Civilization IV Becomes First Game Ever to be Nominated for a Grammy

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Trooper_One

I love that theme!  Good for them for being nominated!

All the Civ games were pretty good in their respective period; but ultimately, my heart lies with Civ IV and expansions (don't get me wrong, I got Civ V on day 1 in Steam, and I like it!)

 

 

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Slurpy

Didn't CivIV come out in 2005?  How is a song from that up for a Grammy now?  Aren't they segregated by year?

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Craig-g

The guy released an album with it on late last year.  The nomination doesn't really have anything to do with Civ IV.

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Lhot

....it's the bad economy.  The Grammies, just like every other useless organization, are suffering.  This will be good publicity....all "firsts" always are.  Slightly off subject...but has anyone noticed how many NEW organizations have been cropping up lately.

....and before anyone flames me for the word useless, I mean useless as in less useful than many other organizations.

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Nimrod

lol what a load of crap. there have been TONS of games with way better music than this (Everquest2) that deserve it 100x more than this game does.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23uAlZVFrz8&feature=related

^^^some of the top all time game music ever composed, beats anything in any FF or Civ game any day. It is a TRUE orchistra masterpiece

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Nimrod

lol what a load of crap. there have been TONS of games with way better music than this (Everquest2) that deserve it 100x more than this game does.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23uAlZVFrz8&feature=related

^^^some of the top all time game music ever composed, beats anything in any FF or Civ game any day. It is a TRUE orchistra masterpiece

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chipmunkofdoom2

If you liked the game and that's influencing your enjoyment of the music, that's fine, but be realistic about it. The song sounds like crappy amature-composed filler to make a scene feel "bigger" than it actually is. Yeah, the brass choir about half way through is nice, but even then, the chord progression is senseless and just not of my liking. Having never played either game, I'd say Baba Yetu wins by a mile. In the Everquest song, the chords go nowhere, the themes, while interesting, just whither and die off before repeating themselves again, and it just feels to drag on rhythmically.. nothing interesting happens. Baba Yetu has pretty much everything I just bagged on the Everquest song for not having.

To each his own, everyone has different tastes, yada yada yada. Just saying Baba Yetu appeals more to the classical and romantic fan in me. Qeynos appeals more to the 86 year old Alzheimer's patient in me who forgets that the music he just heard 2 seconds ago wasn't going anywhere and was stale and boring.

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Nimrod

Thanks for reveling your self to not know anything about music and to be a total rube in general!

 

"The music for the game, over ninety minutes' worth, was composed by Emmy-award winning composer Laura Karpman and recorded by the FILMharmonic Orchestra Prague under her direction. Karpman has said of the music in the game: "Every place has a theme, its own separate, unique feeling - from a quasi-African savanna to a Babylonian city. Every cue in EQ2, with the exception of the attack cues, is like a main title of a movie. A more cinematic experience for the player was one of our goals." [1]. Purchasers of the EverQuest II Collector's Edition received a soundtrack CD as part of the package."

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyECCs7sohs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUA2TR7eyW8&feature=related

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mesiah

Being composed by an emmy award winning composer and being worthy of an emmy are two different things. John Williams writes great music, but that doesn't mean he doesn't churn out some garbage also. I am not a huge fan of the civ music, but the song you posted really isn't that great. Don't get me wrong, its not terrible to listen to, but without its in game context it simply isn't a moving piece of music.

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bautrey

Sure thats orchestra and Baba Yetu isn't orchestra.  And personally any civ song beats that song.

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Talcum X

That was a very nice piece and the video compliments it wonderfully.

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mclovin

They should have kept that song for Civ V...can't beat it.

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I Jedi

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I believe that this is the only way left to us to stop these human spammers from showing their advertisements until a moderator/admin can remove the comments and/or user altogether. This way we do not have to rely constantly on moderators/admins to be constantly vigilant in moderating the commenting board, and everyone can take action to get rid of these spammers asap.

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JonPhillips

Hey, we have no problem with suggestions like this. Post away! FWIW, I think your idea is a good one, but I am hopping that we will be rolling out a solution in the next few days that should render moot this comments ranking scheme you suggest. To wit, I just received this from our product manager (the editors' interface to the dev team):

"Hi Jon, We're implementing [REDACTED], which is a 3rd party spam filtering module which has a great reputation. It's been on MaxPc staging for a while, we just had to work out a pricing model with them (it's a pay service). Michael closed a deal with them Friday, it will go up early next week."

I redacted the name of the service as a simple precaution. Who knows -- maybe the automated spam-bot isn't so automated and has a counter-assault ready. Don't want to give away precious intel to the enemy.

Which leads me to wonder: Has even a SINGLE member of this community ever bought a fucking "ugg boot," let alone one from a spam-bot?!

Anyhow, let's see how this new pay service goes.

Also, do you all NON-admins have little blue and/or red flags in your menus of comment icons? Long ago, we instituted a scheme whereby if three users ticked off the "mark as spam" icon, the spammy comment would go away. I have these icons, but I'm an admin, and I can't immediately see if non-admins (still) have these flags as options.

I Jedi: Thanks for your thoughtful strategizing.

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Mighty BOB!

No, I do not now, nor have I ever seen in my years of coming to Maxpc.com the flags of which you speak.

We'll see what the results of this new service bring, but if it doesn't work out, at the very least I think a "flag post as spam" button would be prudent.

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Ghok

I do not have those flag things.

Honestly, There are never hundreds of posts to a topic, so I don't know why you don't screen them. Still, I guess if an automated system works, then that would be better.

I have never bought ugg boots, nor would I freely associate with those who have! ;)

 

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JonPhillips

I don't actively screen EVERY post for spam comments, but for posts that I do click into (and that's always a few a day), I always read the comments and immediately SUSPEND accounts that have posted spam (which also kills all their comments site-wide, in other articles).

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ABouman

Some of us do actually spend time clicking through every post to delete spam and suspend spammer accounts, I spend part of my day trying to make a dent in the number of spam posts. Because we really DO care that about the spam problem, and we are doing what we can to make the site (and the comments) better and more readable.

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mesiah

Kudos to you moderators. I do notice that the spam disappears from posts throughout the day. It just comes at such a pace that it would be a full time job just hunting it down and getting rid of it.

That being said, I really hope this automated spam filter is better than the last one. I stopped coming to this site for a while because the last spam filter would block meaningful posts while still letting the spam through. I'm all for getting rid of the spam, I just hate to see heavy handed approaches.

Thanks again for your efforts!

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Dexter243

and buy the way i will be righting a bad revue for each and every one of the spammers sites

i will not be nice  about in nether

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Dexter243

ok maximumpc needs to stop the bull shit advertisement in here

i am tired of seeing it and it it is not fixed i will no longer be checking out the post to articles

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aziobron

Sweet mother of spam Batman!

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majorsuave

"Civilization IV Becomes First Game Ever to be Nominated for a Grammy" Wow, took them 5 years to consider the game? Remember? Civ IV came out in 2005, 5 years before Civ V! And besides, I agree, Award shows tend to reward the 'very successful market placement` or 'astonishing commercial success` more often than anything else.

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joeking

Gee, you sure do have a strong opinon about the Grammies, don't you?  It left me asking the question, what exactly do YOU consider "truly good music"?

And if there's any awful excuse for an awards show, AMA's take the cake.  Yes, the AMA's, where they snub artists who cannot attend due to logistical reasons (i.e. halfway around the world touring) and give it to the runner-ups.  Meanwhile, throughout the show, they're shoving down your throat the fact that YOU THE VIEWERS decide who wins, which clearly is complete B.S.

But isn't that how a majority of these award shows operate now (except the Grammies)?  Millions of tween girls getting on their labtops and voting for Justin in unison?  Vote, clear browser cache, vote, clear browser cache, vote, etc.  Is this how awards should be given out?

I guess I'm begging for an example of an awards show that isn't a "awful, corrupt excuse".

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Ghok

I can't think of one, really, but that doesn't let the Grammys off the hook. They're just the top of the list in bad award shows. Generally they have no interest in the type of music I like, so really that doesn't give me any interest in acknowledging them. Honestly, when it comes to the type of music I like, the tween girls voting for Beiber are not much less relevant than Grammy judges. Obviously I have niche music tastes, and few would watch my own award show, but there are more like me than most let on.

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