BAPCo fires back at AMD and Nvidia confirms it quit too.

Responding to allegations that the new SYSMark2012 benchmark isn’t valid for today’s hardware, BAPCo fired back at AMD by saying that the company approved 80 percent of the proposals in the benchmark and asking how they can be invalid.
Business Applications Performance Corporation officials also denied that they tried to expel AMD from the group after AMD started publically grousing.
AMD's complaints seem tied to the introduction of its new Llano platform which is admittedly slower in x86 than comparable Intel chips, but far faster in graphics performance.
““Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) was, until recently, a long standing member of BAPCo. We welcomed AMD's full participation in the two year development cycle of SYSmark 2012, AMD's leadership role in creating the development process that BAPCo uses today and in providing expert resources for developing the workload contents,” the organization said in a statement.
“Each member in BAPCo gets one vote on any proposals made by member companies. AMD voted in support of over 80 percent of the SYSmark 2012 development milestones, and were supported by BAPCo in 100 percent of the SYSmark 2012 proposals they put forward to the consortium.”
On Tuesday morning, AMD officially cut its ties to BAPCo shortly after the new benchmark was released and went public saying that the SYSMark2012 wasn’t relevant and leads to $8 billion being misspent and favoring Intel’s processors over AMDs. AMD said for going public, BAPCo threatened to expel the company from the group. BAPCo, however, says nothing of the sort happened.
“BAPCo also notes for the record that, contrary to the false assertion by AMD, BAPCo never threatened AMD with expulsion from the consortium, despite previous violations of its obligations to BAPCo under the consortium member agreement,” the group said.
“BAPCo is disappointed that a former member of the consortium has chosen once more to violate the confidentiality agreement they signed, in an attempt to dissuade customers from using SYSmark to assess the performance of their systems. BAPCo believes the performance measured in each of the six scenarios in SYSmark 2012, which is based on the research of its membership, fairly reflects the performance that users will see when fully utilizing the included applications."
BAPCo said despite AMD leaving, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Hitachi, Intel, Lenovo, Microsoft, Samsung, Seagate, Sony, Toshiba and ARCintuition continue to be members of the group and that the the applications were selected for the test using market research.
This isn’t AMD’s first time complaining about BAPCo. The company previously raised hell over what it said were baked benchmarks in MobileMark 2007 favoring Intel parts over AMDs. AMD didn’t just quit alone this time though. Semiaccurate.com reported on Monday that VIA and Nvidia also quit BAPCo. Nvidia officials confirmed to Maximum PC that the company also left BAPCo but would not comment on why.
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wirehedd
June 22, 2011 at 9:27am
I was trying to post a reply to the post below regarding the way spammers are continuing to polute the forums and guess what? I was informed my post had triggered the spam filter and would not be accepted. This is bullshit. Come on guys. Serious posters get blocked but these wankers can post their garbage? Seriously?
Here was my post that the filter blocked...
Maybe there should be something that uses the actual mac address of the poster. That would probably go a long way to slowing these douchenozzles. If the network card or router they use gets banned as opposed to just the account they can't just set up a new one each time, but would have to either use a different machine or change out the card or router each and every time they got banned.
The ban list could also be shared as a public blacklist of spammers.
Just an idea I had sloshng around in my head. Not sure if it's feasible but I'd like to find out.
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mikeart03a
June 22, 2011 at 3:00pm
I joined the honeypot project because my forums were getting continually spammed, even with Recaptcha. I installed the honeypot script and included a mod in my forum that checks all visitors against a public blacklist and will deny spammers access to the forums. The spam dropped by 99% overnight. Now I just get the oddball spam message here and there.
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wirehedd
June 22, 2011 at 9:12am
Well, so much for Sysmark having any genuine relevance anymore. Another piece of software for the dumpster. It'll be interesting to see how long the sysmark package lasts now that it's all but worthless for any kind of objective benchmarking.
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Silencer
June 21, 2011 at 10:06pm
I believe AMD 100%, and BAPCo 0%, in this instance.
"AMD didn’t just quit alone this time though." ... "Nvidia officials confirmed to Maximum PC that the company also left BAPCo but would not comment on why." ...
Yep.
Way to go, AMD! :O)
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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS
June 21, 2011 at 6:53pm
Fudging numbers?
Intel has designed their compiler to intentionally slow AMD processors and cause system crashes. God only knows what their freaking OS does.
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Carlidan
June 21, 2011 at 7:35pm
Ah.... but was he referring to that when he was talking about fudging the numbers. I really doubt Intel is fudging the numbers since they are already ahead. Now when the P4 was getting it's ass kicked, I think those years they have fudged the numbers. But when your the only one that your competing against, what is the point in fudging the numbers. Sure it looks good but AMD is still far behind.
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Neufeldt2002
June 21, 2011 at 4:50pm
Unless you are there, there is no way to know exactly what is going on. Unfortunately, Intel does have a record of fudging the numbers. I am not saying that their new cores don't perform well, just that Intel has been caught fudging before, mind you, so has AMD. As for the 80% and 100% vote on proposals, one can vote for a proposal, but that doesn't mean it actually makes it into the final product as it is just that, a proposal. I would really like to know why nVidia and VIA left though, as it may shed more light on the subject.
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