Canonical Pitches Ubuntu 12.10 as 'Perfect Alternative' to Windows 8

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DigitalNogi

OMG! Adobe is supporting Ubuntu?! :D

Wait... No? THEN IT'S NOT THE 'PERFECT ALTERNATIVE' IS IT!?

At least for me anyway.

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Zoandar

And here I thought their 'perfect alternative' was going to be removing Ubuntu's toothless GUI and totally going back to terminal, the only tool that ever actually DOES anything in Linux. That way it would be just as ugly as Win 8, and still maintain its "complete PITA to use" status (just like Win 8).

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satrain18

...And you're wondering why people stopped using DOS. "It's the CLI, stupid!" No average Joe would want to memorize some 5-10 lines of commands just to install a browser, or, God forbids, a printer. It is this kind of thinking that will keep PCs out of the mainstream and relegate them back to the geek elitists. It's like going back to the 80s all over again!

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AEngineer

I had 12.04 running with no problems on an old laptop. I went through the upgrade process to 12.10 (many hours) and was warned during the process that several packages didn't install. In retrospect I should have aborted at that point, but I didn't. It completed as though all was well and restarted. Now it boots, but cannot update any packages and is clearly trashed. NOT cool.

If I bother to do anything I guess I'll have to install a clean copy and lose everything I had before. Fortunately I've only used this as a test machine.

Based on this experience I surely wouldn't trust Ubuntu on a production machine.

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whitneymr

Burn the new version to a disk and use as a live distro. Salvage all of your old files this way then install new version and import your old files.

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comoncents

I think it depends on what you are trying to do whether or not Ubuntu is the answer to Windows 8 deniers.

IMO, if you are looking for Linux alternatives to Windows: I personally like Linux Mint a little better then Ubuntu. It actually reminds me more of a traditional Windows experience and was an easy transition from Windows 7. If someone is trying to get a Windows 8 type feel (simpler, somewhat handcuffed and 'net consumer oriented) then Ubuntu Unity is probably the better choice.

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NineRaven

im currently using the previous LTS from ubuntu and if this is anything like what ive seen of windows 8 i wont be upgrading anytime soon. the team at canonical seems to usually deliver a good product so i will hope for the best from ubuntu 12.10.

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don2041

Tried it on two different computers and found it running so slow on both that it is unusable. Had 12.04 on them before and they ran like lightning. I am not impressed.

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Benjo

I'm tempted to install this or Linux Mint Debian Edition on a box I haven't touched in years if I botch my upgrade from Debian Lenny to Squeeze. I was a longtime Ubuntu user until I got my command-line legs to switch to Debian, trading ease of use and eye candy for lack of bloat (faster system!) and long-term stability.

Windows 8 (with the cheap upgrade deal) will have a home in a rig currently running XP.

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Engelsstaub

The fact that Canonical has finally added Whole Disk Encryption to the install process (OS X has had it since Lion and Windows 7 has BitLocker in the paid upgrade to Ultimate) is a big deal and a welcome addition.

Prior to now, if you wanted WDE in Ubuntu you had to use the text-based alternate install method when installing the OS. For the novice it was a grueling pain in the ass.

There's plenty of options for gamers like dual-booting, WINE, and VirtualBox (if you have some power to spare--I imagine most of you have more that enough) etc.

If you don't like Unity you can easily install any other UI you want. That's one way to kill the Unity Shopping Lens. Another is simply "sudo apt-get remove unity-shopping-lens"

...or you can use whatever you like. Freedom is all about choice. We have plenty when it comes to computing.

EDIT: Sorry, it's "sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping"

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Arnulf

So Unity can now be repositioned along the bottom edge of the screen ?

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BobbyPhoenix

It's about time huh?

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psycoking

Considering that my experience with the Windows 8 Release Preview ended up being the kick in the balls I needed to get me to go out, buy a cheap laptop, and finally commit to learning Linux (something I've been telling myself I should do for the better part of a decade), I can see where Canonical is coming from with these statements.

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iheartpcs

Did he really say that with a straight face?

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Neufeldt2002

Personal preference, but IMHO Unity is better than Metro and nicer to look at.

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wolfing

year(get_date()) + " is finally the year of Linux!"

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firefox91

Actually, the perfect alternative to Windows 8 is Windows 7.

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satrain18

True words that's not coming from a die-hard Linux fanboy like Silencer. But, then again, Windows 8's problems(like the missing Start button) can be solved with a service pack or two, so, in other words, just wait.

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Xenite

Perfect.... unless you want to play games or use 98% of your favorite programs.

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Dartht33bagger

If gaming wasn't such a pain on Linux I'd switch to it in a second.

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Andrew.Hodge

Honestly, I can say that I have never found a windows program that didn't have an equal quality linux variant. Even photosynth has bundler sfm. So far as games go, I have had to go through a ton of trouble to get some of them to work, but most do work on playonlinux with about half that I own playable out of the box. That trouble has been the only reason I reinstalled windows.

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vistageek

Creative suite. Origin, Steam (yes, I know they have left for dead on linux now). I also haven't found a good alternative to ms visio.

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Cheeseiron

I've gotten almost all of my favorite Steam games running GREAT through Wine...

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Andrew.Hodge

I know I said "equivalents", but assuming you absolutely have to have paid software, CS6 has a silver rating in winehq; previous versions have gold. As far as photoshop, there is GIMP, which some people might think is inferior to photoshop, but I could argue against that being true, and for my purposes is actually quite a bit easier to use.
Video editing equivalent to after effects and premier pro can be found through a combination of kdenlive and blender. Blender itself is extremely powerful as a 3d modeling program.
I can't really speak for audio work, although audacity seems pretty legit for simple splicing. I've already spoken for gaming, so origin and steam are taken care of.

As for visio, I didn't even know what it was until you mentioned it, but a quick google search makes it look incredibly similar to openoffice draw.

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mccordrm

"Perfect alternative"... unless you're a gamer.

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PCLinuxguy

until Steam's Linux client hits public beta and then full public use.

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