Company of Heroes Dev: High Specs Lead to Piracy, But PC Gaming's "Death" Laughable

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pagen64

i hate it when i hear or read that "PC gaming is dead or dying" there are 11 million plus WOW players and that game can only run on a PC, Add that to the dozens of other MMO's. PC gaming as in FPS may not be big but as long as MMO's are around we need the PC.

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Khaled

Others believe that WOW killed PC gaming ... that's not right .. I didn't buy this 9800gtx for WoW ... although WoW sure looks nice at max everything settings ;)

 

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b_boy_69_00

I have one word that would end a lot of pirating, get ready for it, "DEMO".  Its a novel idea.  Let the consumer try before they buy.  I have to admit to pirating a few of the newest games, just to make sure I can run them and they are worth it.  But the good ones are now in my collection.  I must also admit that I have a few games that I pirated and were so good that I bought the disk but never even took it out of the box.  I wouldn't have to worry about most of these hassels if they would just release a demo either before or with the game.  Don't release it 3 months after the game is out, something else will be out by then and overshadow your demo for an "old" game.

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BaggerX

It's tough for someone to know how well a demo represents the full game.  Of course the demo gets extra polish and attention because it's supposed to sell the game.  In some cases it's a level or map that may not even be in the full game, designed to show the game in the best light possible.  Will the performance of the demo reflect the full game?  Who knows.  Would I trust the dev to make sure that it represents the full game?  Hell no. 

Some devs, like Blizzard, always make sure that their games run well on average hardware and are released in a polished and generally bug-free state.  They are the exceptions though, and PC gamers know that they can't trust most devs to deliver on their promises.  Only the devs themselves can change that perception.

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b3ar

I tried to dl Mass Effect and ended up installing a nasty Trojan and some sort of fake antivirus scanner that disabled my primary one. Whoops, that'll learn me.

My motivation for doing so, at the time, was what Tim Holman was stating: to see if it would run on my system, and if I liked it enough to buy it.

I think Holman missed a key point that hurts the PC gaming biz, though, and that's the overhype of framerates and expensive CPU/motherboard combos. My rig is older (Opty 165 on an A8N mobo with a modest overclock), my GPU is somewhat newer (8800GTS 320MB), but I'm still able to play Fallout 3 to my hearts content on my 22" monitor, with lots of eye candy. Seeing as my monitor is the true bottleneck in the system (meaning that 60fps is the most that's going to get past the monitor), who gives a rip if I'm not sporting the latest quad-core Intel silicon?

...Besides which, how many consoles out there can dl episodes of Dexter and play them on either my monitor and LCD TV, while I surf teh Intarwebz? Aside from the Mac, that is.

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Pixelated

What a joke to say "I tried to dl Mass Effect and ended up installing a nasty
Trojan and some sort of fake antivirus scanner that disabled my primary
one. Whoops, that'll learn me". I mean how typical of something some anti-piracy moron would say.

Either
you two are total tools and just like to post lies and misinformaton
because, well you're tools, or you have to be really, really, really, stupid to download
a 668Kb .exe file and think it was a full game.

See with bittorrent all you have to do is read the comments and you'll know if it's real, fake or contains a virus. Usually after a few people mark the file as maleware it's deleted quickly, epecially on private sites but also on public user orientated sites like The Pirate Bay. On small private sites you have almost no chance of that happeneing.

Also if you have been infected with maleware and it disabled your antivirus software well then your anivirus software is JUNK! My AV Kaspersky IS cannot be disabled without uninstalling it. That means you can't kill it with Windows task manager and you can't just delete the install folder. It's locked.

Not that I triumph piracy but I can't stand it when tools like you post misinformation in message boards, forums and comments. Like anything in life actions take thought, if you go rushing blindly into anything your going to end up getting hurt, especially on the internet. So research what it is you're doing before downloadig whether it be Bittorrent, Limewire or whatever.

Seriously get a fucking life you two!

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b3ar

and say that this wasn't my first ride on the p2p wagon - who do you think posts those first comments as to whether a file is good or not? The file fairy?

It also wasn't a big issue to make sure that this piece of crap didn't harm my system. I am not a tool, but you're pretty judgemental and condescending for someone I don't know and have never met. Your assumptions are baseless and your advice is as good as your spelling.

Now go on upstairs - your Mom wants you to take out the garbage before dinner.

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BaggerX

Trojans and other malware are an ever-present hazard for anyone wanting to download games.  If it weren't for the lack of trust that PC gamers feel for devs after being burned so many times, there probably would be less desire to take the risks involved in downloading.

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mls067

I think for the average consumer, pc gaming is to much of a pain in the ass . Some games shine on ease of installation and setup and others just suck. Who wants to mess with ini files or cfg files just to get the game to work on a certain screen size. Or games like BF2 with so many freakin hacks that it just isn't fun any more. I am a pc gamer, and I have been for over ten years but I do enjoy a console game ever now and then just because I know that I just put the disk in and go. Sure sometimes there are updates to deal with but that not a big deal. But I must admit from the standpoint of a hard core pc gamer, I love to tinker. And being able to find cutom content or even creating my own is pure bliss. And seeing a game with all the overblown graphics is down right fun, as long as the gameplay is good.

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spideyman

First off, companies need to understand that all PC games are not rich and can't afford to upgrade every year. That being said, I did purchase a new Quadcore system earlier this year with plenty of muscle to last a few years.

Secondly, companies complain if a game sells poorly, but look at how terribly controls are often implemented. I bought Dead Space when it came out. and the controls are terrible. $50 bucks down the tubes. I will have to say one thing about games systems. You can rent games for them so you don't get burned if you don't care for the game. It would be nice to be able to walk into a shop and rent a PC game as well.

 The only way to keep from being burned on a game, I will sometimes download a pirate version of a game first just to make sure the game is something I want to actaully play and the controls don't suck. If it is, I will buy the game and support the dev. If not, I uninstall the game and it's game over. Certain games I have pre-ordered such as Left For Dead and Call of Duty: World at War.

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BaggerX

I think that devs are definitely hurting the PC game market by releasing games with horrible cases of consolitis.  Interfaces that just aren't suitable for PC gamers, Oblivion is a perfect example of this.  I took a while and a lot of work for modders to fix the interface problems with the game.  It still isn't perfect, but it's about as good as they can make it considering the lack of effort that Bethesda put into the PC interface. 

Until devs realize that console interfaces don't work on the PC, gamers are going to continue to want to try before they buy.  Especially since there's no way to return a game even if it's complete junk.  I was pleased that Mass Effect got an interface overhaul for the PC.  It still had problems, but wasn't nearly as bad as a lot of other games that were basically unchanged from the console version.

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AttilaTheHunk

Stardock already mentioned something like this before but I thank Tim Holman for bringing that up again. I only hope Crytek is listening this time.

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nicknack171

i personally dont pirate but i see his point... since i have no money and still use a pentium 4 i can see where hes coming from. when i buy a console i know the games for that console will work and  i dont have to go buy a new 200$ graphics card. but i like pc gaming much more: mouse and keyboard,mods,free internet gaming for most games( crap you windows live gaming). and like gordon said in a earlier podcast, " if u buy a kid a console, he just ends up smoking pot in his basement. if you buy a kid a computer, that can lead him to becoming a graphic designer or a IT tech."  GO PC GAMING, WOOOO!!!!!

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jcollins

The games working for the console used to be correct.  Now with the online connectivity, I think they're a lot more lax on their Q/A procedures because they can "always fix it with a patch".  Used to be, you didn't have that alternative.

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s3th

Haha man you have no idea how much I love that quote, genious. Like you said though, Consoles like Xbox 360 are fun, but computers take alot more skill, I think people that use a mouse and keyboard could dominate anyone at a game who uses a controller. Whether PC games die or not, I will always love computers. And even though, High-end games make people go for better computer parts, the thrill of buying something new for a computer either it be a New CPU or GPU or anything, I always get that thrill from seeing the package on my front porch and getting to try it out, hah.

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jcollins

A keyboard and mouse DOES dominate anyone with a console.  That's why the game makers nerf down the accuracy of the PC controls and give autoaim to the console players...  Otherwise all the console players would scream and whine that they're getting p0wned when playing PC players.

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