Apple Wants Prototype MacBook Back

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hammeredtoast

There will probably be legal action to return it, right? But that's BS. He owns the machine. I think. I don't know who he bought it from in the first place...

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Mastro Antonio

Here goes Apple again adding some new feature on a previously released product and justifying the price gain in hundreds of dollars.

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TerribleToaster

I think this is Apple's new marketing scheme. Leak a product to the public somehow, and then cause a big fuss getting it back. It is brilliant.

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MrBlueCheese

@Eoraptor: The reason Apple was able to pull down the ad on Craigslist was " citing infringement on copyrights, trademarks, or other intellecual property rights. They are not in fact, citing that it is stolen.

@biggiebob123456: The reason they said it was an Apple prototype, because Apple prototypes have a red mobo. Also, the same computer (and same red mobo) was put on Craigslist back in 2008. Also, the mobo is hand-soldered, had no unique id #'s or the lack of a green color mobo.

To anyone who didn't read the article: 

To sum it up, the person (Carl Frega) bought the machine off Craigslist. He installed a new hard drive, loaded the latest OS from Apple onto it, then resold it back on Craiglist. A day after the buyer recieved the product, that person took it to the Apple Genius Bar, citing "random issues." That's where the Apple staff said that the product was filled with "non-Apple parts." Then the person who bought the product took Carl Frega to small claims court "forcing Frega to pay $740" and "he ended up getting the notebook back." 

Lastly (and the most important) "Apple declined to comment on whether Frega would be compensated for what he originally paid for the device."

Apple is not suing Carl Frega, they just want their device back. It is still up in the air whether or not Carl will be compensated, but Apple looks to be going after the people who Carl bought it from. 

Best Case: Carl will turn over the device and get his money back.

Worst Case: Call turns over the device and doesn't get compensated for it.

Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20099494-248/apple-wants-its-3g-macbook-prototype-back/

 

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aarcane

I'd say destroy it before returning it..  but as things are, he should contact the former high bidder from ebay and sell it to them for the $70K.  If it's stolen, apple can go after the thief for damages (what does a mac book run, $2K or so?) and have THEM imprisoned, but if they can't keep their shit together, that's their loss.

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Engelsstaub

Even as a Mac-user, I'm going to have to call "Tough Shit" for Apple on this one.

Unless it was stolen. If this is the case, the prototype is the legal property of Apple Inc. If this is the case then hopefully Apple will do the decent thing and reward/compensate the "finder." 

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A9JE

Do I hear $80,000? Why didn't apple just bid for the darn thing, that way their little secrets are kept secret, and word won't get out of apple prototype being released. Finders keepers, losers weepers! P.S. come on apple, its only 80 macbooks.

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Archtard

I'm inclined to agree. That is why I think all of these "proto type" leaks are publicity stunts to build hype about upcoming products.

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GreenTurtle

So true, probably cost more for the lawyers than to just buy the thing.

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rsaotome

No. Sell it, buy a PC Notebook or Desktop, take the left over $, pay off bills, go on a little vacation, etc...

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Holly Golightly

Hell NO!!! I would not give them the laptop after they requested it. I would take that laptop with me to Russia and sell it somebody in Moscow... Where I know I am safe from a US Military/SWAT raid. That would be my reply to Apple. Sell it to an untraceable market. Let their greed find another way to find the laptop. I will never give it to them for free when I know I can make good money out of it. No sir, not at all.

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Engelsstaub

"Where I know I am safe from a US Military/SWAT raid."

Apparently you didn't hear the news about a year ago where Microsoft got the Russian authorities to "crack down" on the pirated use of Windows. Should just go ahead and Google that one time...

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Holly Golightly

No, I think I'd much rather IXquick that instead of Googling it. They record stuff just like FaceBook. To freedom with privacy! And that old news you referred me to... That was to take down the RuBot spammer. There are still plenty in China and other parts of Russia and Europe.

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Coldrage

Thanks for mentioning IXQuick, goodbye google.

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Engelsstaub

Wasn't referring to the spammer. That was more recent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html

...and my point is that you should not feel any safer in Russia.

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simplymortified

I'd tell them to swap it for a new macbook pro....

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Eoraptor

I doubt Apple has a legal leg to stand on. for one thing, it is at least 5 years old if it's based around a unit retailed in 2007, and most theft cases have statute or limitations of 5-7 years. And since he bought it on Craig's List, Apple would be very hard pressed to make a case for "knowingly recieved stolen goods" assuming it was, in fact, stolen in the first place.

Apple needs to get a better handle on who it gives prototypes to.

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glpeter90

He should only have to return it if the person he bought from did not have ownership. 

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fellowleo

If the item was obtained legally (ie. not stolen by someone and then sold to him) then it's tough noogies for Apple. If it is stolen, then Apple should file a police report and then an investigation will show how the item came to be on Craigslist. If it can be proved stolen, then someone will get charged and Apple should be able to get their property back. If not, then Apple should be liable for prosecution for filing a false police report. What distrubs me is that Apple can shutdown the eBay sale. I am curious under what legal basis they could do that. If Apple claimed theft, they better have filed the police report and they better be able to prove it.

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tkid124

 

My guess is that someone at Apple called some friend a eBay and said, "Hey, that's my computer. It's not for sale. Can you please take it off the site."

It would be akin to my owning a gun shop, reserving the right to refuse service to anyone. And a guy walks in, fills out all the paper work, it coming back OK to sell. So my friend and I are talking at the counter about this guy who wants to kill him. The customer comes back in, my friend says "That's the guy" and the customer wants his gun, I say, "You know what, I'm not selling guns to you today. Sorry."

Well very different but similar.

 

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super_duper

Ha, love the analogy!

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don2041

Return it, Fuck No

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