Comcast Dishing Up $10 Internet Service for Low Income Families

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edward2112

So, now these "underprivileged children" can play web games, look up porn and cheat on their homework for next to nothing from the convenient location of their own home.

Anyone who thinks that more than a tiny TINY number of people will actually use this as it was intended (for an educational tool) is completely naive.

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Danthrax66

Asshole

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Carlidan

Guess most americans are naive then. 

P.S. It cost nearly nothing for Comcast to do this. So guess it's a win win situation for everyone. Sure they can't make a huge profit as they do with regular customer. But I bet they will still make a profit. If you don't think they are not making a profit and losing money then your the naive one. :)

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Carlidan

Okay there goes Seamus, somehow he made this article political! :P

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Eoraptor

For those pointing to libraries as the answer to free internet for the poor, let me provide an example.

My community has a library, and yes, it has free internet, both through public terminals and through wifi for bring your own access.

Its hours are 10am - 5pm monday through friday, and 12pm-3pm on saturday. That means it is closed more than it is open. (lack of funding for more librarians, etc) So if you happen to work days at a shit job, you're probably screwed.And of course, if you are using the public terminal, there is a 1 hour time limit.

Consider that, even now, and even in a small town, many employers will no longer accept a paper job application, and instead tell you to go use their website, and that means if you can't get to the library, or don't know spomeone with a computer they are willing to let you come over and use, that you're SoL on job hunting. (They just closed ANOTHER 37 of our Workforce Development offices as well, told people they would have to use the WFD website if they couldn't drive the seventy miles to the nearest one)

So I'd say that telling someone to go to a library that may not be open when they are available is not the answer, unless they want to sit around in the dark on the stoop outside with  laptop, assuming they have one.

 

As to the "lazy people" yeah, there are ALWAYS going to be people who game the system. The best way to deal with them is to cut lawyers out of the system, because beleive me from personal experience, the people who NEED services like disability, food stamps, child support, Legal aide, etc... don't get it: but the lazy schmucks who promise to cut in their laywers on any settlement get what they want. I still have to pay $15 for my "access line" phone service. then I still have to put full priced DSL on top of that in order to make use of remote medical services and online support groups. $10 internet would be a godsend to me. Hell, you go to the social security office these days, the first darned thing they ask you, in a snooty tone no less is "why didn't you use the website?"

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aarcane

It should also include a forgiveness program for those poor schmucks who have tried to maintain comcast internet service in the past and failed, or immediate migration for people who now can't afford their overpriced services but need them for work or school.

also, what about all those people with kids who don't go to school yet, or attend schools without free lunch programs, or are generally unmarried?

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livebriand

What's the definition of high-speed internet? It seems that anything that's not dial-up is considered high speed. I consider 1.5mbps low speed.

Can't these people just get internet for free from the library? This means that everyone else ends up paying several times more for these poor people to get an (almost) free ride. Not quite fair... However, I can see the point of giving them basic access. How about this - the speed is the low 1.5mbps, but there's quite a cap. 10GB/month should be enough for web surfing and homework, who cares if they can't watch youtube and play online games a ton? Sure, it still costs the ISP around 1 cent to deliever 1GB of data, but still, I'm saying this because it would prevent the system for being used for more than the intended purpose.

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winmaster

"What's the definition of high-speed internet? It seems that anything that's not dial-up is considered high speed."

 

That definition is, in fact, the most widely accepted one. My 512 kB DSL line is "high speed."

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Eoraptor

ditto that with the 256k cross I am currently nailed to. "high speed" is literally not even good enough to do youtube on streaming.

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aarcane

providing the level of service these people will recieve will cost comcast almost nothing, in fact less than $10 per account per month.  therefore, comcast will claim resulting losses and charge the rest of us way more, even if it is government subsidized.  it sucks, but that's the way our misunderstandings (as a society, not as max-pc readers) of technology allow large companies to abuse us.

 

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TommM

I'm not a fan of this.  I work in the government and see the unbelievable amount of entitlements already handed out.  Don't know if this particular program is being subsidized by the Feds or not, but someone is paying for this - most likely regular customers.

I think it's important as a society that we have mechanisms in place to help those who have fallen on hard times and need a helping hand. I have zero problem with that.  But we have cultivated a segment of society into living off of government subsistence.  I know of families who are going back literally 3 generations of having never worked a day and are living entirely off of government subsistence.  Programs like this only empower them to remain that way.  At some point in time there needs to be a checks and balance on subsistence.

The Internet is available for free to everyone via libraries and school PC labs.  It's not like students don't have these already available to them.  I'm concerned that this discounted Internet is really only going to be used for pRon, streaming movies and playing WoW.  And again, encourage people in this financial state, to stay that way for the discounts and free handouts.

Just my 2 bits...

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CaptainFabulous

Yeah, how dare those damned dirty poor people play games. WTH, doesn't the governement give them enough? And now they want to play GAMES!?!?!? 

Y'know, I've found a surefire way to weed out the douchebags in any particular location. Announce you're providing a new program for low-income families and then wait to see who complains about how the poor already get too much or that they're incensed their tax dollars are going to those filthy animals.

Cause yeah, being poor is SUCH a thrill-ride. Now with 1.5 MBs $10 (not FREE) Internet they'll all feel like the riches and completely distract them from figuring out how they're gonna put food on the table and clothes on their backs, and forget all about their shitty minimum-wage job. Yeah, that's it, I'm sure that's exactly how it's gonna be.

Thanks for making it very clear exactly how ignorant you are. While there are always going to be those that abuse the system, assuming that all people who take advantage of these programs are dirty lowlife scum-sucking parasites who deserve to be poor, miserable, and without access to basic modern services just proves you're an epic jackass.

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TommM

Touched a nerve, eh?

That's fine.  I'm for some form of control of subsistence which in the U.S. is being roundly abused by a significant segment of the population.  As I mentioned, I know of families that go back generations taking advantage of those subsistences having none of the family members having worked - or attempted to work - a day in their lives.  I'm just asking for some control, that's all.  Continuing to handout freebies or discounts only empowers families to remain the way they are.

On the other hand, apparently you're content to hand over the bank account to anyone claiming "poor" status with no checks and balances in place.  You might want to remember that the next time you see some lady in a grocery store wearing $140 designer jeans, $70 acrylic nails, $80 hairstyle, $300 in jewelry, carrying a $250 designer bag and paying for their groceries with food stamps.  And I'm sure their family has the $10 Internet connection and $150 laptop now too.

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CaptainFabulous

Really, so that 5% of abusers is what you're going with? So there can be absolutely no middle ground? All poor people on assistance are good for nothing shits that abuse the system and spends thousands of dollars on luxury items? Really?

Got it. Well your ignorance is showing too. Which is surprising coming from someone who supposedly works with poor people all day.

I really hope both you lose your jobs and go unemployed for a few years and have a life of poverty thrust upon you thru no fault of your own. I'm betting your tunes would change really fucking quickly.

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Ghok

Wonder what the cap is? :)

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Eoraptor

As opposed to most other universal access services which are based on a family's status via food stamps, medicaide, or title XIX eligability.

Not that this is a horrible thing. It does seem like it is everything advertised to get access to the poor. but yeah, for low income people with children who are not yet school age, or who do not have any children? way to dodge a bullet on having to provide service there Comcast. And I wonder how much they will charge to come out and do an install on that Pentium 3 or 4 machine with no ethernet card running XP service Pack 2 or lower when all these poor people can't afford to drop 150 bucks on that little netbook offer right at signup?

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Danthrax66

Well technically they don't have to do anything for anyone they could charge $900 for this it's their company. The issue you are playing at is that we should start considering Internet Access a right like many countries do and actually have a push to improve our infrastructure.

 

As for the fact that Comcast is only allowing people with kids on the free lunch program to get this offer it makes sense. This way they trust the governemnts judgement on the qualifications for the program and don't have to do anything additional to determine if you qualify, which saves cost and probably allows for this program to exist.

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Happy

It will be different in just a few years when the Atom is a hexacore beast and Google's ultra high speed internet access is becoming the new standard.

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Happy

It will be different in just a few years when the Atom is a hexacore beast and Google's ultra high speed internet access is becoming the new standard.

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