Apple Unveils New iPad

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TechLarry

It is what it is guys.

It's a Rev 3 iPad, with updated features, at the same price as the old one's.

If you like the features, and they are enough to make you want to upgrade from your current iPad, then go for it.

If not, don't. Wait for the next one.

This is a standard technology world process. It's been like this for 40 years.

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aldenf

3.1 MP screen? Really? A little over-kill? While technologically impressive, how practical is it? Ideally, we want to be viewing content at a panel's native resolution. How much on-board storage will we need now for all the 3.1 MP photos and 1080p videos? What will the 1080p video look like UP-SCALED on a 2048x1536 tablet display? Why should we have to up-scale 1080p to view on a 10" screen? Where will we store 1080p video we record with the new built-in camera? Who wants to shoot 1080p video on a tablet?

I'm all for higher resolutions on the desktop with 19x12 being the minimum, please. But the desktop was designed primarily for productivity and content creation.

At this point, tablets are for content consumption. While there are a few useful productivity apps for both iOS and Android, the tablet form factor is not conducive to productivity on a medium let alone large scale.

Where will we store all this content to make sure we have it when we want/need it? External WiFi storage? The Cloud? WiFi hotspots are exactly that, spotty, depending on where we live and work. How much longer will anyone have unlimited data plans? How much are TelCos going to gouge us for data? Do we really trust Cloud providers to keep our data safe and secure? WiFi storage is expensive and simply ANOTHER device you have to carry with you. STILL no support for file transfer via Bluetooth either.

What's wrong with an SDXC reader?!?

It's time to replace my 25 month old Android 2.2 tablet. If anyone knows of a good 10" capacitive, 4:3 (1280x960 seems about right) IPS or OLED, Android ICS (or Windows?) tablet, with a GB of RAM, modern processor, 16 GB min on-board storage, full-sized SDXC reader, USB port(s) (USB 3.0 maybe?) and 8+ hours of useable battery life for $500 or less, please let me know!

I don't play games, watch video, use more than 3 or 4 apps and want no cellular radio.

I guess my requests are weird compared to everyone else. But I'm still not ready to drink Apple's Kool-Aid.

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eday_2010

"...the onboard LTE radio will work with Verizon and AT&T networks stateside and Telus, Rogers and Bell networks elsewhere."

That should read "Telus, Rogers and Bell networks in Canada".

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davidtuerk

I am a Apple fan. And I disapprove this product. 3 new things. $500. One empty wallet.

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hammeredtoast

All I want is an article about what gosh-darn tablet is the best with Comixology for the buck. That's all. I know people are gonna' way "whichever you can afford," but I don't wanna' make a dumb purchase accidentally and just throw away money.

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Jerjef

Most places have a good no questions asked return policy. Do what I did, buy a tablet to try it out and if you don't like it, return it and buy a different one. The policy usually is 14 days. Just have your ducks in a row when you make your choices and take it home and push it to it's limit and use it as if you were keeping it.

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Jerjef

For all the PC people out there, me included, who enjoy having a machine that will do what I want it to do and will cater to every possible duty that I need to take care of in my job or day to day life, we should all be very scared.

Sure we scoff at every semi-new and improved Apple iThingy and stick to our trusty PC through thick and thin, the fact of the matter is, this is the path that all technology will unfortunately follow down.

It was a proud moment in time when geek became the new sheik and we took back our dignity from the moronic toilet flushing jocks, but they are taking it all back from us again by dumbing down the very things we hold so dear. The PC is becoming an appliance like the refrigerator or the toaster. It has one use and that's it. If it breaks, buy a new one. Alot of IT people are already losing their jobs because there are less and less PC's to repair and cloud storage is eliminating the need for network admins.

Fine let the sheep buy their iPads, but for god sakes stop reporting every new Apple abomination that's nothing more than an insult to the computer industry.

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Engelsstaub

Yeah, that hi-res display and (claimed) graphics performance are an utter "insult" to "your" industry.

Link me to one time you complained about all of the negative Apple coverage and I'll post an immediate retraction/apology.

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thetechchild

It doesn't matter whose industry it is, or what people perceive the industry deserves. The fact is simply that Apple is overly aggressive and makes products that are less impressive that they are hyped up to be. That being the case, I can't see a single reason why anybody would complain about negative Apple coverage, unless it was incredibly unreasonable to the point of being MS fanboyish.

Seriously, a 5 MP camera? ... Given that the successor to the Transformer Prime is coming out soon as well, I do hope that Apple has a better comeback than this.

And, by the way, I'm seriously doubting Apple's claims that their dual core chip is 2x faster (non-graphics) than the quad core Tegra 3.

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Engelsstaub

I respect your point of view, I'm just not getting it personally:

I've never personally found a reason to doubt Apple's claimed specs (yet.) Ex: when they say a battery lasts ten hours it really does. I'm not sure why they'd lie about processing claims. They've never marketed their machines to people who drool over clockspeed.

So you too are completely unimpressed by the 2048x1536 Retina Display? I dunno, dude... IMO that's impressive, innovative, and exactly what it was hyped up to be. Not to mention it advances the state of the art and raises the bar, not only for their own devices, but for future PCs/laptops as well. (I know: Apple would be nothing without MS. All good tech companies feed off of each other to some extent. I don't care about Apple vs. MS or who is currently more innovative. I only care about what benefits me at the end of the day and wish them all success.)

I don't know anything about the Transformer Prime. If its successor isn't even out yet I will remain oblivious.

You really want Apple to have a better "comeback than this?" Comeback from what? Are iPads getting spanked in sales by all their me-toos now?

(My reference to complaining is that commenters like this are saying "we don't wanna see Apple coverage in MPC!" but don't complain if it's something highly irrelevant like who they're suing or whatever. Coverage like this is tech-related and relevant IMO. It bleeds over into your world...even if you vow to never purchase Apple products or whatever. It still addresses the state of the art and the cutting edge.) Sorry for the long-winded reply.

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Jerjef

As the saying goes, "Though I don't agree with what you say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Everyone certainly is entitled to their own opinion, as not once did I mention in my post that this is an Apple vs. MS thing, I mean doesn't anyone even care about linux? Especially given that all Mac products are based on it. It's more of an inhibitor to the actual progress of technology that I'm viewing Apple to be.

As I stated, they're turning the computer into a household appliance more worthy of replacement than repair. Now that sounds fine to the average user, but the fact still remains that their products cost alot more than the competition while sporting less features and specs. I know, I know the average user doesn't "care" about specs, even though when you ask one why they're buying the new iPad they'll spout off about the retina display, dual core A5X with quad core GPU and 1 GB of RAM, etc....even though they don't know what any of it means or if it's even any good or not. I mean if you buy a new 3D HDTV with 100,000,000:1 ratio, then next year another one comes out with basically the same specs, but the resolution is higher and now it has Facebook built into it, would you buy that and give the one you just bought to your 5 year old? Frankly the only thing the iPad or iPhone has going for it is it's extension, though unfairly managed, App Store.

And don't try to convince me that the App Store is enough to sell it because back when Apple was the under dog and the selection of software for their computer line was next to nil, why did people buy into then? It was to stick it to the man (MS) and nothing else.

Apple's sales are purely based on spite. The average person thinks they're supporting the evil Nazi like MS by not buying the free spirited hippy Apple product. Though ironically it's the other way around.

Oh and to correct you again, I didn't say it was "my" industry. I just work here.

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thewef

Apple's sales based purely on spite?

The iOS is much easier to learn than any other platform out there on any phone/tablet. The majority of people buying these new products have no technical knowledge so of course they will buy the product that is easier to use. The iPhone is behind on the hardware front, but the iOS manages to be more flawless on lesser hardware. Talk to anyone over 45. They can use an iPhone to it's full potential in a week instead of fumbling with Android for 2 months...

Yes of course they are turning the computer into a household appliance. The majority don't want to deal with settings and controls, they want to take the product out of the box, turn it on and start using it. MS

So millions upon millions of people worldwide buy apple products to stick it to MS....???

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Engelsstaub

Fair enough, Jerjef. You have my sincere respect for engaging in reasonable discourse and for being able to differ in a civil way. I can see where maybe my initial response came off as a little dickish. My apologies.

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Jerjef

It's no problem, we both came off as so and I will agree with the previous comment that the iOS is easier to use and that can be a major draw, but if you mentioned MS to any Apple user, they'll laugh at you. But more importantly to me, as mentioned before, is that this is a sort of downward spiral. To make things easier to use, we're forfeiting alot of what technology can do for us. For me, tablets in general, not just the iPad, are nothing more than a toy. I not long ago bought a tablet and after 2 days returned it simply because I had no use for it in my life. I have enough computers at home or at work and a Blackberry to fill the gap in between that the tablet was simply redundant.

I will also agree that despite the lesser specs in comparison to other tablets the iPad does perform better due to the limited nature of the iOS on it. If the OS doesn't demand much of the hardware, then higher specs aren't necessary.

What is really unfortunate though is due to the ubiquitous nature of Apple now, any other competitor has to offer a more advanced and fully featured tablet just to have a chance at competing, perhaps hoping to draw in people like me who want alot of power in their device. If Samsung for example released a tablet that had a comparable version of Android that performed in the same way that iOS does, it still won't sell because everyone trusts the Apple name now, just like what sold Windows for so many years. It wasn't the quality of Windows that sold it, ME/Vista lol, it was the name and now Apple has approached this level. Of course as they, what goes up must come down.

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Jerjef

Also just to throw this in for THEWEF, you can't look at numerous articles like this and tell me MS isn't viewed as an evil corporation that deserves nothing but our contempt.

http://newstechnica.com/2009/10/22/windows-7-released-on-question-time-to-mass-protests/

I mean all the protests were upset about was that 7 might be like Vista and they don't want tp upgrade from XP. Damn if you don't want it, don't buy it.

I mean who protests an OS anyway. What have we become as a society? Hunger, famine, recession, and war and we take the time to protest an OS's release?

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thewef

Apple has its own problems with all of the protests against the working conditions in their factories... yes i agree that protests over an OS is absurd, but this is also a country where people get trampled on Black Friday to save $100 on an Xbox haha...

I completely agree that tablets are nothing but toys. That's all they are really meant to be anyhow. iOS is not anymore limited than it's competitors though.

Apple has approached the level where everyone trusts them and believes in them now, but as you said that will eventually end. After the disappointment of the 4S release and the New iPad, the iPhone 5 better contain something revolutionary, or Apple will begin it's decent...

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Engelsstaub

I don't care if it's "Apple;" that display is state of the art and badass for a tablet. It ought to be of interest to many who would call themselves "Maximum." We all know that the tablet is no replacement for a good PC, but as a supplement IMO the iPad has no respectable peers. They just pulled out way ahead of the followers again.

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Brad Chacos

I'm not in the market for a iPad, but it would be awesome if resolutions like that start bleeding over into other devices -- starting with desktop monitors! Pixel density is where it's at. 1080p (or 720p) on a 15-20 inch screen just doesn't cut it after looking at the high ppi eye candy that the iphone/new ipad/HTC Rezound/Galaxy Nexus/RAZR bring to the table.

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LatiosXT

The unfortunate thing is... where are these panels? I myself own a phone with a 720p screen. Everything else I look at (except my current monitor, funnily enough) looks ugly. I'm pretty sure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors is a viable piece of technology today.

EDIT: Never mind, I just realized the answer to my own question: Display Port needs to take over DVI in order to move forward.

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Engelsstaub

Hell, yes. Everybody winning is a good thing. Professionals and hobbyists alike benefit on any platform/OS.

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zac.smith

The screen is impressive, no doubt, unfortunately the upgrade is not nearly enough to justify upgrading from an iPad 2, should be a nice upgrade for iPad 1 or non tablet users though, and I'm sure it will sell well in that space.

Looks like I will be waiting for an iPad 4 or Windows 8 Tablet, assuming Windows 8 is in fact light enough to make it properly viable on a tablet, if it doesn't have AT LEAST 8 hours battery life, it will fail.

To all of the people who cannot fathom why people are willing to pay more for equal or less powerful hardware from Apple, I have two words for you, production value, it is the same reason people buy luxury cars, sure your old souped up Ford might be faster AND have more trunk space, but it doesn't have the same production value that comes with a luxury item.

That is essentially what it comes down to, love it or hate it.

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jgrimoldy

Though I have a tablet (Transformer Prime), I'm still waiting to see the "killer app", the raison d'etre for folks to actually get a tablet.

The only one that has a snowball's chance in hell of repacing my PC is the Transformer that I own. Everything that I've seen so far from Apple *augments* a desktop/laptop that you'd still want to hold on to.

This does not make for a "killer app" yet...

Stay tuned...

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zac.smith

Well for me personally a tablet hits the sweet spot between my PC and phone, I don't own a laptop, and don't really feel I need to, as I can do pretty much everything I need on the go using the tablet.

I don't really think anybody seriously believes that tablets will ever replace PCs for tasks that require more computing power, no matter how powerful they become a desktop PC simply has more room to fit more hardware and so it will always be better for rendering, gaming, etc.

I may change my tune if a tablet is released that can run the full Adobe Suite, and has Wacom like pressure sensitivity and a decent stylus... But I think I might be waiting a while for something like that :P

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yammerpickle2

At least they are doing something with display technology. Something PC display makers have not really done since HDTV. 3D TV is not really selling well and I hope that Japan and Korea push the 4K or Ultra-HD sets to entice consumers into a new upgrade cycle and that will in turn drive PC displays to finally update resolutions.

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kixofmyg0t

So its 3/4 the power of a PlayStation Vita...and at least twice the price.

This thing will sell like hotcakes.

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fry

Tabletzzzzzzz...

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alex_dh9

Why do we always comment the crap out of any Apple related post? This is what they want!!

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Penterax

I'm no fan of Apple, and tablets are a waste of money for my purposes, but one thing I'll say, they are pushing the display envelope (to where it should be instead of where it is for desktop and notebook screens) to new levels, and I take my proverbial hat off, bow deeply, and thank Apple profusely for that.

;)

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brandond

Ugh, another reason for people who barely even know how to spell iPad to get excited and waste even MORE money on something they don't need.

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JohnP

Cripes, you can get a good laptop for that kind of money that does a hel'a'lot more than do apps. The size is also awkward as it is too big to fit in a pocket and too small for doing real work on it.
Doesn't matter, it will sell anyways. The real question is when will Apple tablets reach market saturation? Bound to happen eventually.

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kixofmyg0t

"too big to fit in a pocket"

This floored me. You really don't understand tablets do you? Here's a hint, they're not supposed to fit in your pocket.

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JohnP

Shoot, I OWN a tablet. I don't care if it fits into my pocket or not. BUT if I gotta carry something around in my hand and it is this expensive, give me a lightweight laptop instead of a tablet.

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firefox91

My Nook Tablet does.

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Kinetic

I guess I just don't understand the hype that surrounds tablets, Apple or otherwise. I have a sketchbook app on my phone that I'd love to use on a Samsung Galaxy Tab, or any other tablet with a vivid display, but I can't justify spending around $400-500 just for that. Everything else I can do from my tower or laptop.

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CHR15x94

I hate Apple, and just about everything they stand for, but I'd still say they did a pretty decent job with the new iPad. Anything I'd really give a crap about if I were to want a tablet has been improved. Better CPU, GPU, LTE, and that screen.

I'd like to know how the hell they are getting a 10" IPS panel with a resolution higher than 1080p, when PC monitors have been sitting at 1080p for years now. I've wanted an IPS panel for my PC for a while, but I can't fit a 27"+ screen on my desk, or sink a $1000 on one for that matter.

Here's hoping LCD makers will start making some better screens now that Apple fans go ape-shit over the new iPad with it's shiny new screen and what not.

Also, for people wondering why Apple wouldn't include an SD card slot on their iProducts, take a look at the price differences in the iPads, then look at the prices of SD cards. Why would Apple let their customer's get a good deal, or have to use a complicated, ugly SD cards? Nope, don't want that.

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orca11

We don't get better than 1080 in the mainstream monitors because 1080 is "HD". As long as their marketing can sell 1080 HD monitors to 90% of the consumers, the rest of us pay out the nose for anything bigger.

I have a nice 24" Dell I use at work (programmer). Of course I got lucky and a friend/coworker sold me his used for $100... goes for about 400 used on eBay.

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Obsidian

Not too long ago the entire computer display industry got nailed for price fixing. Many of these manufacturers were forced to pay huge fines. Not a single consumer benefited from it. In fact, we've been punished by it, because we are the ones paying that fine ultimately, and because innovation was stifled by this collusion.

A Dell IPS U2410 panel should NOT still cost $600 MSRP, but that's where the price stays. Try to find any significant improvements in computer displays and the findings will be minor; sure prices have come down for TN units but they are still not a large improvement in resolution, back lighting, density, color reproduction or even input options.

Desktop users, including the Apple Cinema display crowd, need to start demanding some technological improvements in the screen department.

How great would it be to have this kind of resolution 2048x1536 in a 24-inch computer monitor? That HAS to be easier than shoving it into a 10-inch form factor. AND as (overpriced) Apple has shown, that display shouldn't cost more than $400. So ... where the hell are they?

At one point I was looking into 32-inch TVs because they had more options than a 27-inch computer screen.

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loozer

I totally agree. Screens cost so much more for anything better than 1080p, and good pixel densities add even more.

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praetor_alpha

Ugh, yet another Apple related article on MaxPC. And here I am just waiting around for the thing that will kill Apple and all other OMG MOBILE phenomenon.

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Jaeger_CDN

"the onboard LTE radio will work with Verizon and AT&T networks stateside and Teslus, Rogers and Bell networks elsewhere"

I'm assuming that since Rogers and Bell are Canadian telecom companies, Teslus should actually be Telus.

My wife and daughter have fallen for the Cult of Apple but I'm the lone holdout with my Transformer Prime in my household.

Long live Android

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rrecine

On top of all the great features that Android has and iOS doesn't, this doesn't have a camera flash. I guess Apple does not like anything called Flash. No Siri, and not that it matters because Widgets are far superior and Android's voice recognition is much faster. Thicker and heavier. The iphone 4s and the ipad 3 would have Apple crying for Steve, but all the fanboys and people don't know anything about technology continue to buy.

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Tyger

If I may...

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

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lhatten

Pretty much sums it up!

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jgottberg

That noise you heard was not the apocalypse, it was the collective climax of the Apple faithful once the new iPad became official.

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spazimspaz

Its not even a real improvment... still no usb or sd card slots. Hell if they had at least a lightpeak port then they'd have somewhat of an edge. Its a giant Iphone and thats all it will ever be. Windows 8 tablets will dominate the market this time next year. And Android will still be gasping for air with its fragmentation issue.

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Wingzero_x

The iPad doesn't need ports that will eventually get dirty and fail. Seriously people crawl out of the cave already. Cloud computing is a reality and it's here! Everything you purchase on iTunes is in the cloud and can be added or removed from your device as you see fit. Need more storage, there's iCloud, Sugarsync, Dropbox, Box...etc. So plenty of cloud storage options. Oh, so you want something local? Well that is where the Seagate Traveller comes in. 250Gb connected wirelessly. But wait that's not all if for some reason you did need to you can always easily connect to your PC or Mac remotely from the iPad using software like Logmein or Splashtop.

Oh and all these things can be done on Android as well, and will be true on Win 8 devices as well.

And as far as Win8 devices dominating? Just like Win phone came out and dominated the smartphone market?

Sent from my PC which is about 38 miles away, via my iPad using Logmein Pro.

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jgrimoldy

Problem with storage in the cloud: Bandwith ain't always cheap. (Not to mention that I simply don't trust the security of any cloud)

3G/4G Providers have draconian charges for overages on ridiculously low caps. WiFi isn't always a free option (hotel/airport/airplane is an expensive endeavor).

It's ridiculous that you'd need to buy a new technology (Seagate Traveller) just to avoid the perilous pitfall of a port that will (as you say) get dirty and fail.

I'll take my chances on the dirty/failing port, k? (btw, isn't that what the *blank* inserts are for -- to keep the ports unsullied?) I sorta like that I can use uber cheap thumb drives and SD/micro-SD cards with my Transformer Prime. I like that I can take my SD card from my NOT SO CHEAP Nikon DSLR and plug it right into my (more sensibly designed) tablet without having to buy any additional fucking equipment or do a data transfer.

Not all of us want to spend more damned $$ for new local storage technology just because Apple is run by shitheads that try to dictate customer needs rather than listen to customers. With your "Come out of the caves..." comment, I suspect that you're a teen or twenty-something... You have a few things to learn, son....

'Funny that Apple has become what they lampooned in their famous 1984 commercial.

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Wingzero_x

Wow, had no idea that "come out of your caves" was the hip thing the kids were saying these days! Did I hit a nerve there grandpa? Just so you know when I was in the Marines I used an IBM series 1 known as the Green Machine.

But lets talk about some of the points you made;
You say the problem with cloud is the bandwith[sic], and you don't trust it....Well I guess if you're a moron and don't get a data plan that is in line with the amount of data you use that could be a problem. And as far as trusting the security of the service (which seems ironic coming from a guy using a mobile OS notorious for spying on calls, contacts, and malware) But ultimately that is your personal problem not a problem with the service.

You do realize that there are other places other than airports, hotels, and airplanes where wifi is available? Matter of fact just about anywhere you can get a cup of coffee you can get wifi...FREE!

Let's talk ridiculous technology, the largest flash media card I could find was for a Compact Flash card that holds 128GB, it costs $898.99 on Newegg. Largest SD card I could find was 64GB and they range anywhere from $79-$87, USB Flash drives; 128GB $219-$249... and each one of them are just a susceptible of being lost, stolen as the 2GB $9.99 special.I do need to make a correction the drive I referred to is actually the Seagate GoFlex Satellite, and holds 500GB of data. for $179. Now tell me how cheap that flash media is.

Oh those 'blank' inserts that will wear out and fall off in a matter of months? Yeah, I'll rather have my smooth clean lines..K.

Sorry to break it to you Apple doesn't try to dictate anything to anybody. They make a product that's it. If you like it you buy it, if you don't you don't buy it. It's that simple. As far as I know nobody was ever forced to buy an Apple product.

As far as them being like IBM, why because they are suing corporations for infringing on their patents, and/or products? Maybe if you knew anything about the case instead of getting the blurbs from this website you'd understand that there really is much more to the case, and it goes more to protect Apple's customer's, and potential customers than it does to stifle competition. Also Apple has done a lot to free our media of DRM, and has even gotten the industry to allow downloading your music multiple times if it's attached to the iTunes account.

But for making this post you'll just call me a troll, and call me an Apple sheep. But I'd expect that from a neanderthal, who is probably incapable of learning anything.

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quickone

I'm not a fan of apple by any means, but wow... That thing seemingly blows any "PC" like tab out of the water. If I could turn it into a hack-pad and get ICS on it it'd be perfect. I am now actually considering buying my first apple product ever... I'm even rocking a Zune instead of ipod

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athlon11

U of M sucks, GO GREEN!!

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