Crytek: “PC Is Easily A Generation Ahead of Consoles Right Now”

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makius

PC all the way! 

I could list all the reasons why but I think everyone knows already. 

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johnnyathm1

Admins...get off your fat asses and get a solution to this SPAM problem that you have had for well over half a year. No excuse what so ever. MPC>>>>Make them do it...I cant believe that a tech magazine like this allows this to happen on their site....So...YOU SUCK TOO!!! Do something...WOW!!!!!!

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Baer

I retired my last console a few years back. We still have a Wii hooked up for the young kids to play with but they all want to play the new P C games here now, mainly for the WOW factor. I believe that the present generation of consoles has peaked and is in decline. After all, they were not that advanced hardware wise when they were new and that was...?????

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guitar4468

I am a gamer and play games on all platforms.  From the handhelds, consoles, to pc gaming.  Yes pc gaming my advance quicker, but good games are good games no matter what.  I like games period and will get whatever I need to play them.  I like how PC's are more open and have the ability to upgrade to take advantage of the new graphics engines developers create.  The only issue I have is the time it takes to get into a game.  In my experience,  games on Pc are rarely out of the box friendly.  I have to tweak the games in order for them to run as smooth as I like.   Whether its getting a new patch, downloading new drivers, tweaking config files, messing around with the in game graphics settings to make the game run as smooth as possible.  Not to mention sometimes games run better on certain cards than others.  Lets just say there is more headaches in order to game on pc.  

 

With that said, pc lacks many of the genre's in games that I like.  If they had them, I might have thought twice about getting the consoles.  

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themohawkadmin

My keyboard and mouse are like, 50 generations ahead of any console controller lol.  

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makius

Hehe thank you for that sir. One of the few times I can write lol and actually mean it. +1

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vistageek

You just made my day! +1

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nealtse

Hell, consoles were barely on par with middle of the road pc tech when they were NEW, the past few years has only added to the divide.

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sammy_sam

Why don't the console makers just have the hardware more pc-like? Imagine if you could upgrade certain pieces like the graphics card. The console might stay a little more cutting edge. Newer games would require a beefier card for the best visuals but could still be played with older cards at lower details. Just add an easy acces slot so nobody has to crack open the console (and void any warranties). Kind of like what the PS3 did for the hard drive.

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reutnes

I don't really care for consoles for exactly one reason: the controllers.  The mouse and keyboard is a far superior form of input, and with consoles basically being specialized computers I can't understand why they push us onto a controller.  I own a 360 because it was a gift, and even then I only play the major shooters on it because I can play those with my non-PC real-life friends.

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Mighty BOB!

Hear hear.  I would actually consider getting a console if it weren't for the damn controllers.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

And Crysis is still a generation or two ahead of the PC. Honestly, when will a mid-range system get 100 fps running that game at a decent resolution? LOL.

I think it's nice that a developer is saying all these nice things about the PC, but Microsoft really wants PC gaming dead (they want the XBox to dominate gaming), and I think they're gonna get what they want.

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QUINTIX256

On the POS3, the PowerPC core has been maxed out. As for the SPU's the PowerPC core has to babysit, well there is only so much that can be done with those, unless they are being used as an extension of the vertex shaders on the GPU.

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Danthrax66

No the real issue is that people don;t know how to program effectively for multicore use. Hell a majority of CS majors are in a Java based ciriculum. The problem is we aren't teaching the right kind of coding. And the PS3 is amazing, way more powerful than the 360...

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Cregan89

Not that it matters, (if anybody claims they can notice a difference in graphics between a game on the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3, unless they're side by side or the game wasn't developed properly for one of the consoles, they are full of shit), but the GPU in the Xbox 360 is actually slightly more powerful than the GPU in the Playstation 3. 

 

Just thought you might find that interesting as it seems everybody that I talk to has the misconception that the Playstation 3 has better graphics than the Xbox 360. To the average human perception both consoles have virtually identical graphics. But with some detailed benchmarking, the Xbox 360 edges out the Playstation 3 graphics 9 times out of 10. Most multi-platform games run in a slightly lower resolution and with slightly lower frame rates on the Playstation 3. It's been proven time and time again: GTA IV, Assassin's Creed, and even COD: Black Ops.

 

This link gives a detailed comparison of the new COD between the two consoles:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff

Xbox 360: 1040x608      Playstation 3: 960x544 (And still worse frame rates than the 360)

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Rogue74

I'm kind of okay with this...for now. I'm a person who would usually replace my PC every couple of years and build it with the best parts available. With the economy now I haven't been able to build a new PC for like 3 years now. I got a little boost when BFG (R.I.P.) replaced my two 8800GTX cards with shiny new GTX285 cards. I can still run pretty much anything and have only noticed some slow down at high specs just recently.

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triclops41

consoles arent killing game development, they are slowing it down.  but ask game devs, and they tell you this is a good thing.  this is what will (hopefully) prevent a gaming crash due to the exponential inflation of game budgets.

and it is more accurate to say that the fastest pc is 3 generations ahead of the consoles.  ps3 and 360 are about equiv to a radeon 4650 or nvidia gt 220.

on steam, the most common gpu series is the nvidia 8800.  those are under $100 and kill the video capabilities of either hd console.

 

but all of us with great pcs really need to wait for the next console gen to come out.  it will be dx11, and then pcs will be able to really stretch their legs.  right now games are dx 9.5, so pretty much all a pc game can do is jack up the resolution, aa, and af.

 

it kinda sucks, but that is the way it goes and these are the constraints that game development place on game devs.  its not a conspiracy, its just reality.

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I Jedi

There is one big advantage, in my opinion, that the PC has over the console system: community development. While some might argue that you can create games for the Xbox Arcade, it isn't the same as compared to the scope that a community of enthusiastic gamers/designers to create, distribute, and release free/paid games, which utilize a PC's capabilities. We have seen time and time again developer after developer leave for the console platform, and it continually hurts the PC gaming image, rather we admit it or not. I think it is time for more open-sourced gaming to come about, to support the PC Gaming Alliance, and encourage Nvidia, ATI, and Microsoft to help promote the PC's image as a true and tride way of gaming. We have to break off from these developers, who promise a lot, and are always short on result, or just plain pickup and leave the PC platform. Does anyone think that there could be a lot of potential for PC gaming, if this were to take off?

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QuadraQ

I agree that the xbox 360 is basically at it's technilogical peak now - in terms of how much developers can squeeze out of it. I don't think that's true of the PS3. Since the xbox 360 is the leading console most game engines are designed to work on both, largely limiting them to the lowest common denominator: the xbox 360. The PS3 still has more power to tap. Hopefully some developers will step up to take it on.

Another limiting factor is resolution. Most people seem very content with 1080p resolution both on their TV's and on their computer monitors. Obviously more realistic graphics are still possible even at that resolution, but gone are the days when each generation of PC graphics card was needed to power your new large CRT or LCD monitor. (And yes I know there are always the enthuisiasts who like to game with 30-inch displays, and/or multiple monitors - but they are in the minority.)

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Kill Em All

What needs to be realized is that console gamers aren't all that bright when it comes to computers. Thats why they go with the simplicity of a console. The PC and gaming industry needs to work together to make it easier for people to easily start LAN matches. Some games, it involves so much work to start a LAN party with a couple friends on the PC, such as L4D. Every household owns a PC or laptop, and then they spend extra money on a console. A decent PC for gaming is not hard to get and can be pretty cheap.

But we also have to remember fellow PC gamers, do we really want all the xbox 8 year olds in our PC games spamming the mic... lets think of the positives here.

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I Jedi

The problem with the PC platform is that it's an enthusiast platform. If you want a decent rig, you have to spend AROUND $600 dollars, and even then you're not getting top-notch. With the console platform, the most expensive console is a little under $600. In truth, console gamers have it better for several reasons. First, console gamers do not need to worry about upgrading their hardware to play the next game for their platform. Two, compatibility is not an issue, as all games going to a platform will work on that platform, and thus everyone's console on that platform. Lastly, it's cost effective to choose a console system over a PC system. The PC platform, again, is an enthusastic platform because it cost money, takes time to learn basic concepts, such as LAN use, and hardware is constantly going out of date while games just keep getting better and better graphics/physics wise.

Do I think this hurts the PC platform, yes. Do I think it is what's causing so many developers to leave the console platform, no. The reason why the PC platform is SUPPOSEDLY not working is because of piracy. Face it, what company wants to create games for a platform, in which their games are constantly being taken without being paid for? While if piracy is a real threat to developers on the PC remains a big debate amongst the community, but you can be assured that it is the main reason why many developers are calling it quits on the PC and moving to the console systems.

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Neufeldt2002

Your Minecraft PC link is broken.

I only hope that developers will take advantage of our hardware before the next gen consoles are out. (Probably not, but I can hope)

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gothliciouz

console sucks, pc is the future... when will people realize this?

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zodi

Consoles will be around for a long time.  However developers are killing the PC marketshare.  Consoles are always sold at a loss, its the economic model they are based on.  Until enough games are sold and the console manufacturers re-coup there console losses they will not begin the next product cycle.  This stagnates the gaming industry as a whole.  Solution, change the economic model.  Sell an xbox or PS3 for the price it actually costs.  Can't do that we lose market share because people will go buy a PC for the same money or a little more.

 

What the industry needs is a wave of killer games for the PC only and developers to hold to there guns.  You want it for the xbox or the ps 3 sorry we have to tone down the graphics and pull some content out.

The PC industry has to change its mentality as a whole as well.  Why are we relegating people to sit in a tiny hole with a dimly lit 24" monitor.   Change the view of the consumer so they KNOW they can hook there PC up to a TV and make an xbox shudder with the graphical prowess of the PC.  Make it easy make it simple.   Develop some FAD creation stuff like the PC version of the Kinect.  And work as a team full of competitors.  Because your getting spanked by a competitive industry they fail to recognize as a competitor.

One of the biggest reasons I here people by a console is so they sit on there couch/chair and jam a game with there friends.  Can you do the same with a PC sure.  Does society know you can, absolutely not!

 

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Ghok

Isn't this the same company that made those outrageous PC piracy claims?

The fact is people like consoles because they're easy to use and you don't have to upgrade them. This is becoming more and more true as the differences between TVs and computers are shrinking.

I remember before the first X-Box hit, the current consoles were very behind PCs, and it was a really good time for PC gaming. Interesting to see if that might happen again. We're a niche market, sure, but we're still a market where money can be made, and that goes even more so now that we're being neglected.

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Mighty BOB!

More like 2 generations ahead.  Consoles are all DX9.

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Zoomer

Consoles need to become more open. They're actually PCs under their smaller, sleeker exteriors, and thus could be built to better specifications, and made to be upgradable. There just needs to be a hardware and software standard better suited for their lower power. Until such a day comes, I'm happy on my PC. It can run whatever I want, and though it cost almost ten times what an xbox 360 costs now, I'm happy with it, because it can do so much more, and offers so much more control than the current consoles EVER will....though I will admit that my sister likes the xbox for it's ease of use. 

Of course, you may as well start talking apple vs. pc if you really want to go there....

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Vegan

It's been attempted before, with things like the N64 Memory Pack. When you introduce something like that, developers still have to make games with the lowest common denominator in mind.

Look at Wii Motion Plus; how many games out there use it? Not a whole lot. Making Wii Motion Plus the new standard (including it with all new Wiis) won't help. It's too late.

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Mighty BOB!

It would be nice, but developers would probably throw a huge hissy fit.  They've gotten used to knowing exactly what they can get away with on consoles because every system has the exact same specs (well, the most important ones like GPU and RAM; it doesn't matter if the HDD is different).  They don't need to worry about different hardware combinations or conflicts, or how to fit everything into a smaller amount of RAM if one system has more than another (well okay they do technically since the current gen of consoles have a pathetic RAM.)  This could be alleviated by only having a handful of configs for a system.

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gamefanatic26

Yes consoles are slowing the evolution of video games but the reason people buy console's is because there cheaper, they may not have the know how to work video games on a PC or there obsessive console fanboys who wont hear a word about playing on the PC because there to damn stubborn. Most of my friends play console most think the PC sucks to play games on and theres no way to get them to believe otherwise. Im a PC gamer 100% im just stating some of the stuff I have heard. 

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whyyes123

They *need* to make more powerful consoles then. I love my 360, and I think it rivals the PC, but apparently it doesn't. PC developers need to realized a $300 360 is much more economical then making a game that requires a $1200+ PC, that will need to be upgraded in a year.

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Mighty BOB!

Sorry, this argument is old and tired.  Try again.

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nmanguy

I put a cheapass 4850, a slow(er) Core 2 Duo, and 4 gigs of ram, as well as the rest of the stuff needed to boot up, and it's served me well for over 2 years, and still runs games on high. Those cost nowhere near $1200, and I have no intention of upgrading any time soon.

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Marsel

Agreed.

Radeon 5770 ($110 after rebate, plays any game on high or medium)

AMD Phenom II x2 560 $99 (microcenter's deal for the past year- free AMD mobo with cpu. Can be unlocked to x4 easily)

Mobo (Free, see above)

1TB HD 7200rpm - Overkill, $60, stores like 5000 games

DVD drive $20

Cheap case w/ psu - $40

4gb ddr3 stick -$50

Total: $380, Plays any game on high and can do alot of other shit. Way better graphics then a 360. A comparable xbox is $300, with an only 250gb hd. Plus, you can convince your parents to buy you one "for school".

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whyyes123

Seriously? Damn,, I guess you don't have to go with Alienware or something..

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CleverBullet

Really?

A $1200 shouldn't need to be upgraded in a year, with the parts you can get nowadays, they last for much longer than that.

My current build has lasted me just over 3 years with a total cost of $1000.

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whyyes123

I know someone who got an on sale $1700 PC. It's great now, but you can't say new video cards, etc won't come out in the next two years. Consoles NEVER have to be upgraded parts wise.

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makius

Your not getting the point... Sure there will be a ton of great new stuff to upgrade a PC with in the next few years, but the point is YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I think a lot of console only gamers get confused and think that just because some new hardware comes out for the PC you have to buy it in order to play new games, but that's rarely the case. However, if I feel like upgrading my video card, RAM, w/e guess what... I CAN, and I love having that option. 

Now let's say I buy a new console and in a few years that same new technology comes out but now I'm stuck with an out dated console without even having the option to upgrade if I choose. I mean don't get me wrong, consoles definitely have their merrits, but don't try to say that the PC's ability to be upgraded is a bad thing. Plus the only reason consoles "never have to be upgraded" is because they CAN'T be upgraded. 

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bingojubes

new parts come out all the time, but upgrading is way easier than buying an entire new console. The only reason i haven't switched to a new 360 was because over half my games didn't get backwards supported like Microsoft had originally let on. From what i noticed, the transition from the first XBOX to the 360 only supported platinum titles and the Halo games, aside from a few others. At least with a PC thats been upgraded, you can play all of your old games, probably even better than before.

So it may take some new driver updates or a new video card to play games, but it's i think better to buy a 200+$ upgrade than to buy an entirely NEW console for the same price (or more).

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Havok

Hell, I still fire up X-Wing or TIE Fighter on my newest rig every now and then. Let's see a PS3 do that. 

"Our CELL processor is so advanced with the magic of Blu-Ray!"

"Can I still play my old games without buying them again over your network?"

"....no, but Our CELL processor-"

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whyyes123

I love old games in general. Now this is just a few people, but it seems most PC players think graphics = quality and refuse to play older games. "I didn't buy this PC to play old games" etc, etc. Console gamers are usually more level headed, I still play my older consoles.

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MrPC2010

It's about time they admit it, consoles are stopping the video game evolution because most large game company still prefer to focus on consoles.

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