Department of Justice Wants to Prosecute Online Liars

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MicahDeiter

Oh my god, you have got to be kidding me! People lie online all day and night and now they're going to make lying illegal? I'm sorry, but we're not under oath online, and thus, it can't be illegal. Why do lawmakers insist on taking more and more of our rights away daily? Really now. I met a girl on one of the popular dating sites who said he was athletic when she was more like average. Is she going to be prosecuted? What a joke this country has become!

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Ghost XFX

...But will they get rid of hackers too? I doubt it. therefore, they can shove it!

We don't need the Feds to butt in on On-line affairs. I an understand the issue of this woman berating the teenager with a fake account. That's idiocy at it's very worse. But some people online protect themselves in the same manner, so they don't have to deal with hacked accounts and other spam and phishing issues...

 

Instead of Online problems, they need to dump Eric Holder on his head for his part in "Fast and Furious". Deal with that first, then come back to the Net world.

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Ghok

Why doesn't this Myspace case not fall under some sort of harassment law? The woman purposely misled and hurt this girl who ended up killing herself as a result. What does it matter that it was on a computer? And if we do need a new law to stop this type of harassment, then make one specifically for that. The idea that we need a law that makes it illegal to violate TOS is MADNESS. It's hard to believe that anyone would even try that... it sure would benefit a lot of people with deep pockets (I'm just sayin').

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tornato7

I'm going tostart a site with a 500 page ToS after this, and one of the clauses will say 'by agreeing to this you hereby relinquish all of your worldly possesions to the site's owner.' This could work out.

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kiaghi7

This will -=NEVER=- fly, no matter how draconian this regime's "department of injustice" wants to be...

 

First, they could with such a preposterous law, penalize all the "G.I.R.L." (Guy In Real Life) players out there, of which there are many, and I will attest that I've made several female characters for online games, however I've never represented myself as a female.

 

Anyway, the ridiculousness of it exceeds all reasonable measure or ability to even remotely enforce.

 

 

More over, a Terms of Service AGREEMENT is precisely that, an agreement between two or more individuals and/or entities. It in no way is legally binding or punishable under the law because it is nothing more than its name suggests, an agreement. It is effectively a set of ground-rules agreed to by both sides, that so long as the end-user behaves they will have access to the provider's product and/or service.

The courts have long since weighed in on this, TOS agreements are not legally binding nor punishable under the law for failures ON EITHER PART to met the stipulations of the agreement.

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aarcane

That's absolute rubbish.  In our nation, we don't mix civil and criminal law.  TOS is closely related to (unenforcable) contract law, which is CIVIL.  Prosecution is used in CRIMINAL law cases.  That's like saying we should round up everyone who's ever given a coupon they didn't want to a friend and throw them in jail.  That's like saying we should take every contractor who's ever failed to finish on time and on budget and imprison them.  That's like saying everyone whose ever done something silly and gotten a warning notice on their door from management and lock them up.

EULAs and TOS' are a fluster-cuck when it comes to enforcability in the US.  Many of the terms in most TOS' would likely not hold up in court anyway, Especially those the DOJ wants to use to prosecute on.

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ShyLinuxGuy

If the DoJ is spending its time pursuing this bullsh!t (such as someone lying about how much they weigh, where they work, etc) then it's pretty obvious they have nothing better to do, and thus the employees participating in this do not need a job. There are always things that are considered "illegal", but then the courts (most, anyway) look down on *really* petty offenses. If someone abuses the ToS to say, gather information off of a social network site en masse, then yes, it's something the DoJ may want to look into. But if someone is fibbing on Facebook, and they make a big deal about it, then it's time to add more people to the unemployment statistic =P

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Bad Kharma

Jumping from a civil case to a criminal one is a great stretch of the imagination and of the law. Does this mean that every celebrity who operates under a stage name is also a target for prosecution?

 

I do use usernames like Bad Kharma, not because I am afraid of what I say, but because idiots like Anonymous and their friends are petty individuals and prefer to remain as anomyous as I can rather than make it easier for them to find me or more importantly, my computer.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

hey anonymouse hey boy i got some thing for you to hack!

 

this law really pisses me off i use lots of fake names online, why? because i dont want them to know who i am and look at sony steam and all that stuff people hack it get it and id rather Mr johncockerdoodle on there insteed of my name.... DOJ this is the internet your not going to win

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tkid124

 

At times laws do need to be changed, there have been horrendous crimes that have taken place, and because there was no law against it, the perpetrator was either convicted of a much lesser crime or was set free. Do states need anti-bulling laws, yes. Should we have laws that make elicit or unauthorized access illegal? Yes. Should the courts have a say in violations of ToS? Only in civil court, or criminal court but only for violating a government website's ToS.

The idea that online activity is somehow different than face to face and needs the DoJ to interfere with private business when they would never prosecute for a contract violation that was done face to face for the same violation is beyond silly.

The DoJ will of course promise proprietorial discretion. Then again, I think congress should take some discretion on this for them, by insuring that they don't have the right to file charges for just any ToS violations, only those relating to elicit or unauthorized access to a server, data, software, etc.

 

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Nimrod

People, if this isnt TYRANNY than nothing is. Oops, i might be breaking the MPC ToS and that is now seems to be LAW.

 

Fuck the DOJ

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zNelson24

I think they're going about this the wrong way. Instead of prosecuting someone for violating a ToS, how about they prosecute the woman for, as this article has put it, "created a fake MySpace account and then verbally berated a 13-year-old girl, a girl who committed suicide as a result."

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firefox91

So if I root my new Android phone, Verizon will have me sent to jail. Great. I can't wait until Bubba asks me what I am in the tank for.

"Well, I rooted my phone"

"Well, I'm going to root your ass boy! Now come here!"

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EducationalGeek

Maybe the DOJ should go after these companies ala Facebook for screwing with people's information...

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AntonioGarrison

Won't happen.  You sign a ToS, giving them the OK to use that information.  People willingly give it away.

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EducationalGeek

Not necessarily, Facebook uses data in ways that are outside the TOS they have.  So do alot of other companies...

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oldobamaliar

democrats will be the death of this free nation. obama is the pied piper of destruction. when you wake up one day soon and are no longer allowed think or speak your own mind and the liberal "utopia" is finally achieved then will you fucking democrats be happy? democrats=comminust traitors

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Ghok

I think someone needs to go look up the word "Liberal" in the dictionary. It's pretty close to "Liberty", just in case you were wondering.

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firefox91

Oh stop with the political ranting. Try having a free-thinking and INDEPENDENT mind for once. All that swill that Fox News is feeding you is rotting your brain. Democrat or Republican, they are all still crooks.

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biggiebob12345

I'm an independent and I've indpendetly decided that while Republicans occassianlly do some things wrong, Democrats uniformly do everything wrong.  Lesser of two evils....I'd vote libertarian if it would matter.

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Scatter

You're right, we should all be able to lie freely like most Republicans do. 

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NineteenEleven

i cant wait to see EA's new laws... i mean TOS. 

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Keith E. Whisman

So the only liars in this country will be those that run the government. The politicians will never be prosecuted for lying but damn, you better not violate the TOS that MS Typed up. 

Someone put a pink slip on Eric Holder's desk please. This dude needs to be fired ASAP. Eric Holder is the United States Attorney General and head of the Dept of Justice or DOJ (and not the Justice League.)

But anyhow, how in the hell can they think this is a good idea? These are fucking democrats that want to put the companies in charge of the government. If this becomes law then the companies will pretty much run the country, this is the exact argument that my liberal friends give me about what Republicans want to do but its democrats that are doing it.  

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biggiebob12345

Notice how prior to this administration there was no significant headlines for them?  Now they're doing something stupid on a weekly basis.  All part of the democrat's plan to power grab.

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Blues22475

Once again, this is our government trying to regulate something it clearly does not understand. Now when I create a alias online it's to protect my identity (to some extent). Now I have to put my actual name out there on the net because the DoJ?

Imo, they're trying to regulate something, and they fail every time they create some kind of "regulation" because it always contradicts something else.

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routine

Nice... so now companies write laws in the form of ToS.

And may I remind all you libtards out there, this is a democratic administration doing this.

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compro01

And the republicans will be cheering it on in a show of "bipartisan solidarity".

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routine

Oh.. I have the same contempt for the republicans.... I just grow tired of the liberal hipocracy.

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Brad Chacos

That's crap. TOS violations should be between the user and the company alone, anyways.

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LatiosXT

I think there's something wrong when the people who supposedly uphold the law change it so they can prosecute people.

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rawrnomnom

this was probably all spearheaded by a politician who was sleeping around, and one time he used an online dating site to meet with someone described as "athletic" who ended up weighing 300 lbs... 

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rawrnomnom

Ummm.... how bout you idiots stop screwing with the internet, take a pay cut, and actually fix something thats broken. The stupidity of political figures never ceases to amaze me...

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Nimrod

Now now, im sure they WILL be willing to take a pay cut! Right before they vote them selvs a raise!

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