Demand for Windows 8 “Not that Good,” Asus Says

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fcorona

In every article I have read regarding upgrading, the comments never seem to address this question: If you have a non-touch system be it either desktop or laptop are there any real benefits to using Windows 8 over Windows 7? I personally would only upgrade if I were getting a touch screen or if the upgrade was free of charge.

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MarioJP

I think windows 8 is not going to flop, but could take awhile for most to get used to. But overall. All the complaints i hear from people is to laugh at. I been the first early adopter to windows 8 from day one. I can say that, while it is a change. Windows 8 is impressive than 7 in some other ways.

I've noticed that this new OS is very optimized, such as the new task Manager.

Windows 8 is improved from 7. I do like the apps in windows 8. Some of these Apps are very useful too. With that said. For those that wants to hang on to 7, then do not upgrade. Simple as that.

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TrollBot5000

You ever notice that when there is a win8 article the majority of people commenting voice their disdain for the OS but theres always a few that praise it's glories like its' the best OS ever to be released. I swear the latter are microsoft employee plants. Only a moron would think windows 8 is a viable computing choice and certainly the crowd that maxpc draws aren't jumping off the windows 7/linux/mac ship for windows 8.

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Teh_tourist

Or maybe the maxpc readers are fools who blindly take the opinions of maxpc editors as gospel? Maybe maxpc readers used the developer build a year before the OS was released and decided it was crap based on beta software? It doesn't really matter what your reason is, Windows 8 is objectively better than Windows 7. Doesn't mean you have to sue it, but you can't call it crap.

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Cregan89

I praise Windows 8, and I am not a Microsoft employee.

I rarely used the Start Button because all of my frequently used applications are pinned to my taskbar. The few times I did use the Start Button were to launch rarely used applications through the search feature, which still works exactly the same in Windows 8 but is faster and more accurate. The Metro interface also separates my work flow on the Desktop interface from my play in the Metro interface. Performance is noticeably improved. Battery life better. Live Tiles and notifications are a workflow Godsend.

For me, Windows 8 is much more productive and a significant upgrade from Windows 7.

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steven4570

but wouldnt it be a much better idea to have the tile UI an option if there is no touch screen involved? I mean really, it makes no sense if there is no touchscreen on the computer nor was it designed for it. Isn't that part of the reason Microsoft failed at their first attempt at tablet pcs?

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Granite

As has been said...you have the option.

But for me, Win8 is perfect...because I have two monitors.

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Cregan89

It is an option, it's always just one click away to switch between the Tile UI and the Desktop UI. And I don't have a touch screen notebook, but I use the Tile UI with my mouse and keyboard just fine.

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steven4570

Mouse and keyboard don't work well with it, its not designed nor optimized for it and it feels clunky. And i was referring to an option to not see it at all(other than installing start8)

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kuebel33

I upgraded my desktop to Windows 8 and I freaking love it. It's mind blowing to see all the complaints. Did these people even spend time using Windows 8? Granted, I played with it during pre-release on a VM for a while so I was more familiar with it, but it's so fast and smooth. The live tiles are awesome once you customize them and it just works better so far. I also feel like they improved remote desktop functionality as it even cooks while I'm connected remotely.

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big_montana

The main reason for the so called lackluster sales figures of Win 8 is that stores have an inventory glut of Windows 7 machines. When Windows 7 hit the market it did not face that problem with the retail market place having a glut of unsold Vista computers as retail did not but into either. Retail will, and is, discounting their Win 7 machines to move them out of inventory before you see any movement on Win 8 computers. The sales numbers for Win 8 are more than likely for upgrades as retail outlets such as MicroCenter are selling the physical media for $38, of which I purchased two myself. There are still no compelling Windows 8 desktops, laptops or tablets on the market that make me go "I got to have that!" as I can wait until next year to see how the market shakes out before deciding to, or if, I want to replace my desktop and non-touch laptop with a touch laptop or tablet or both. This is the message that Asus' CEO should be getting, build a better product, and deliver it on time, and we will buy it, otherwise shut up about it.

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maxeeemum

This is no surprise to me!

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Cregan89

This is unbelievable! What the hell do they expect!?

Sounds to me like MS isn't having too hard of a time selling Windows 8 licences themselves, but nobody is impressed with the hardware being built around Windows 8.

There's literally not one single interesting Windows 8 device even available for purchase right now (in Canada at least). The only Windows 8 devices available right now are Windows RT devices, which are slightly underpowered at this point until the next generation of ARM SOCs are released and are critically restricted by the currently limited number of Windows 8 apps. Or there's Clovertrail devices which have even worse performance than the Windows RT devices. Or there's crappy notebooks with touchscreen displays, which makes no ergonomic sense.

The small handful of devices that are even remotely interesting: MS Surface Pro, ASUS Taichi, ASUS Transformer Book, Dell XPS 12; Are all either unavailable for purchase, have horrible reviews generally resulting from the same single issue that has plagued PCs forever (horrible design and engineering), poor specs in key areas like display quality, display resolution, GPU performance, battery life, and weight, and worst of all, even with all of these major downfalls, these devices are all still priced wayyyyyy out of contention!

I'm a big Windows 8 fan, and I personally applaud the direction Microsoft has chosen for the future of Windows. But I have not purchased a new Windows 8 device and don't plan on it at any point in the future in respect to the current marketplace offering. And I wouldn't recommend to ANYONE right now to purchase a new PC as the current market offering is uncreative, very poorly engineered, and massively overpriced!

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Are you saying that people were more impressed with the hardware that was being built around Windows 7 than Windows 8?

I think your assumptions on the reasons why Windows 8 PC sales are lackluster are completely off base. People are much more fickle than you think.

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Cregan89

Windows 7 came at a different time to a different market. Windows 7 was the peak of the high powered hardware and mouse/keyboard interface era. Windows 7 basically only had Apple's OS X to compete with. All Windows 7 devices were basically the exact same thing, either desktop or notebook with varying internal components, even the cheapest of which are capable of performing everything that 99% of consumers want from their PCs (web browsing, social networking, looking/organizing/editing photos, listening to music, and watching videos). The market is now flooded with Windows 7 era PCs, and for the majority of consumers there is no reason to buy a new Windows 7 PC because their 5 year old PC is still fully capable of doing everything they want it to do.

Then came the mobile revolution. Windows 7 PC sales were quickly stagnating while people turned to smartphones and tablets which were quickly becoming capable of all of the same tasks as PCs, but in smaller and lighter packages, with simpler interfaces, cost less money, and could be carried with you and used on the go. That's why MS developed Windows 8, to compete with this new mobile media consumption market shift. The software, Windows 8, brings some interesting and good ideas to the table, but the hardware to capitalize on their ideas is completely non-existent!

Windows 7 was all about the same old PC form factors just with more power under the hood. This worked for the first couple of years, but the market has changed and Windows 7 PC sales stagnated. Windows 8 is all about empowering creative new PC form factors. These creative new PC form factors have simply yet to materialize.

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imagonex

Today's OS and hardware ecosystem has changed. Had Windows8 been released in a period where no other type of PC existed other than towers and desktops, it would be selling at a faster rate. Today's OS ecosystem isn't the same it was 10 years ago.
In the long run, it's the hardware & OS ecosystem that will win. For example, if Win8 is integrated into the future Xbox system, Microsoft can create a product line similar in philosophy to the iPod, iPad and iPhone line. They'll be able to offer different levels of performance in Xbox hardware yet keep the Window8 landscape and capture their core audience into their locked marketing, hardware and all. They choke STEAM out of business, capture the gaming sector to themselves and can follow the same route with other competitors to win their sectors.
It's all about money in the end, whether the GUI is on a PC, console, mega-console, etc. As long as they get your money.

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TommM

Kinda funny - every time there's an MS publicity "we're selling tons of Win8," article, 2 or 3 third-party "it ain't selling so well" articles show up right on the heels.

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Pyrophorics05

This is a shame. As a quick adopter, I was shocked at how quick and well put together the OS actually is. Granted, I resisted the metro UI at first, I kind of enjoy it now ... something different.

Between keyboard shortcuts and left clicking the corner window for options, I am perfectly happy with the new OS.

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Ghost XFX

Stores are still selling W7 for $30 more than W8.....
Hello? MS better call Bill Gates for some advice before it's too late.

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TinyVK

ASUS has announced a number of products that would be ideal for Win8 but frankly no one "has been particularly impressed" with their ability to deliver them: Taichi, Transformer Book, where are they? ASUS delivery is very unimpressive!

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kitsunekaji

As said before, I think Win8 would have had a better launch and been more attractive if you had more choices.
Examples would be:
Desktop or Metro/Modern UI?
Traditional Input Mode or Touch-screen Enhanced Mode?

I am sure you could think of more, but these are just the start of what seems to be irking people, and keeping some (like me) away. I also ask myself, "what will I gain by switching to WIn8?" Faster boot times is nice, but not enough of an incentive.

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Granite

I think Asus will see an increase in demand as soon as they release the machines, that they've announced, that people want.

When they finally come out with the Transformer Book, their demand will instantly increase by at least one.

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ilfipian

Touch does not integrate well with keyboard and mouse. It just adds another motion that does not yet add real functionality. It poses problems with screen distance from the user, adds ergonomic issues.

Plus it gunks up your productivity screen so you're cleaning all the time.

Touch productivity hasn't arrived yet. Touch/gesture and voice have potential, but that's not a system that will play well in cube farms or some of the newer open design offices. Too much shared space and other ambient noise and motion.

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REDUXo01

@M$: Poor guy, poor bastard...

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