Baer

August 17, 2010 at 9:23pm

But, when it is time for a new phone in a few years I will strongly consider a Droid of some kind. As for the Torch, I have no intention of ever going back to AT&T so I have not even looked at it.

k11k

August 17, 2010 at 7:38pm

So much better then those Storm. Tested out at the store, once they leave ATT and get them on another provider I will get one. Plus the nice thing is I wont be the one paying for the service or the phone. Even if the bill don't go to me, "I still care about the provider".

cr8n

August 17, 2010 at 7:06pm

I have a Bold 9000 and love it, but i'm not one looking to spend every waking minute glued to my phones screen like a lot of people I see.  The torch looks like a good fusion of touch screen and keyboard, which appeals to me.  

 

To the guy that hates his BB, I wonder what model you have?  Not all BB's are created equal and can be compared to top of the line phones.  My Bold multitasks just fine and web pages load quickly for me.  I'm not a fanboy but just pointing out that I don't have android/ifone envy in the slightest.

zaternine

August 17, 2010 at 6:12pm

I would think that bad sales would partly be due to the fact that who would want to switch to a crappy service like ATT, if the phone were available on other carriers it would have done better im sure. Just imagine if the original ifone got released as a CDMA and GSM for all major carriers im sure everyone would be all over it.

Asterixx

August 17, 2010 at 5:51pm

I see ReCaptcha works well keeping the spammers at bay...

Asterixx

August 17, 2010 at 5:50pm

I've been a Blackberry owner for a little over a year, but I won't have another one. I have been disappointed by this phone's lack of apps, and the entire OS is dated, unstable, and slow. The phone crashes at least once a week, often when I'm talking on it or about to answer it (only a battery pull makes it work again, and it takes a good 10 minutes to boot up). It has zero multitasking abilities - if I'm doing something with it and it decides to send or receive a data packet it completely freezes until that packet is finished (the incoming and outgoing arrows flicker, but the screen, keyboard and trackthingy lock up). Surfing the web with the archaic browser is agony. Pages are not only poorly rendered, they're poorly rendered V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y. I have a 3G modem for my laptop and hit 5-6MBPS. The same network on the Blackberry is worse than dialup speeds. The ONLY thing I like about the phone is the qwerty keyboard.

The very moment I can upgrade my phone I'm switching to Android. I like the looks of the iPhone but I refuse to pay the apple tax and also refuse to support Apple's closed platform.

DogFace

August 17, 2010 at 4:41pm

I know RIM is trying to branch out into consumer devices, but their strength is the enterprise.  Lots of companies with millions of users are locked into Blackberry.  They may not update their phones as often as 20-year-old hipsters, but they generate bread-and-butter revenue for RIM.

Blackberry isn't going away.  RIM will keep doing what they've been doing, and when enterprise clients get around to updating their handsets, many will by the Torch.  It's just that IT directors don't go out and buy 1,000 new handsets on launch weekend.

Cache

August 17, 2010 at 4:21pm

The Torch feels like it was meant to be a hybrid device--something with a touch screen that still retained the familiarity of a solid keyboard in an effort to draw together different styles of user.  I haven't been able to play with OS yet (and likely won't until my aging Storm v1 gets it this fall--IF it lasts that long), but I am genuinely concerned for RIM.

The cellphone market is vastly different from the world that RIM grew up in--phones are more like computers than phones, and RIM is not a computer company.  RIM has failed to network with other companies for exclusive content and the result is a lackluster apps experience mirrored by rather mediocre hardware.  Their technical insight has produced smart phones that at best match the middle of the pack from the previous generation. 

The Torch is the unfortunate end result of a policy of inattention to detail, a complete misunderstanding of popular use of smart phones, a lack of cultural and social understanding, and ultimately a dated design.  RIM isn't even looking at marketing itself as anything more than a corporate tool, and people are going to want a phone that can handle their work and liesure activities.  Rim barely makes use of what is out there to connect with online--and so far everyone else is doing it better.  Maybe OS6 will bring a little zest to a worn-out ride, but it only will delay the inevitable.

addyct

August 17, 2010 at 3:39pm

I don't think we should really be comparing Blackberry devices with Android or iOS, IT's a corporate device at it's heart, and a large amount of those users aren' the type to rush out and get a new phone on the first day. This may very well be a success, but a different kind of success.

EchoFive

August 17, 2010 at 3:33pm

Sorry RIM but you dropped the ball on the Storm II.

 

I was forced to go with Android and I must say while the Torch looks better, you cant hold a candle to Android OS.

 

I suspect you have lost many other followers recently as well.

cdowley

August 17, 2010 at 3:13pm

... except for the minor detail that I can't stand AT&T and refuse to use them as my service provider.

crazitrain02

August 17, 2010 at 3:02pm

I ditched RIM months ago, so I know it's just a matter of time before they end up like Palm if they don't do some MAJOR changing up in their business plan.