Dell Gives up on Android, Doubles Down on Windows 8

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eastbayrae

To bad they stopped making WP devices. Their's was one of the few that had a physical keyboard, now there are none.

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whr4usa

I'm really glad when Dell stops making soemthing, never seen a quality product form them in years! haha

that said I, too, look forward to Windows Phone 8 devices next year with physical keyboards or hardware keypads as I've gotten use to my webOS phone; I'll miss it when my dad & I buy eachother WP8 devices for xmas++newyears in a week or so but not a dealbreaker for me (obviously)

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Shadai

This isn't anything like HP doubling down on WebOS is it? Cause that ended well.

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Happy

I'm gonna go ahead and sound the death knell for Dell.

I mean, come on. Do they really think they will be able to win by embracing an operating system that costs money and will either eat into their profits or require them to raise the price of the product so as to pass the cost along to the customer (thereby making their product less attractive to the buyer)?

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whr4usa

you're incorrectly mis assuming several things...

- that Dell doesn't get massive discounts beyond most OEMs around for being 1 of the largest and most-globally-well-connected

- that Android is actually free (it is not...ask HTC or even SamSung!)

- that Dell actually puts any $ into hardware (lol!)

- that Android actually has a serious commercial future (until it actually becomes just another linux distro instead of a fragmented and poorly supported mess)

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HeartBurnKid

Right... the most popular smartphone OS in the world, and the second most popular and fastest growing tablet OS in the world, doesn't have a serious commercial future. Pull the other one, it has bells on.

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whr4usa

read my response to mouse from earlier below

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Granite

I think their point is that THEY don't have a serious commercial future with Android.

The Android hardware market is saturated and Dell doesn't do software. Not much else left for them.

Win8, now...the hardware market is wide open. They've made a good choice. Maybe we'll see some Win8 machines at reasonable prices...finally.

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whr4usa

both + And

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dgrmouse

@whr: Are you arguing that Android isn't free because these companies have decided to settle lawsuits with Apple and Microsoft?

I don't think that Dell is going to go under tomorrow, and I don't agree that Windows and other operating systems have no value, but nor do I think that your argument about Android not having a serious commercial future is sensible. Android itself may not be a huge money-maker, but it certainly enables a lot of devices to make tremendous amounts of money. It does this now, and I don't see any indication that this will change.

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whr4usa

yes, lawsuits and licensing agreements are part of to what I was referring but higher developement and support costs for open-source, especially non-standard projects like android, tend to be completely ignored by most everybody; even crApple is much more 'standardized' than Android from a developement and hardware platforms perspective because they use commodity, standard components (albeit bastardized to the point of complete incompatibility with those standards) that have are proven to have great reliability while maintaining an mostly-static APIset and each software release being mostly a superset of the last

Android on the other hand has no driver model to speak of (Macintosh doesn't really either but developers and the actual manufacturers of their devices never see this because Apple "takes care of it") and the developement platform and its APIset are vey inconsistent even between minor version updates, that's ignoring the nonexistent update and support policies by manufacturers and all of the other legal, licensing, fragmentation, support, driver/firmware and warranty issues faced by the Android platform as a whole; it lso completely ignores Android being scarily similar to the NT5 codebase in terms of giving developers anything they want wuithout properly leveraging existing standards, fully inbuilding security or optimizing across available hardware

...the cost of an heavily discounted royalty OEM volume license(s) for Microsoft Windows ends up being an insignificantly small price to pay compared to the R&D costs and eventual support costs of an Android, non-corporate-backed linux distro etc.

that's why Microsoft, Apple, Red Hat, Intel, Oracle & IBM (roughly in that order) will continue to control the developer and hardware markets, with occassional "faddy interruptions" from Canonical, Google and many others...though I *can* "see the day" where Android, Chromium and ChromeOS codebases are merged into Google's own multi-architecture linux distro using standard kernel and interfaces - then Msft + Appl + RHt will have a real challenge

you actually restated and proved my point I apparrently made very poorly (sorry!) unitentionally mouse!

DEVICES with Android make $, the 'platform' doesn't! (though admittedly Google Play and Amazon Store are doing quite well for now...)

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DR_JDUBZ

android may be the best mobile platform but as an os in general, its garbage. Dell as a computer company is garbage. As for the streak 5 and 7, both are excellent devices for under 200$. When I can buy a dell streak unlocked for 150$, with its 5inch screen and my 15$ a month plan it makes the s3/note2 worth waiting a while for. Internal and sd card storage, excellent camera and flash. dell streak 7 is really good too, as it has sd card storage and dual core cpu. dell streak 5 is officially at gingerbread and 7 at 2.2. pixel density for what I use them for is addequite. and as jelly bean has no flash, nor usb hosting, I dont want to upgrade to the new release or device.

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lordfirefox

The Galaxy SIII is dual-core, has mini-SDHC card storage (up to 32GB). And a mini USB port. It also has a flash for the camera. And it supports HTML5 making Adobe Flash obsolete.

Oh and my OS on my Galaxy SIII is Jellybean too.

I know you made a bad purchase but please stop spreading falsehoods to justify it.

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scihacker

By the way they never updated the ROM on my Streak phone, I would say they gave up on Android before they ever started!

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VanDaMan

well considering their lack of development for android......They might as well drop it completely. My roommate had one of their dell streak phones.... hands down the worst "newer" model android phone I ever saw. The stock rom on that thing sucked bigtime and they never updated it beyond either 2.1 or 2.2

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DR_JDUBZ

2.3 actually!!!!

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Bingzhong

I question is why didn't they run on the Windows OS to begin with. I mean, they are a PC company. But given, Asus' phones run on Android as well.

Either way, I'm awaiting results. Always good to see something new.

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whr4usa

actually they've been specifically stating for years now that "we are not a pc company"

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Engelsstaub

...and with that we prepare for the inevitable avalanche of rage-posts mostly from the same screen-names. Kick back and enjoy... ;)

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jaseplase

please just stop posting engeldouche

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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