China Poised to Reclaim Supercomputing Crown

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pastorbob

I took a middle-school science class on a field trip to the NCSA-University of Illinois where the Blue Waters (11.6 pfs) super-computer is housed. They showed us some of the weather simulations they are doing to study hurricane and tornado systems, and software being developed for medical research along with a tour of the computing center. Interesting note - they were using AMD cores (367,000).

That was one of the most amazing experiences in my life. I can't even fathom a computer that is three times faster than the one at the U of I.

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The Mac

i thought Blue Waters used Keplers...

That would have been a cool field trip though. super computers didn't exist when i was in middle school however. I think we had a couple of Commadore PETs in the library.

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pastorbob

They are using both AMD Bulldozer and Kepler cores. Here is a link to the system hardware:

https://bluewaters.ncsa.illinois.edu/hardware-summary

Yes, it was an incredible trip. I think I was more in awe than the kids were.

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MrHasselblad

america should be grateful and bow down to China.

If there are two things that america likes, it's... Financing the war machine; especially if it's a country that had literally nothing to do with 9/11 (that would be the case with Iraq). The second item, sending back that borrowed money back to China.

In the meantime the American infrastructure collapses, and less and less money is spent on americans. Only a short matter of time before the entire american economy collapses - as will the flag.

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hypersonic

There are two industries in China that has brought it fame the world over.
The first is cheap labor which is getting expensive by the month and the second, stealing everyone's technology without paying for it ! In the last 30 yrs I have yet to see a Chinese technological breakthrough that was not stolen from the west ! The Chinese government don't care, don't recognise or understand the concept of rewarding the individual or group that have come up with a new or better concept. Copy right ensures monetary reward for their efforts. Is this how china defines itself as a smart country ?

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shakedown17

Bitcoin....

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Endlesspath

How much does it cost? (initial expense/monthly rate [staff/power/maintenance]). All the same, no doubt to be used for things more useful to national interests (stealth tech/weapons research/space research/aviation research/electronics research) then the western egocentric pseudo-pandemic "HIV" research.

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The Mac

i dont suppose it reslly matters to them how much it costs, if it becomes too expensive, they will just throw handfuls of children at it until its cheap again...

lol

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Joji

What's this? Spending millions of dollars on building a super computer instead of creating more hospitals and lessen the fee for medical care? China, you are so generous.

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H1N1theI

+1'd

As a Chinese national, I still can't understand why China can't afford to create a safety net for its workers. Or free healthcare. Or subsidize education.

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nightkiller

You don't miss what you don't have. If the leadership isolates the majority of your compatriots and infers that what you now have is the best available, why bother spending the money? After all, Mao promised an iron rice bowl. He didn't promise an easy life. That's an ideology that is perfect for prioritizing the needs of the state over the needs of the individual. As Eric Hoffer observed "The troublemakers are those who need public cures for their private ails".

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H1N1theI

What's sad is that in a true Lenin-Marx society, the government would melt away after the proletarian revolution happens, and the people would get their full share of resources... Unlike China, the USSR, and about every "communist" country.

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nightkiller

Double post. Sorry. MaximumPC, your verification system needs an update bad.

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nightkiller

This is the lie of Marxism/Communism. It is assumed that there will be a convergence of thinking among all participants that the goals of the individual mirrors that of the state and vice versa. The idea (or principle) of diversity implies that this will never take place, so there is this urge to give others the sense of direction they themselves cannot see. Karl Popper saw this first hand when he was told that in order to advance Communism, individuals must be sacrificed.

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H1N1theI

Yep. Well aware of this fact.

The reason that Communism is not going to be a valid government in anything larger than a small town.

Anyways, the current situation is that China is spending ludicrous amounts of money on trying to one-up the world's other governments while conditions at home are not where they should be...

I wonder if you can make a parallel to the US here.

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nightkiller

In China, as part of a modern economy, people _should_ be entitled to certain benefits. In the US, as part of a modern economy, people _expect_ to receive their entitlements. That's why China has the money to spend on their stuff and the US has to borrow it.

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Freebar

DailyTech recently had an article on how thousands of Nvidia Titans were able to map in 3D the atomic structure of HIV's capsid. The capsid is what makes HIV infectious and knowing its precise structure can give us clues how to design a new class of anti-retrovirus drugs to combat the AIDS pandemic. I imagine this would be a good opportunity for Tianhe-2 to further plumb HIV's armor for weaknesses, perhaps a chink in its outer membrane where its spikes stick to CD4 receptor sites. Maybe we can tailor drugs to become magic bullets for cancer cells that don't harm normal cells, greatly refining chemotherapy. Currently we can't repair spinal cord injuries because of the billions of nerve connections damaged, but with computing capable of 30 petaflops (what is a petaflop, anyway?) can we? And perhaps we can tailor custom made antidepressants for MDD sufferers? I see super computing as a boon to medicine.

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H1N1theI

We already have certain anti-viral HIV treatments, and not to mention 10% of Caucasians are completely immune to the HIV-1 group, and retroviruses are just too complicated for us to solve right now...

But nevertheless, it is a good tool for medical research and aerospace simulations, if they let grant access not just to Chinese military research.

I wonder what would happen if you ran Folding/SETI@Home on this thing. :P

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LakeErieWater

Good Overclocker? Can it run Crysis 3?

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goodtime

can...can i do all my handbrake conversions on it?

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PCWolf

So, what does it do? Is this what they use to cyber Attack the idiots in the US Government & US Industries? I mean, how hard can it be to keep secrets on a computer that's Off the internet? I guess the Chinese got too much money than they know what to do with. 1st Ghost Cities, & now, Super Computers with no real purpose.

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H1N1theI

Nah, supercomputers are wasteful if you're doing a brute-force approach on a password. A regular computer that utilizes rainbow tables, security exploits, or collision attacks would be far cleaner. That being said, the US is failing cyber-security 101. Never let your employees use flash drives, never connect critical infrastructure to the internet, and never store your blueprints on a completely exposed computer.

And China having too much money? That'll stop soon when the hyperinflation and housing bubble stops. I wish China good luck when that happens.

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Blackheart-1220

No 4-way SLI?

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PCWolf

Lol!

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