Can Windows Mobile Catch Up to Android, iOS?

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riopato

Was because manufacturers didn't want to gamble on expensive parts. WinMo ran on a 200mhz chip with 128mbs of ram! Could anroid run with those specs? Aside from the HD2, what WinMo phone actually had hardware that was high end? 

Thing is expensive parts now will be cheap parts 1 year from now. Microsoft is only following the trend of smartphones and making sure the base platform is within the range of current systems that the competing os needs to run. If manufacturers had the choice to pick their hardware, we'd most likely see more versions of the Tmobile G1 instead of the Samsung Galaxy or G2! Exactly how many phones actually come with Android 2.2 already installed? Manufacturers are hoping that winphone 7 will level off since it will mean other companies will most likely follow Microsoft's lead and will be demanding a higher basic specs. Imagine a blackberry no slower than 1ghz or Android with dual cores as standard? Manufacture nightmare!

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sojrner

I went from winmo (last one was the first omnia) to android. (htc incredible)

I think if anything, the high specs are a good thing for their chances. Apple forced that early, specing out their hardware and forcing one phone. They blew away blackberry's low specs and performance. Android soon followed with 'premium' phones. Yes, they have midrange stuff that pads the numbers, but it's the high end stuff that grabs headlines and brings the overall buzz of consumer perception.

I think they did good w/ jettisoning legacy support and forcing the hardware to provide a solid, smooth user experience.

...now, whether they can retake everything they've lost in the market is another story. Competition is good however so I hope they carve enough to stay viable.

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riopato

Because they can't write code that microsoft can. Apple can't even write native touch drivers in their own os while MS had their os touch capable since xp! Apple had to create an entire os to do it and orginally called it mac x for phone, now it's called ios! They can't even admit to their own bullshit!

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nadako

I have seen what microsoft has been planning and let me tell you they will catch up. Microsoft is giving the phone the same approach as W7. If we want it badly enough they will give it to us. I can understnad why some people are mad about not being able to use copy paste but hey that should be out by the first update. Along with someother stuff. I belive that the gaming on the phone will beat any other phone just because they have some huge gaming companies already making games for the phone. Give them about a year and they should be caught up.

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YoshiHNS

I am wondering if they'll have a better chance of pulling ahead if they get on verizon much sooner than the iPhone.

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riopato

They collaborate very well with partners! Microsoft doesn't make the hardware, they let phone manufacturers make the hardware which allows WinPhone 7 to be available to any carrier. Wasn't the Kin a verzion phone for the main reason of availablity to a wider market?

Although I would love to see what microsoft would've made if they decided to make a phone. If it's anything like the Zune HD, I would really get that the moment it came out no matter what carrier it would've been on!

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Ashton2091

I think they would. I am kind of betting on the iPhone on Verizon getting delayed again. It has been many times. And from what I understand it's only going to be the 3Gs. That hasn't been confirmed yet. Sadly that won't make a diff cause people just love the Apple brand. Back to the subject though...I think that they would have a pretty good chance if they can pull release on Verizon before Apple. Which may just happen since Microsoft has a longer and better relationship with Verizon who is already behind the Windows Phone. They're just working on the CDMA hardware.

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Ashton2091

First lets start with, Windows Phone is NOT Windows Mobile. For those thinking that it's just another piece of Microsoft junk...remember Microsoft is in the process of rebranding the company name with high quality products. I mean, Windows 7, Windows Live, XBox 360, Windows Home Server, just to name a few...don't exactly suck. I personally think Windows Phone will have a chance as long as it's marketed correctly. It's all about marketing. They have learned a valuable lesson. That lesson is that unlike before...they have to make their phones not only productive, but fun an innovative. That's exactly what they have done. With every major GSM carrier (CDMA next year), standing behind them it will be hard to screw this up. That's not to say that it's not possible. Now as far as catching up to Android...it may take a while. I mean...Microsoft is a bit late. It may not ever happen. Who knows? BUT...I do think that Microsoft will make a significant splash in the market. When people walk into stores and go hands on with Windows Phone 7...it's going to be a tough choice. As of now it's pretty easy to choose Android over WinMo6.5. That won't be the case with Phone 7. I've owned a LOT (i'm a phone dealer) of Windows Mobile phones. I for one am glad to see Microsoft getting their heads out of their asses. And one other slick move they made which will def help against android (and apple) is that they used a move from Apple. All Windows Phones doubles as a Zune HD and comes with a significant amount of Flash memory to accommodate that. With their hardware requirements (unlike WinMo), Windows Phone definitely has a chance. Even if it's not a success, it has a chance. They have a lot of support behind them.

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Elric

After Having owned two winmo PDAs and one WinMo phone, I don't think I'm personally willing to give windows another look unless they simply storm the market, even though this rev does look like a true reboot of the OS. As someone who's now on Android, I can't see leaving a platform that's so powerful, open, and widely supported just to get into the fourth place OS from another proprietary locked down source. If I'd wanted to do that I could have gotten an iPhone or Blackberry to begin with.

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TechW

With Windows Phone 7 Microsoft is back in the game. Based on the announcements, they have a very good backing in hardware and software. And, sure, it's a high end platform today, but, Android came out that way, and now, there are low end Android phones coming out as processing power increases and costs go down. This will happen for Microsoft as well. In 12 - 18 months there will be entry level Windows Phone 7 smartphones.

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Walnut

It all depends on how good of an OS WP7 ends up being. From what I've seen so far, it looks very graphical and not particularly powerful. I'd bet it will end up being more of an alternative to iOS than Android, and I have some doubts about whether any considerably number of iPhone users are going to run out and grab Windows phones. 

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BenMo

"One of the roadblocks, they say, is the high hardware requirements for WP7 devices, which will limit the platform to enthusiast smartphone models."

Isn't this what Apple did?  It's working pretty well for them.

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Eoraptor

It ~was~ working well for them, when their only competion was RIM and Symbian and the joke that was windows previous phone software. But the writing is on the wall for iOS. Android does most if not all that you can do in iOS and can do it on a much broader range of platforms than once-a-generation iphones or a tablet. They're losing market share and scrambling to figure out ways to keep it (opening up app store rules, ongoing rumors about adding carriers, etc). I expect that Apple iPhone will end up in the niche that Macintosh is in now. People who own ALL apple hardware will continue to use it, but everyone else will go to android powered devices that can come in every flavour they want instead of only Steve's flavour. (specially when that flavour was a device like iphone4 and its fundamental engineering flaws in favour of "looking sexy")

And win phone 7 is going to be in the same spot if they can't get their hardware requirements down. unlike PCs, smart phone tech isn't so much processor driven, and so you don't see a newer faster chip popping up every few months to drive the industry faster. If phone 7 only comes on super-phone class devices; well, they're missing the bulk of smart phone users living in the $150-$400 range where android is wiping the floor with apple. Not that phone 7 isn't great, iOS has its strong points as well, but they are both handycapped by running on powerful and/or expensive hardware.

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YoshiHNS

The cost of a smartphone is already pretty damn high. I don't think that the extra cost of the Windows Phones will sway people away from them. When you're already paying $360 a year (or $300 for the new plans), what's another$50-$100 bucks for the hardware.

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Vano

I've been windows mobile user for 4.5 years now. With all the possibilities (thanks to XDA) I really enjoying the phone, however the next phone I get will be...android, as soon as there are one with decent camera, but so far there is none that is close to iphone's quality camera, the hardware is all good, but cameras suck.

WP7 just doesn't appeal to me.

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riopato

and have been enjoying what the entire winmo community offered and it did not invovle XDA! The power of this os was really hampered by the hardware that this os can run on. You can't even run Android 2.2 on a device made a year ago! shit most devices didn't even come with 2.2! Like most of Microsoft's products, they are making sure the lowest common denominator isn't left out by making that denominator a reasonable level. Winphone will eventually be my next phone. The interface concept alone is already superior to what Android is offering. What people don't understand is the real hidden power having just that interface will bring to power users! 

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rich5665

I think it will have an impact; more on Apple than Google. The Apple iOS4 is locked into one phone and only one phone only. Both Windows and Google have the right idea; get your OS onto as many hardware platforms as you can. I like the idea of being able to buy a phone that looks good with an OS that I want from a mobile carrier that I prefer. Much like my computers I'm not stuck with one OS one one model of laptop/notebook or desktop.

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