gingrich

September 16, 2009 at 4:35pm

As a long time Opera user, I can recommend Opera but not version 10.

I ran into three separate problems, including the cache problem 1337goose noted above, each of which would have kept me using Opera for productive activity. 

 

Opera has a forum at http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=26 which has an unending stream of one problem after another which users have had.  Many of these problems involve things that worked fine before but version 1o broke. 

 

These problems add to the long list of old problems that Opera has left unaddressed. 

One poster, "Disgruntled Opera 10 user: some things never change, eh?"  at http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=291379 noted:

 "Until Opera can sort out it's user-friendly-ness issues, it will never reach the great unwashed, so-to-speak. Not that many of you care about that. But I do. There's money & opportunity there and I would like my favourite browser to kick FF ass! There are so many things better in Opera. But the basics, the basics, oh gosh....... 

 There someone labeled "banned user"  said:

 "Opera should pause and take three or four months and not try to add anything new and focus its developer resources on the dozens, if not hundreds, of issues like Yahoo Mail, the address history bar search, and other user usability issues 

 The Opera censors closed the thread and labeled it "non-constructive." 

They also closed another user frustration thread "Opera 10 = Proof That The "Opera Team" No Longer Listens"  http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=291879

Opera has a long history of indifference to frustrated users and version 10 has put many over the top. 

 I would recommend Opera 9.64 as the stable release.

 

gingrich

September 16, 2009 at 4:33pm

As a long time Opera user, I can recommend Opera but not version 10.

I ran into three separate problems, including the cache problem 1337goose noted above, each of which would have kept me using Opera for productive activity. 

 

Opera has a forum at http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=26 which has an unending stream of one problem after another which users have had.  Many of these problems involve things that worked fine before but version 1o broke. 

 

These problems add to the long list of old problems that Opera has left unaddressed. 

One poster, "Disgruntled Opera 10 user: some things never change, eh?"  at http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=291379 noted:

 "Until Opera can sort out it's user-friendly-ness issues, it will never reach the great unwashed, so-to-speak. Not that many of you care about that. But I do. There's money & opportunity there and I would like my favourite browser to kick FF ass! There are so many things better in Opera. But the basics, the basics, oh gosh....... 

 There someone labeled "banned user"  said:

 "Opera should pause and take three or four months and not try to add anything new and focus its developer resources on the dozens, if not hundreds, of issues like Yahoo Mail, the address history bar search, and other user usability issues 

 The Opera censors closed the thread and labeled it "non-constructive." 

They also closed another user frustration thread "Opera 10 = Proof That The "Opera Team" No Longer Listens"  http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=291879

Opera has a long history of indifference to frustrated users and version 10 has put many over the top. 

 I would recommend Opera 9.64 as the stable release.

 

MrBlonde81

September 05, 2009 at 9:24am

I'm using FF as my main browser. Chrome is my second choice, but all I really used it for is faster performance with Google docs vs. FF 3.0. I don't see the difference between FF 3.5 and Chrome. Once a month I launch IE (Eight on most computers and seven if not) to update XP. Actually that's more often than I've launched Chrome recently.
I tried Opera before I heard of FF, it didn't impress me, and I was probably using Netscape then. When I tried FF 1.0 that grabbed me with it's extensions and add-ons. I gave Opera a try again vs. FF 2.0, but by then I loved FF's extensions and add-ons.

I'm not going to change browsers until I think there's a problem with mine.

maniacm0nk3y

September 04, 2009 at 6:17pm

I used IE and then I found out about Firefox. It was great while it lasted, but ever since 3.0 I have been having problems. I tried Chrome, disliked it and stayed with Firefox. Now on 3.5...and Firefox is having trouble loading rich text in Gmail, watching Flash (sometimes the browser crashed) and a couple other things had me looking the other way.

     Now I am using Chrome and I am pretty sure I am going to keep it. The only theme I used on FF was the Nasa Night launch, I used about 3 add-ons (which surprisingly are replaced by Chrome-and better implemented...like Download Statusbar) and the simplicity is really nice. I don't need much, I'm just going on the internet...so Opera was pretty terrible. 

     It's nice to see that all these different browsers are borrowing from each other though. I guess it's all up to the user to decide what to use. 

tnrccola

September 04, 2009 at 4:09pm

Opera. I really like being able to tile or cascade the tabs.

silentrob187

September 04, 2009 at 3:17pm

If only Opera and Firefox had a baby browser we would be able to end the discussion.  Opera has the better speed and organization and Firefox has the customizaiton--which I agree with others cannot be replaced with speed. 

JDK

September 04, 2009 at 2:40pm

These tests...on XP.

 

I use Chrome with Vista SP2 and theres a visibly noticeable speed difference between Chrome, Firefox, and IE.

In terms of noticeable things Chrome crushes them all.

snapple00

September 04, 2009 at 1:29pm

Do people really choose browsers based on the millisecond difference in doing tasks like opening the program?

 

MRrelabled

September 04, 2009 at 9:06am

Firefox takes too long to start, support for the other browsers is needed by websites, I was on one website and it supported Safari on a Mac but not on Windows. The Choices were IE and Firefox.

WFUJay

September 04, 2009 at 8:17am

Adblock Plus & Noscript.

Until Chrome or Opera can utilize these add-ons, Firefox will always be superior and I will continue to use it.

Tekzel

September 04, 2009 at 7:18am

I have been using Firefox for a looooong time now, sometime before v1.5.  But lately, it has been crashing constantly!  Granted, it could be one of the 30+ extensions I have but damn it, I can't live without them!  I wish they would include what extension crashed the browser in the crash info dialog.

1337Goose

September 04, 2009 at 7:14am

I've been an Opera fan for years now and I agree with LogicMaster2003 below. Opera is totally "Kick-ass 10" on Linux. However, for some reason, a few days ago, it just really bogged down. I cleared the cache and it started working fine again. I've never had this happen with another browser. =S

 As for the results? I wouldn't pick a browser based on speed alone. Security, extensibility and built-in features also come to mind, no? 

~Goose

JupiterTrooper

September 04, 2009 at 7:16am

PC Talk

Well I agree that once all is said and done Chrome is the fastest of the three. 

On my blog I too have been tracking the features and updates of all the major browsers including firefox,

opera, IE, safari and chrome.  If you would like to read more on the subject please take a look at my 

Opera 9.6 Review(Opera 10 preview)

 

 

foamcup

September 04, 2009 at 6:26am

They're testing 2 stable browsers against an alpha version?  Chrome 2 is the stable release.

logicmaster2003

September 04, 2009 at 5:43am

Agreed !  The author should at least test it on several OS.  I use win7-64, winxp-32, and mandriva2009.2.

Win7-64, Chrome is the best, Opera is next on the line, Firefox 3.5.2 seems to be the last

WInXP-32, Opera seems to be the best, Chrome is next on the line, Firefox 3.5.2 seems not that great 

Mandriva2009.2, Opera rules !!!!!!!!!  Firefox 3.5.2 is sooo bad and slow but SWIFTFOX for the selected CPU is a lil bit better, no chrome for linux yet.

 

And I also think the browser test should also include the flavor of CPU

Modred189

September 04, 2009 at 4:45am

Interesting information, for sure, but there is one HUGE issue... They are using windows XP!!?? In the article they mention that the tests are of 'modern browsers' but they use a nearly 9 year old OS? Not Vista SP2? Why? Why not throw windows 7 in there? The author alone state sthat Chrome performs better on his Windows7 system, so why not the others?

 It's a good review if you are using an older computer, but for those of us with modern systems (shoot, even my Netbook does not have XP on it anymore (win7 pro)) it is pretty meaningless.

 On a side note, I use Chrome exclusively any more. It's just a lot faster to start, faster to load pages and much more minimalistic (which I prefer) than any of the others. Since I am not a huge add-on junkie, it's perfect for my uses.