China Suspected Behind Five Year Cyberattack Campaign

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szore

You fools are being extremely naive. China is our friend, they wouldn't do something like that to us. They said so.

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rredline

A typical excuse MOD use to claim more budget from the Senate. They are spending 600+ billions every year, 3-4x compared to China, at a time when there are no major threats and the gov is in debt crisis!

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szore

No major threats? We are in three wars....

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TerribleToaster

No no no, those are only police actions. Like when the neighbors kids are having a party and are too loud. That's when you call in the air strike.

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szore

Ah, thanx for clarifying that!

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SYL808

Ever wonder why these sort of things just sprung out of nowhere around election time? Quick, somebody jump on this one. It'll sure play well with the voters!

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Neufeldt2002

No election here, as we just had ours, and Canada is also saying it was hacked.

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SYL808

Every Bob Doe that ever surfed the web claimed that they were hacked by none other than your neighborhood-friendly Chinese people. But, hey... we're used to it. A little BS never hurt nobody.

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TerribleToaster

Isn't it werid how how all these major hacks originating from China over the past decade or so are all done by foreigners? And that they still haven't been caught yet even though China has, possibly, one of the most well controled borders in the world.

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LilHammer

Now there is tangible evidence that China is behind these attacks (though there's been speculation for years) and but we've continued to grant them "Most Favoured Nation" status - forget whether there are any real economic or political benfits to being the nation who's granted MFN.  It's a political endorsement of sorts, if nothing else.  Though it may only be a subset of the Chinese people behind the cyber-attacks, I would be willing to bet it is at least at the indirect instruction of the government.

I've also been speculating for some time that all the lead used in the manufacature of goods bound for the US has been on purpose to poison or kill us, even if it means doing it over a long period of time.  Since this has the potential to destroy genes, I'm sure it is just as effective knowing that lead poisoning can cause birth defects and ensure future generations of the hated Western world are brought low.  Wonder if we'll ever find eveidence to this effect as well?

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whathuhitwasntme

nice way to remove comments there that you dont like paul

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TerribleToaster

 

For those who are curious, I had the (dis)pleasure of reading whathuhitwasntme's removed post and can summarize it for you:

"Your writing is crap, I could do it better."

Except with more grammar errors, a few cases of CAPS LOCK, and unnecessary explanation marks.

Also, let me help you with your one line post there:

"Nice way to remove comments [there doesn't add anything to the sentence and is stricken] that you don't like, Paul."

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whathuhitwasntme

YOUR post is a troll

mine made a point

that while you did not like

was at least a point not a

look he said something I DONT LIKE WAAA WAAAA

but like I said, this is just not worth the effort to play spell checker police with you mr grammar teacher

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TerribleToaster

Proper grammar is something I normally don't harp on online; however, if you are saying you'd make a better writer than someone else, I expect you to have and use the writing skills to back that up.

 

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Paul_Lilly

Trolling and SPAM are typically the only comments I send to the Nether Regions, the latter accompanied by a ban, and the former I give the benefit of the doubt someone's just having a bad day.

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szore

Mr. Lilly, speaking for myself, I just want to thank you for your epic contribution to this site, you are awesome! Keep it up! You're a freakin' machine, dude!

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yu119995

That's interesting Paul because I could have sworn that I started the comments with a very harmless, "Great.  Here comes WWIII. *sigh*" or something to that effect.  You took that down.  Please explain.

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Paul_Lilly

If your comment was removed, it wasn't by me.

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yu119995

Thank you.  I appreciate the response.  Keep up the good work btw!

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whathuhitwasntme

ya know what never mind is not worth it

you get what you pay for

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TerribleToaster

 

If you figure it is truly not worth your time/effort then don't mention it at all in the first place. You don't need to mention to someone that they aren't worth your time, otherwise that means that they, in fact, are; but, you feel the need to make them think they aren't out of some disillusioned belief that somehow your words are of great importance to them. Being perceived as so narcissistic and antagonistic can be damaging to your image.

 

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whathuhitwasntme

did you think up all them big words just for me?

 

and the not worth my time comment was for what I REMOVED and did not post, I had a lengthy reply for you, but I decided to take a different road. As this is only destined for a ban an removal in this thread.

I instead went to the web site in question, messaged the author and pointed him in this direction. If its not plagarism, your good. If it is, well...... they got laws about this stuff. How about we see if this stays up a week, or is quietly removed from the web page.

Is that a good enough reply there for ya toaster?

Like I said, its not worth the effort or time to have a contest in here about who can spell better or use big words. Lets see how the real author feels later?

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TerribleToaster

Big words?

"and the not worth my time comment was for what I REMOVED and did not post, I had a lengthy reply for you, but I decided to take a different road."

It doesn't matter what you removed or why you removed anything. There's no need to draw attention to that fact as that negates the point of removing it in the first place. It's just a backhanded slap.

Also, this article cites it source by name and by linking to the orginal report which is standard fare. 

It's a simple and clean "hook/introduction, abstract, block quote of major point(s) for validity, and references" report.

Nothing about it is plagrism.

 And if you wished simply to inform Paul that you feel the article was plagrized, you probably shouldn't have started off with the insults or generally have put any insults in the post. Your orginal post just came off as tirade, not a piece of friendly advice. 

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whathuhitwasntme

thats  your opinion

and I suppose you are allowed one

like I said,

if the author feels the wholesale duplication of his work verbatim

and the subsequent publishing of it is indeed fair use

I am wrong, I'm man enough to admit if I am wrong.

However,

if the author of the original work feels differently........

well I guess we wait an see

 

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TerribleToaster

 

As honored as I am that you deem me worthy of having my opinion, I must inform you that it is actually not an opinion. If you quote something and then cite it directly, that is fair use. Plagiarism would require Paul telling us or implying that he wrote the quoted text. Seeing as he cited said quote(and cited it to someone other than himself), it's not plagiarism. It can never be plagiarism, because he never portrayed it as his own work in anyway (hence why it's a news report).

 

But by all means, don't dilly-dally here. Report this criminal offense to the original author. I'm sure he will be upset that two sentences from his sixity some sentence report (also excluding tables and diagrams) were used as free advertisment for his article, or as you put it, the "wholesale duplication of his work verbatim." 

 

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Carlidan

You probably had a lengthy reponse. But most of it is F****,S****,BI****, etc.... So yeah probably would have been taken off. 

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whathuhitwasntme

nah it went a bit into a ramble about other things and it was clear it was going to come across

wrong, so I removed, and said, its not worth it, as it was not worth it to drag my personal business in here.

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Carlidan

Roger that :)

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SAND_CREATURE

Is it just me or has this exact same report been published many times before?

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