The China-Google Fallout Continues, Hong Kong Search Results Censored

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Zazubovich

After they decide to take their ball and go home, having been spanked in a market where according to some analysts they chose not to provide a product suited to local users.  Chinese language web sites, if you look at a few and even if you don't read the characters, convey information in dramatically different ways from those of us who use phonetic approximations of words with alphabets instead of symbols.  There are nearly 50,000 characters and not 26 to 50 letters, so entering word searches might be tougher.  Check out bandai.co.jp or gigabyte.tw or xinhuanet.cn for examples of symbolic language web site design.   Similar but very different and coming from a different cultural perspective.  Google et al are trying to make products from our cultural perspective to sere our needs, while symbolic language countries must learn a new language concept to even use the internet.  Plus, Google's name in Chinese means "harvest song" or "farm song."  What does that mean to people in that market?  Is that like naming your web site "Hillbilly love song search site?"

AS for finding censorship to be an issue now, that's pretty typical corporate face-saving behavior. See GoDaddy.com's recent chilling with Chinese domain hosting. Churchill said Americans will do the right thing only once we have exhausted every other possibility.

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Biceps

I can't argue with your assessment of the differences of page design in languages that use phonetic alphabets, such as English, and languages that are partially or primarily (or entirely) comprised of - essentially - pictograms.  You are right that there is not would it be difficult to adapt a system based in English for an Asian language, but also that people who use Chinese charaters to communicate actually have different thought processes as they are associated with langauge - this can be explained as a cultural difference, but my belief is that the cultural differences actually arise (partially) from the language differences.

That said, though Google may have been having a difficult time in China's market, I think you are going to start to see a chain of these defections in the next few months.  There are already rumors about Dell, GoDaddy, as you mentioned above.  If this becomes a trend, it will have some interesting (and not necessarily positive) effects in both the short and long term. 

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nHeroGo

...more corporations were made of the same material as Google.

It is not all about the money. Google is not going to go broke for leaving China. Google is not the biggest player in the search-business in China; they've got their own big-boy. The revenue paid by Chinease companies to advertise to Chinease people in Chinease - I don't think Google makes the same amount of money there as they do everywhere else in the world, particularly when they are not the top dog.

China's growth is unpresedented in human history. That is going to change. It's been easy for foreign companies to start their business in China. That is going to change. As the domestic Chinease companies grow stronger it will be harder for other international companies to gain traction while the rest of the world wakes up as being dependant. China will start swshing its tail around and when China will swish its tail around the way the US have been doing around the world, you know you will be in trouble. It is just a matter of time.

At this point, the best thing that could happen is if more companies, like Google, would get out of China, then the Chinease government might possibly find a way to change its ways. They cannot change their ways right away, because they must not lose face. But maybe it would soften the blow later.

Unfortunately, corporations only cares about a reasonable rate of return NOW. Not so much about what they are doing or how. I'd like to see more corporations focusing on doing their business elsewhere and not just 80% in China.

Would Wal-Mart do the same thing as Google? Not a chance, but an exedus would be good. Will you still shop at Wal-Mart? Yes you will. And China knows it. You are their crack-wh#re. 25 years from now, Washington will be a side-show in the same way that the UK has lost its world dominance that they enjoyed for so long. UK went bankrupt and handed over all their territories to the US. Soon US will go broke and pass the torch to China - you don't have to chip in.

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Sebie Kay

Everyone is bashing China in this post... I just have to play the devils advocate!

We geeks and nerds the whole world across need to remember that China did give us something vital to the survival of the modern geek/nerd:  All you can eat Chinese buffet!!  Come on, how could us geeks survive without all we can eat general tso's chicken, crab rangoon, and mongolian pork, all served after a questionable amout of cooking to make it barely edible, but most likely to make you sick by the time you get home.

 Come on guys!  Don't forget, China gave us the all you can eat $5.99 special!  Drink included!

-=Do unto others... THEN RUN!!=-

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D3lt4

The more I hear about China, the more I hate them.

 

I support google and so far they have been doing fine without China and I am pretty sure they will continue to due so. 

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D3lt4

The more I hear about China, the more I hate them.

 

I support google and so far they have been doing fine without China and I am pretty sure they will continue to due so. 

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Tekzel

Fuck. This is the last god damn post I am going to make on this fucking board until the person responsible for that spam filter is taken out and shot on live public television. 

 

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Biceps

I vote we have him drug out into the street and kicked repeatedly between the legs by at least 50 small children, and that it be put on you-tube, and posted on max-pc's website for all us loyal readers/posters. Asap, stat, yesterday.  So tired of totally mundane things being blocked... especially by Max PC, who should have it all figured out if anyone does.

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Danthrax66

+1

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Danthrax66

This just in-- Google has purchased an army and has began an invasion of China. :D

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da_samman

I can neither agree nor disagree, for the sole fact that China has the world's largest population.  They may not technically need China, but to cut them off is to cut off a substantial source of revenue.

Sincerely yours, from Fort Lewis, WA

SGT Samuel E. McClard II

Life's a journey, enjoy the ride!!

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Biceps

There is a difference between cutting off a source of revenue and cutting off a source of potential revenue.  Note that China is still in low single digits in terms of the percent of revenue it brings Google.  I applaud this effort, particularly when you consider the completely evil business practices of companies like Yahoo.  I will never, ever use Yahoo again and recommend anyone else who cares even a tiny bit about human rights to also avoid them.

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Zan

True that.

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PawBear

Enough said.

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