Apple Trounces Samsung in US Court: Jury Members Hit the Interview Circuit

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4nsicDave

Hey Stradic,
Your presumptions are way off. You obviously mistook humor, sarcasm and hyperbole interjected in an observation and mild rant as bragging, complaining and an argument that I wasn’t making. I am an avid technology enthusiast and PC builder and visit this website almost daily for the useful information on hardware /software innovations and availability – endeavors a luddite would hardly participate in. What you should accept is the fact that many people have many different opinions and use different literary means to express them. If you allow yourself to get irked by someone’s opinion, so much so that you are compelled to respond, be sure you understand what they are saying and make the right choice of vocabulary and context in your comments on the internet. Lighten up.

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Mikey109105

I wonder how I knew the legal system would side with Apple. I really can't wait for a bunch of high profile companies to band together and sue the pants of Apple. Then we'll see how well they do buying off the judge and jury!

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timmyw

Whew! I'm glad to hear that Apple's President is now legal. I was afraid this case was gonna set a legal precedent.

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your friendly internet-based grammar troll.

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solidtran

bribing the judge and jury really pays off in court...

FUCK YOU APPLE!

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kuebel33

This was an all around awful trial. Solid Samsung evidence get's thrown out. Apple gets a win pretty much based on the same type of evidence that Samsung had, but it was not thrown out. The jury spent 3 days deliberating something that should have taken much much more time.

Apple is annoying as shit. Look, I have an iPad and use it often, but damn man...I can't wait until some company comes around and guts them.

Even their post trial statement reeks of self grandiose and egotism.

If I draw a rectangle with rounded corners on some paper will I get sued?

The legal system failed miserably here. I really hope this get's tossed out.

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LMP

I wonder what Samsung would have to change to make their phone legal?

I can't imagine it would be much.

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Jox

The corners. Less round.

-Jox

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jrd417

I may be mistaken but I thought Apple bought a lot of parts from Samsung. It seems to me that if I'm correct that Samsung should just do what the oil companies do and triple the cost to Apple for the parts they need.

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h e x e n

Dear apple,

Please fuck off and die.

Thanks, your pals.

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Eagle70ss

The side-by-side picture used in the article looks very misleading...The Galaxy is actually much larger..

IPHONE 4 specs:
L,W,D = 115.2 mm, 58.6 mm, 9.3 mm

Samsung Galaxy S
L,W,D = 122 mm, 64mm, 9.9 mm

This looks like a more accurate pic...

http://www.2-soft.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s.png

Please correct if phone model or specs wrong...

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4nsicDave

I have owned a pre-paid flip phone for six years and I am perfectly happy with it. At work I often hear the same people who bust on me for not having upgraded to a smart phone bitching about how their iphones, Androids, Windows phones, whatever, don’t get reception or don’t work properly – I open my flip phone and offer it to each of them every time and they finally shut up. (More iphone users seem to complain more often than the others.) Then I ask how much they pay a month to piss and moan to each other versus actually making phone calls and how long their indentured servitude to their beloved device and its so-called service provider will last. Just based on this experience alone, not to mention this bullsh-t going on in the courts, smart is not an adjective I would attribute to these devices or their ownership. What good is having a phone when you can’t make a simple phone call? When my flip phone finally dies, I’ll buy another flip phone. I don’t foresee buying into the rampant techno-fetishism and becoming obligated to any of these A--hole companies any time soon.

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stradric

Smart phones don't get any worse reception than a flip phone, and your anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Also, you're complaining about "techno fetishism" on a personal computing site that routinely features such.

No one really needs even a cell phone to survive. We did it for hundreds of thousands of years. You bragging that you're better because you don't own a smart phone is kind of funny. I'm imagining a guy older than you bitching how he's better because he doesn't own a cell phone... or a land line... or a TV. You're a luddite. You should accept it and stop trying to convince yourself that you're making the right choice through comments on the internet.

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4nsicDave

Hey Stradic,
Your presumptions are way off. You obviously mistook humor, sarcasm and hyperbole interjected in an observation and mild rant as bragging, complaining and an argument that I wasn’t making. I am an avid technology enthusiast and PC builder and visit this website almost daily for the useful information on hardware /software innovations and availability – endeavors a luddite would hardly participate in. What you should accept is the fact that many people have many different opinions and use different literary means to express them. If you allow yourself to get irked by someone’s opinion, so much so that you are compelled to respond, be sure you understand what they are saying and make the right choice of vocabulary and context in your comments on the internet. Lighten up.

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chop_slap

Comsumers are so dumb, that they won't care. They will just buy what their popular friends tell them to buy, not what smart people suggest. My kid got a new iPod yesterday. First, Apple wants my credit card to get free apps from the Apple store, secondly, the Apple Store is "under maintenance" and is still down as of right now. I called Apple store and they gave me the runaroud for why the Apple site is still down and told me it was my computer's fault. We get this much crap for almost $400??? You know, I didn't even get this much bad service calling Microsoft India in the XP days. Congratulations Apple and Apple buyers for screwing the world out of better product.

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djrebelion

I don't understand why it was ok for Apple to steal from Prada but they say Samsung stole from apple who stole from Prada. Rather confusing I must say. If anyone should be getting sued it's Apple.

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ScytheNoire

Jury full of people who don't understand innovation or how bad the current patent system is. This is just going to set back innovation yet again and do nothing to progress technology. Apple are nothing but patent trolls.

The entire patent system needs to be reworked, if not completely destroyed. It's so far gone that it may be beyond saving.

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tekknyne

Oh I see, you made the same mistake I did: thinking American Capitalism is more about innovation and creativity than preserving the power structures that are already in place.

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DR_JDUBZ

america has officially screwed itself over with the ruling. not that it affects me, I buy my phones used-unlocked and rooted, being locked to a carrier is bullshit.

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RtDK

Y'know something? I'd buy a FLIP PHONE before I resort to Apple's piece of shit device....

They run sweatshops in China and try to stop competition in whatever way they can, and they think I'll ever give them a dime? I hope Microsoft sues their asses off for taking the mouse and implementing it on Macs.

I really DO want viruses to start invading Apple products you overgrown sack of dickfruit!

FUCK! YOU!

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stradric

I'm very anti-Apple, but they don't run sweat shops. I'm not even sure you can consider Foxconn a sweatshop, and Apple certainly doesn't run it. I'm also willing to bet Foxconn has some of the best of the worst working conditions in all of China manufacturing. And to claim that you don't own products made in China would be a bold move. I doubt you could even use a computer these days without some component having been made in China.

So if you're looking to criticize Apple, the "sweat shop" argument is not a good one. There are plenty of other perfectly good arguments against buying Apple products -- not least of which is their behavior as a company or their overzealous fanbase.

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vkt62

Apple didn't get the mouse from Microsoft. The mouse was invented by some people at Stanford and Xerox implemented it in its GUI OS which Apple stole the idea from. Microsoft just stole the idea from Apple and came out with the OS.

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brettskiness

"overgrown sack of dickfruit."

Bahaha I just woke up, read this, and now my day is made XD.

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The Second Comi...

Chiken Pants is wondering of Apple's "legal president" will know what to do with the 'precedent' the jury set o.O

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Neufeldt2002

Everyone should read this: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390

It is on the verdict and how there is major problems with it and the way the jury came to it's verdict. This case is far from over.

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thefuzz4

That is a very good find indeed. Very interesting. I would have to say that this fight is long from over.

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Modroneman

Nice find! Very interesting indeed!

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Emgtek

LOL @ Samsung.

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weaslem32

Apple: Kettle, this is pot, over.

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Kinetic

"At Apple, we value originality and innovation"
"we value originality and innovation"
"originality and innovation"

Hahaaahha! Good one, I can't wait to hear about how fair their pricing structure is too.

Like Samsung said, the real losers are us, the consumers. Oh, and all the companies who made rotary phones that looked exactly alike but never thought to capitalize on suing the shit out of each other over it.

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Modroneman

It's surprising that samsung did not use this in their defense. I own an iPhone and I do not agree with the rulings! Apple is being ridiculous!

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tkid124

I have a theory, it is simply my personal guess as to why Apple is involved in this lawsuit. They aren't opposed to the money, noone I know has turned down a Billion $, yet it's not about the money, they are seeking to cut Android out of the market, why because they created the market, and have every right to enjoy the market they created, however they have one big problem.

The US Patent system is designed to benefit inventors of an original creation. The iPhone may have been cute, it broke through the barrier between smartphones and cool / hip. But there is nothing about it that I see as fundamentally different from it's predecessors.
Just a few off the top of my Wikipedia: HP iPaq, Palm, BlackBerry, that whole PDA thing. I would even go so far as to say that the idea of combining a PDA with a phone requires little if any original thought and is so obvious that it should not be able to get a patent.

Here is the end story, Apple created a great market, they didn't come up with an original device. Hence they should have few if any patents on it, but they do, even one for a white device, see D530,340.

That means we have a broken system. Fix the system Congress.

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vkt62

Apple didn't create the market. Nokia and palm already had an app system. The difference being that Apple gave us permission to develop the apps while the previous companies locked them to their own design teams.

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warptek2010

I take issue with the contention that Apple "created" the market. I would say they certainly manipulated it, but created it? That's stretching.

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don2041

The way I see it is the problem is not so much the legal system as it is the patent system. The jury had to rule on law. Apple owns the patents. The jury has to go by the letter of the law. The problem here is Apple should never have been granted those patents in the first place. Drag the patent office down and Lynch it.

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carage

The same lunatics at the DoJ who thought breaking up M$ is a good idea should apply the same standards and take a look at Apple's practices too...

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