgottberg

I like the trademark on "Hierarchal List of Sinister Organizations" lol

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MrPC2010

Worst video game company for sure.

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pammihesterberg67

up to I saw the bank draft which said $8134, I did not believe ...that...my cousin was like realey bringing home money parttime on there computar.. there sisters neighbour started doing this for under 16 months and resently took care of the morgage on there cottage and got a new Mazda. I went here, Great60.com

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wolfing

Definitely the worst game/software company in America (hell, they're even worse than Microsoft nowadays, though Microsoft seems to be using EA as their role model)

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Renegade Knight

Dang. I didn't even have to post. You covered my bases. Thumbs up.

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kiaghi7

- “Many continue to claim the always-on function in SimCity is a DRM scheme. It’s not. People still want to argue about it. We can’t be any clearer: it’s not. Period.”

Ahhh but it is... Period(s)...

When you have to tell someone that it "isn't" something, that means it is... If it weren't, they would already be aware that it was not, thus there would be no need to question that it is.

It's a DRM scheme like any other always-on game, Diablo 3 and innumerable MMO games spring to mind. With a MMO game, that's what you've bought into, so it's a given that it has to be always-online in order to actually function. But with a single player experience, with OPTIONAL multiplayer functionality, to force it to be always online is simply asinine as the world has overwhelmingly agreed is the case.

It is nothing more than a means of control over the end-user, and their options with the game and the future of that game. To even suggest or pretend otherwise is disingenuous and a bit insulting that they are basically saying to your face that you're just too stupid to understand why they are doing it...

- “Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.”

Alrighty, what's left out is that Origin/EA is merely counting the entirety of "registered users", not the active users... On a slow evening Steam is typically 4-5 million strong and you actually don't have to have Steam "in the way" of your game play. The DRM-tastic "let's control how you play" alternatives like Origin and Uplay are nothing more than efforts again to control how the end-user plays with THEIR game THEY bought and have fair-use freedom to use as they see fit.

But EA with Origin (and Ubisoft with Uplay) want to not only control how you get the game, they want to control how you use it, and then when EA inevitably shuts down servers for the game they will basically take your service for that game away and give you the middle finger, heaven forbid people be able to make their own servers after the fact or better yet be able to play the game as they see fit... After all games like BF1942 saw far more life through the modding community and independently hosted servers than many games of its ilk typically do.

- “Some people think that free-to-play games and microtransactions are a pox on gaming. Tens of millions more are playing and loving those games.”

F2P is here to stay, and microtransactions are the way those F2P games become profitable. That's not much of a tremendous problem in and of itself. However it's when games and their developers are in it solely for the sake of making money at the expense of making a good game and the balance of that gameplay. The nickle-and-dime approach of all too many online games is the infuriating part of it all. You want to carry more than 3 things in your inventory? That'll be $5 for 2 more slots please! Oh, you need 10 slots, well will sell you a discount on 10 slots for only $24.95!

Some ideas are better than others, and what EA has done with their approach to SW:TOR is easily described as "Operation: Money Grab". Nearly everything is monetized, you practically have to pay to log-in... The F2P style of the game isn't to blame, but their idea of a good F2P model is what's the problem. While not perfect in any F2P game I've tinkered with, there are many examples that have done it much better.

As to their copout that tens of millions like it:

Tens of millions of people also like communism.
Tens of millions of people are also keen on the idea of racial/ethnic purging.

Just because a lot of people are willing to go along with an idea doesn't make it a good idea, it just means there are either a lot of people willing to tolerate a bad thing, or worse still a lot of people that are stupid enough to accept a bad idea.

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Ghok

Yeah... there's nothing wrong a Steam competitor. It's just that Origin isn't nearly as good. With so many games I'd love to play and not enough time to do it, I'll just stick to Steam.

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AETAaAS

Under the Origin point, I'd just like to add; 45 million people is fine to report but that doesn't mean we have to like it. I pre-ordered BF3 being stupid as I was and didn't realize I'd be infected with Origin in the process. EA is forcing players to have something they don't want with something they do.

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kiaghi7

exactly my thinking too, more or less compelling the customer to go along with an onerous system just to do something they like doesn't mean they support the onerous system...

Just look at the recent Sim City debacle of epic proportions. Many many thousands (if not tens of thousands) of players inconvenienced solely because EA felt the compulsion to make a game that has perennially been a SINGLE PLAYER game, into a lobotmoized psuedo mmo shadow of its former glory that ends up lacking all the good parts of a MMO game and castrating all the best parts of a REAL Sim City game.

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germanogre

Of course people play free-to-play games. It's not as if they're offered a choice between:

A: the old model (get lots of content for $60 bucks)
B: the new one (free, same amount of content for a total of $120)
C: the in-between option (get 80% of the game for $60, buy season pass for $30 to get 15-30% more content).

P.S. Worst Company needs a better definition. If we're talking about the greediest companies, I'd place it right behind AT&T and Comcast.

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Lateralus

Interesting how Monsanto and Goldman Sachs never seem to find their way into these worst company competitions.

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TheRyGuy

I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's crazy what Monsanto is trying to do. More power to the local farmers. There's so much greed in the world!

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markljackson

Monsanto? Really? You must be a deranged “earth warrior.”

Goldman Sachs? sounds like you are just jealous they have no need for your business due to it’s LACK of funds.

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dgrmouse

You can only defend Monsanto because you have no clue how ridiculously powerful they are. They treat their seeds like software: instead of granting first sale rights, they license their use. You can plant the seeds, but you can't replant the progeny without paying a yearly "technology fee." They've basically managed to create a fiefdom where all farmers, landed or otherwise, have to pay in perpetuity on what should instead be a one-time fee.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Who gave them that power though? Monsanto certainly didn't force farmers to initially use their seeds.

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DirtModeler

Monsanto is terrible, because they expect bees to abide by their laws.

An organic farmer can have a crop of soybeans accross the street from a Monsanto farm growing GMO soybeans. The honeybees pollinate both crops of soybeans, and thus cross-pollinate them.

At the end of the year, the organic farmer isn't allowed to save his seeds under a very real threat of lawsuit, because his seeds now contain some of the GMO soy's DNA. And they have patented it.

Monsanto has sued, and won against countless organic farmers whose crime is only that their farm is in proximity to a farm that uses Monsanto seeds.

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dgrmouse

DeltaFIVEengineer asked, "Who gave them that power though? Monsanto certainly didn't force farmers to initially use their seeds."

A hugely corrupt US government gave them that power. The patent office is partly to blame, the legislature is partly to blame, and the judicial system probably owns the majority of the blame. Seeds and plant cuttings have been traded since before recorded history, but it was our government who decided that Monsanto could legally institute an entirely new and unfair pricing model. Without even getting into the ethics of allowing patents on genetic material (seriously, someone owns and can charge fees against genetic traits!), it's historically unusual and fundamentally nonsensical to pay yearly fees on a one-time purchase.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

You're right, the government gave them the power and the farmers/consumers ate it up. It is unfortunate that the farmers who want nothing to do with Monsanto are being forced to deal with them because of their neighbors decision but this isn't the first instance of the government giving corporations sweeping power.

Greed got us into this mess and who knows how we'll pull ourselves out of it.

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Biceps

Monsanto is without question the most evil company in the world. Close second would be Bechtel, tied with Goldman Sachs.

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Jox

Biceps - "...Close second would be Bechtel"

Not that I'm arguing, but why Bechtel?

-Jox

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Biceps

Hey Jox,

Bechtel has a long history of being evil - longer than Monsanto. One thing to know about them is they are still a private (family owned, actually) company. They stay a private company in my opinion specifically because it means they aren't subject to the same level of scrutiny a public company would be. I googled a report that was put out about them fairly recently... pretty sick stuff: http://www.citizen.org/publications/publicationredirect.cfm?ID=7249

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USraging

Cell phone companies should be on this block for data rates that are limited and way over priced.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

^ This

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OMGweDEAD

I wouldn't say the worst company in America, but probably the worst in its field, and Origin is not a real competitor for Steam. I mean i do buy games through Origin, and Games for Windows Live for that matter, but only if they are not available on Steam. However after installing the game i add a shortcut to Steam so i can see it in my game list and pretend the other services don't exist.

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smithbd01

EA did handle the entire Simcity release very poorly, this isn't the 1990's and companies aren't just now learning the demand for online gaming. No, not even close. However, the worst run business/companies in the United States, are not the gaming companies. It's a true toss-up between the banks and their ability to create money out of thin air. (see ATM transaction fees) Or, you can also make an argument for any United States run Airline. Go and take a look at these other international airlines. Take a look at Lufthansa, or Emirates or Virgin Atlantic. Those planes are MODERN, and comfortable. They don't charge you extra for having a USB charging port at your seat!! It's amazing. Really, EA is not the worst.

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cochranp11

Mr. Moore is an idiot. He takes Madden off the pc, ruins the Mass Effect finale, tries to force Origin down our throats and then compares his company to egological disasters. If ME3 was on Steam, I would have never installed Origin. PERIOD. I have never play BF3 because of Origin. I didn't get to play Dragon Age 2 because it was yanked from Steam. I will not buy another EA game if I have to use Origin. Until he understands these reasons, EA deserves to be the worst company in America...

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LatiosXT

While their PR sucks, are they really the "worst company in America" because some online poll says so?

How about a company that promoted a half dozen or more VPs, introduced more layers of management, and then decides to lay off 10% of its workforce? Oh, and they put out a voluntary separation program... So the number of people they would lay off in the end wouldn't require them to give everyone a severance package as required by law (if you lay off under a certain percentage, you're not required to give a severance).

Oh and sure EA lies to it's customers, so does this company in order to win proposals.

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tenchymuyo2

EA "WAS" a great company until they got too big and got big-headed along with it. They, along with Epyx were my favorites in the C-64 days. Nowadays, I'm of the wait and see approach to buying anything from them. And Always-On IS a DRM scheme. Period. I wish they could be forced to break into smaller companies like the Baby Bells, but I don't know enough about economic law to give it an argument.

EA - a pox on gaming. It didn't have to be this way.

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MychaelZ

I'd definitely call them the worst gaming software company in America - possibly the world. Worst company in America overall would have to be the government.

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RoccoMac

Mr. Moore is confused if he thinks people use Origin because they choose to. Just to be clear, If you're a BF3 player, Origin is a requirement, NFS player.. requirement, SimCity player... requirement.

If I could play these games via steam, Origin wouldn't be installed on my pc, period.

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gothliciouz

where do you go to rate these companies?

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limitbreaker

I don't know if it's the worst but it sure isn't my favorite. I really dislike having a limited amount of times I can install my payed for games, i refuse to Pay anything else to EA until they start changing their ways.

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Blackheart-1220

...and yet people still go "OMG I can't wait for Battlefield 4"

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OS-Wiz

Dear Mr. Peter Moore
While you're at it, stick Origin up your azz too.
Sincere Regrets,
Origin Hater!

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