Blizzard: Next MMO Cool, Different, and Still A Ways Off

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nekollx

why is World of Starcraft so hard? Warcraft started as a RTS as well, had multiple races and Classes (unit types) the only addition Starcraft would have is TANKS!

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Muerte

I guess, now that I think about it, it wouldn't be any different than Warcraft.  Really its only the storyline that's beeing used.  The rest of the gameplay  is all based on Diablo's style.

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Muerte

WoW has only marginally gotten better. You still have to put large groups together, which is a pain, and the end game runs are still more than 3 hours long. 

Besides who hasn''t recognized the elements of Diablo2 in WoW?  Other than using the Warcraft3 story line this is Diablo.  Why do you think its so addictive?  Blizzard recognized the elements of Diablo that kept people playing and integrated them into WoW.  I have friends who still play Diablo it was/is still a very good game.

I still don't know how they'd make the World of Starcraft.  My guess it would be WoW.  And I got tired of doing the same things over and over again after Burning Crusades.  Same quests different surroundings.

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ghot

I still play D2 because NOONE has made a better game since then!   The control interfaces on any new game are simply ridiculous.  D2 is/was a work of art pure and simple.   I have all the newest games...they just ...well...suck!  Sure they have better graphics, and a few actually have a decent story......bit when it takes 4 arms and 17 fingers to move three feet...there's something wrong.  WASD movement controls....puleeeeeeze!

Run out and spend $50-$150 on a keyboard or mouse combo to run and shoot a gun or swing a sword...puleeeeeze!  If move and attack can't be done with a mouse...its a failure in my book...the ONLY time a keyboard should be necessary is to drink a potion, cast a spell or reload.

Whats the deal with the flashlight anyways?  What moron wouldnt simply duct tape a flashlight to their gun, in real life, which is what I assume the newer games are trying to simulate.  Oh yeah. almost forgot...lets attack the unknown enemy in the unknown location....in the dark...ooooook   :/   In the dark both opponents can't see....in the daylight both CAN see....its still EVEN!  In fact, since most games are in umknown territory, only an idiot would attack at night.  I'll admit there are a FEW games set in our world (aka Earth) where one could be expected to know the terrain.  But, even then, the enemy is usually entrenched and knows the terraine much better than the attackers.

The game devs are in bed with the manufacturers  folks....they create games that require more powerful hardware for a reason.....they want your money and the kickbacks from the hardware manufacturers!

I've said it before, I'll say it again,  you keep buying the latest and greatest, they'll keep supplying it!  You are the consumer, tell the devs what YOU want, tell the manufacturers what YOU want.  They will balk and try to outlast you, but YOU will win in the end.

 

 

 

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Phated1

...that this doesnt come out any time soon.  I'd like to get a couple more years worth out of WOTLK.  Blizz seems to have taken a step away from its cartoonishness with WOTLK.  The environments, the mobs, the quests all seem much more gruesome and fitting of the world than TBC.  It feels like a new game almost, all the excitement of being able to level up and see new content again.  Get new gear and have new goals to work for.  WOTLK seems to be a good step in the right direction, and definitely something I will enjoy for as long as Blizz keeps the servers up.

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Germ

bejeezus - any fanboy who's still talking up how they only play Diablo 2 and having played more then the next lame soul has seriously got to move out of their mom's basement. For Christ's sake, buy a circa 2005 PC and play something (anything) that's not all pixelated and faux-3D

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ghot

and no you haven't played longer.  Despite your obivious need to be heard, this is NOT a website for spamtards.

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habuza

then build a bridge and get the hell over it. Fanboi.

I've played blizz titles as long, if not longer than you have. You're just pissed off because your e-peen keeps getting smashed into the ground.

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ghot

Im still playing Diablo II, I won't buy another Blizzard Game untill they get their act together again.  I've been a loyal fan since the WC II days...my loyalty took a swift kick in the teeth in 2005!  From that point on Blizzard has broken its own EULA so many times that even the BBB is sick of hearing from me.  They have continually castrated their fans one after the other.  The only fans they have now are those that don't know what Blizzard USED to be. 

For example, in D2  they turned the MF (magic find) down and allowed/operated supposedly non affiliated sites, that SELL D2 items, that used to drop from monster kills.  There is no way to actually prove this, but all the old school players know it goes on and are NOT happy about it.  Each "ladder season" they ALLOW 3rd party hacks (bots and maphacks) untill enough items have been farmede from the game to allow their supposedly non affiliated websites to acquire enough inventory to be able to sell items for real world money, back to the players.  The only way these "sites" could acquire D2 items in the volumes they do, is to have access to the .d2s character files on the Diablo II servers.

Every "ladder season" (approx. 1 year long) the price for example, of 40 high runes goes UP by approx. 400%.  At the start of this last season which began on June 25th 2008....40 high runes were selling for $850.00.  The start of the season before, the same 40 high runes were selling for $150.00.  This not only dissallowed by their own EULA, but could easily be stopped if Blizzard so chose.  They choose not to. 

Granted, the bandwidth costs alone for just the 150 odd servers that support "free" online play on the USEast realm is exhorbitant.  However that is no excuse for a literal breach of contract with Blizzards fanbase.  I realize that keeping those servers running and maintained costs money.  But am I supposed to believe that a corporation the size of Blizzard did NOT know this when they created the EULA?   Apparently, Blizzards' hindsight solution is to keep increasing the games difficulty until every player just gives up and quits, thus solving their server cost problem without their having to "lose face".  The really sad part of all this is the fact that the player turnover hides these facts from the players themselves.  Only the true old schoolers have been "on the game" long enough to actually see the big picture.  

If I had the FCC or the FBI in MY backpocket, Blizzard would all be in jail!  This goes way beyond even the total falsehoods presented to the fanbase at the release of the original Diablo II.   In the quest log there was a space left blank for an Act 5, currently known as the Lord of Destruction Expansion.  So in effect the fans paid for a game that was imcomplete by design.  To make matters even worse, even though the hardware advances, precluded the need for the "streaming music" (which kept the CD's spinning to reduce lag) Blizzard did not eliminate the need for the CD to be in the CD Rom continously, thus destroying both the CD and the CD Rom's of the games users.  After approx. 50 emails over the years and numerous reports to the BBB, Blizzard ....finally gave in, ONLY this past June 2008, and allowed the game to function with no CD present.  The really amazing part is that this had NOTHING to do with preventing piracy!  The sole purpose for this was to force their loyal customers to keep having to buy new CD's to keep playing the game.  The side effect of course was the resultant damage to said users CD Roms.

I will grant Blizzard a hearty round of applause for creating probably the worlds greatest OPRG ever in the history of gaming.  It was a pure unadulterated work of art.  It was free to play, it offered the lone wolf and the gregarious equal opportunity to succeed and even had a very subtle psychological addictive factor to it that I have not seen in any game since.  Blizzard should be applauded for each and every one of these achievments.  

However, no matter how well a game is created, this does NOT give Blizzard the right to "take their ball and go home" without at least admiting that they are doing exactly that.  Contract law expressly forbids this type of action and Blizzard should be brought to task for the way they have handled the situation.

Unfortunately, so many games are released annually that Blizzards atrocities have remained hidden from the very people that should have risen up and called them to task.  Namely, the games magazines, the lawyers concerned with the gaming industry and even the people who bought the "whole encilada" unknowingly.

We are now hip deep into probably the worst time the computer gaming industry has ever seen, from the consumers point of view thats is.   Once Blizzard set the precedent...the rest followed like blind, rich sheep.  It is so bad now that even the OS giant commonly known as Microsoft is employing, or starting to employ these very same tactics.  At least I can be glad that I'm growing older, rapidly....as I will soon be unable to enjoy one of my favorite pasttimes for much longer;  and thereby avoid the total crushing illegality that the software industry is becoming.

Thank you Blizzard!

It's too bad that History won't remeber the work of art you produced.   They WILL remeber the utterly dastardly economic monster that you created though!  But you won't care will you?  You won't even hear the "mourning of the public" for the loss of a once pleasant pastime.   Sure, right now it doesn't SEEM to be heading in that direction, but I'm quite sure Futures analysts can see the writing on the wall. 

I'm not a terribly religious man, but I sure hope there is a HELL, because you, Blizzard, among others, belong there.  At least you, Blizzard, will have the front row seats  :)

 

 

 

 

 

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Phated1

so people still actually play diablo II?

god and i thought people were addicted to wow.  Talk about diehardyness.  And if you think blizz is screwing the game so much why do you still play it?

 If i was blizzard i would be doing anything i possibly could to get you to stop playing and move on to the 21st century.

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roninnder

...for existing.  Otherwise I just don't know where I'd go to find whack jobs who are completely out of touch with reality tirade like this. 

My favorite part was definitely "There is no way to actually prove this, but all the old school players know it goes on and are NOT happy about it"

Classic.

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Sonickid101

Is that the old school Blizzard logo from Warcraft 1 ahh those were the days.

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xs0u1x

how about they make something where you dont have to raid for 15 hours straight to get a crappy ring that really feels like it wasnt even worth it in the end?

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Digital-Storm

I have never been in a 15 hour raid when I played. What game are you talking about?

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xs0u1x

alittle exaggeration at best. but a 5 hour raid more like it on average, you'd have to be a real loser to sit around and play this game like its a full time job.

 

can we not understand alittle exaggeration?

im going to go ahead and assume that you have done this more than once, do you have a thermos with urine in it next to your pc?

 have fun :D

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Khaled

If you like 15 hour raids go play FFXI, World of warcraft has changed a lot from the Molten Core days...

and I am surprised I didn't read anything about the Wrath release on maxpc's site .. (current news) 

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nekollx

so who wants to bet world of Starcraft of World of Diabo(craft)?

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