Apple Founder Steve Jobs Is Dead

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lindabrad42

that was the biggest upset of 2011
video surveillance

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BrianXP7

The thing Microsoft (nor Gordon) would never wish on their biggest competitor.

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twisteduser1

to all the haters on this forum get off steve jobs was a visionary and a damn good one at that he helped make a good amount of the tech we have today as well as inspire people to make the tech of today. he should be respected it doesnt matter what his religion was or anything he was one of the best visionaries of our time and if you have shit to say about him keep it to yourself you fucking trolls

RIP STEVE JOBS

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Wily_One

Funny.  You say "rest in peace", but he has already reincarnated:
Jobs’ New Job

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sheds

That is a big loss to the world of technology and electronics. He is still young. I hate cancer! - Sheds

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ifdefmoose

Steve Jobs was a visionary, who had a huge inflence on the personal computer and electronics businesses.

He was also a dick. As opposed to acidic, who, appears (from his comments here) to be just a dick.

 

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ess100

Uncle Steve has merely followed his company's policy of planned (forced) obsolescence.

I thinks they calls it Karmic justice. Appropriate in several ways, don't you think?

I guess "An apple a day keeps the doctor away" doesn't always work.

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acidic

apple sucks and their god is dead. let the sheep mourn their leader. who cares ? people die everyday, its just that this douchebag was "rich and powerful" so he was almighty. im surprised the itunes store didnt have an app for immortality since its the only hip place that has everything. im coding a new app now for it. im torn on the name though, should it be  iDEAD or iDIED ?

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Caboose

Wow, the internet brings out all kinds doesn't it. Why don't you head down to his funeral and say that. Come on. You can say it via a message board, but I bet, you can't say it in person to his family and friends.

Have some fscking respect, you waste of space!

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acidic

yeah it does bring out all kinds of people, especially alot like yourself that thinks everything should be handed to you and that you should bow down to someone because they are rich and "powerful." if it wasnt for wasting a couple days of vacation from work and missing my daughter, id gladly hit up his funeral and speak my mind. unlike you, ive fought 2 wars for my country and have earned my right to freedom of speech. respect is something im all out of due to it having to be EARNED not giving away. so yeah

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Caboose

I'm not American; I've also got a spinal problem which prevents me from serving. I would gladly serve my country, but unfortunately due to a physical problem that cannot be correct, I am unable to do so, however I do serve in every other way possible.

And just because you served 2 tours, doesn't mean you have the right to be an insensitive dick about it. If we are all in arms over WBC protesting the funerals of fallen soldiers, then why should your comments be allowed? Yes, I know they are 2 different extremes, but they are both "freedom of speech" related.

I'd have thought that doing what you do, would have also have a little more respect for people. But I guess I was wrong.

BTW, what was your MOS?

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pccard51

You ask "who cares" about another man's death but you're here reading about it and commenting.  In fact, you were the first commenter. 

 

But, I understand...you're outraged that other people feel compassion for a dead human being that they admired.  HOW DARE THEY! 

 

Anyways...He was so young, with so much more to do. I’m going to share my tribute photo at remembersteve@pixt.com. You can do it too, just attach your pic to the email, title is subject line and body is your text. It all goes on the memorial wall at www.pixt.com/remembersteve

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Engelsstaub

You can stop trolling and baiting in this comment section any time now. You aren't coding anything. 

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markstrelecki

Steve was a genius who no longer has to tolerate the trailer park pundits and the holier-than-thou haters.

More than a few of whom are in residence in this thread.

It's called anger management, folks - get some. While there's still time.

God rest your soul, Steve Jobs. We'll meet again. Someday.

 

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Nimrod

Excuse me but if ANY ONE had a "holier-than-thou" attitude it was Jobs.

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turbogamer1000

a true visionary

 

R.I.P Steve Jobs

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bpstone

Rest in peace Steve Jobs.

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mgalletly

Oh.  Sad Mac.

 

 

What, too soon?

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acidic

maybe if he wasn't an atheist, he could look down from the iClouds. maybe i shouldn't have said that, apple is probably telling their lawyers now

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Caboose

*facepalm*

He was a buddhist. And keep any religious crap out of this!

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jesse_n_sf

you keep out the religous crap too. you are no better.

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Caboose

wtf? What religious crap? I was correcting someone, not going on some rant about how if only he had believed in some random diety this wouldn't have happened.

Sod off!

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Ntldr

RIP Steve...I know you will be missed and your innovation in the industry will be long lasting. 

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Exarkun1138

There are some who calim Jobs "rescued" Apple. In reality, the man responsible for saving Apple is Bill Gates. Microsoft gave an infusion of 150 MILLION dollars to Apple back in the late 90's when Apple was on the brink of closing its doors. It was that 150 million that led to the iPod, and THAT is what turned Apple's fortunes around. So, as Jobs did with The Woz, he took the work of another and claimed it as his own and ran with it. So, any Apple Fan who says Steve Jobs saved Apple is wrong. They need to thank Bill Gates every day they use their iDevices or Macs, and never forget that Wozniak was the "true genius" behind the Apple Computers of the 80's, and started the technology that propelled Apple forward, not Jobs.

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someuid

Giving credit to Microsoft for the creation of the iPod, while Microsoft currently can't figure out if the Zune is dead or living product, is pretty far stretch.  Actually, it isn't a stretch at all.

It is a pure fabrication.

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TechLarry

Completely, totally wrong.  You read too many pundit stories back then.

The $150 million investment was more a publicity stunt than anything else.  It was designed to show support for the Apple Macintosh by Microsoft, mainly their Macintosh development team.

At the time of that investment Apple had over 2 Billion (yes, with a B) in the bank and had NO long-term debt.

It didn't need the money.  Financially, it didn't mean shit.

And as for the "Taking the work of another", I assume you are talking about Xerox PARC.  Well, not suprisingly you are wrong again.  They didn't steal anything from Xerox PARC.  They were INVITED there to look at the technology, and they were encouraged to develop it further because the PARC center knew it would not be pushed much futher in their labs.  They wanted it to live, and it did.

I worked with Apple throughout the 90's, so I have a pretty good idea what really transpired.

 

RIP Steve.  I didn't agree with everything you did, but you sure left your mark on society and we're better off for it.

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mesiah

Lay off the kool-aid Larry. While I am not going to credit Microsoft with the creation of the ipod, there is no doubt that gates saved Apple. You can deny it all you want, but those of us who were actually in the tech industry at the time remember that Apple was a sinking ship. At one point you could only buy them directly from the manufacturer. All retailers stopped selling Apple products.

As for the "publicity stunt", that must have been one expensive stunt. Money did indeed exchange hands. And Microsoft agreed to buy a large share of Apple stock and hold it for a predetermined amount of time.

I'm not going to argue the whole Apple stole this or that. I will be the first to admit that innovation begins with building on the ideas of others. If we didn't have the ability to take others ideas and make them better we would still be hunting our food with sticks and rocks.

While I dispised Steve Jobs, there is no doubt that he was an influential figure in modern technology, for better or for worse. There is no doubt the tech industry will suffer from his loss.

RIP 

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Nimrod

hes not talking about xerox way to write an essay for nothing you sound like an idiot drooling fan boy. go back to mac|life

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TechLarry

Don't own a Mac.  I just can't stand to see haters spew bullshit because it makes them feel important.

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Exarkun1138

You say it's bullshit. I really think it's more like you're full of it. Nuff Said! Have a wonderful day!

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caseybiggsconnor

One of the great innovator. Without his visions and innovations maybe theirs no one out there competing and tryin' to be better than what him and apple had to offer. Look at us right now, PC, our android phones capable of everything just the same way as apple products, whom i guess the one who polished what we're using right now.

Its how our gadgets compete with his products visions and innovations that made our tech changed what they are from this very moment. "A great mind to compete with"...

You'll relive in us Steve Jobs - Rest In Peace...

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vig1lant3

There are a lot of well wishers here, that's good to see, and of course well deserved.  I see that there are also plenty of conspiracy theorists, mostly driven by inaccurate facts and hearsay.  If nothing else, conspiracy theorists always stay true to form.  Plenty of inaccurate facts in these posts as well. 

My first computer was an Apple II.  Most of the credit for that particular innovation and design should go to the other Steve (Wozniak) to be honest.  The Apple I wasn't much more than a circuit board, keyboard, and monitor, built for the homebrew computer club that both frequented.  Woz was more the innovator and designer, Jobs was the visionary motivated to bring those innovations to the masses.  His motivation paid off.  I believe that after the success of the Apple II Jobs was worth about $100 million by age 25.  Not bad for a kid that only spent 6 months in college.

My 2nd computer was an Apple IIGS.  That experience in computing always reminds me of the many missteps Jobs made along the way.  It brings to mind marketing and design disasters like Apple's Lisa or Newton.  It brings to mind the bad business decision of trying to maintain two seperate computing platforms (Apple II and Macintosh) that were incompatible with each other, by a company that was already playing second fiddle to IBM's PC and the sunami of PC clones that ensued.  It reminds me that the cumulative effect of many mistakes in the early years eventually led to Jobs' dismissal from a company he co-founded.

I also remember the era not too long after Jobs was brought back on board as CEO.  Apple had already launched the iPod and was just getting ready to unveil the iTunes store with support from the music industry that was at that time unheard of, at least with regard to any kind of digital distribution model.  Artists were actually preparing exclusive songs for iTune release in an effort to help popularize an online (paid) distribution method.  Remember, the idea of digital release was met with much skepticism by record executives who couldn't get the Napster pirate ship out of their memories fast enough.  Steve Jobs was a different leader the second time around though, and he was always a marketing genius.  At that time Apple stock was only $12 a share but you could really feel the momentum building.  Missteps and divided focus seemed to be a thing of the past.  It really showed that Jobs would not be denied this time around, and within a few years Apple stock had reached nearly $200 a share.

We probably all know how Apple parlayed the success (and profits) of the iPod, and iTunes into R&D missions for the iPhone and iPad.  Integration is a big key for Apple these days, and I when I see that, I also see the influence of a man that learned from his mistakes early on.  There would be no more divided Apple II / Macintosh fiascoes in Apple 2.0.  Instead, all their products are designed to integrate seamlessly with each other, and to the technically illeterate that is both a blessing and a selling point.

Of course I don't give much credit to Steve Jobs for the actual engineering of any of these products.  He was never the engineer.  I can see him sitting in design meetings and predicting how people would use these devices though, and that is just as important.  His fingerprints are all over the marketing side of the company as well, as is his propensity for over the top product unveilings at press conferences.

It would seem that some folks put the man on a pedestal; others seem to want to villify him for various reasons.  I'm not an Apple fanboy.  That Apple IIGS was my last Apple product, and so I'm not even really partial to the company.  I will however say that I can admire a man who is willing to learn from his mistakes in an effort to not only be a better person, but also a better leader of others.  It is something that we should all strive for.  I'm not sure that Apple would have survived if Jobs wasn't brought back for a second iteration.  At the time it was a company struggling to hold a sliver of market share of worldwide computer sales, and there was a distinct lack of vision and direction.  Steve Jobs managed to change all of that.

Many people will focus on Apple's recent string of successes with the iPod, iPhone, and iPad, and deservedly so.  Those products have helped to change the face of mobile computing for ever.  But Jobs 2.0 also worked to re-design the computer business too.  Hell Intel is still having fits trying to get vendors to release laptops that can compete with the Macbook Air.  Ultrabook anyone?  He never gave up on the core business and he steered his company away from mediocrity and built it back up, eventually reaching levels of profitability investors had never seen.  Apple is a tech giant today because of the vision and leadership of Steve Jobs.  He achieved more in half a lifetime than 99% of us could achieve if we were given 100 years.  Love him or hate him, you have to respect him for what he was and what he contributed to society and the future of computing.

My condolences go out to the family.  It is a sad day, but not entirely unexpected given his persistent health problems.  In a time of mourning, I think it is in bad taste to try to villify a man for not being great.  Rather I think it is more fair to recognize him for being only a man, but one who did great things.  I think we would all probably be quite happy in life if we could achieve half as much.

RIP Steve Jobs, you will be both missed and remembered.

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phoenixjc

Thank you for this comment, it shows that there are people out there that still look at things objectively and fairly.  Very well written.

While I have never been a fan of Apple (quite the opposite really,) I have to acknowledge the contributions to computing as a whole that have been driven by Job's Apple.  I do admire a man who knows how to learn from his mistakes, and for this I am iSad.

RIP Steve Jobs

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Engelsstaub

I care and read your comment here with interest. Thanks for sharing :)

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Nimrod

Your post starts off saying " I see that there are also plenty of conspiracy theorists, mostly driven by inaccurate facts and hearsay.  If nothing else, conspiracy theorists always stay true to form.  Plenty of inaccurate facts in these posts as well. "

Then you go on to talk about your person computing experience. Im sorry but no one gives a shit about about your computer history and it has nothing to do with steves personal life. Unless your one of those idiot slave psychotics who thinks that you have some sort of personal connection or relationship to Jobs.

Lets be honest. Jobs was heralded as being a humanitarian. Hes hardware was built at Foxxcon factories with the hiest suicide rate in most of the world. The workers who make Apple devices are not payed a living wage.

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someuid

"hiest"

I've seem some bad mistakes in writing, like mixing up their and they're, your and you're, and no punctuation, but spelling highest as hiest is really bad.  I mean, that isn't even a simple keyboard mistake or a grammatical misunderstanding.

Why should you care? Because I didn't bother to fully understand the point you are making.  If you put so little effort into spelling, your opinions are probably just as sloppily and lazily constructed.

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Nimrod

it was a spell check mistake you idiot fuk off

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tekknyne

Well .... thank you for putting things into perspective.

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TechLarry

Apple does not own Foxconn.  Foxconn is a Chinese owned company.  At least a dozen other companies have their products built at Foxconn.

Apple is a customer of Foxconn.  Notghing more, nothing less.

 

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tekknyne

Do some research chief. Foxconn powers everything Apple. Hop on newegg and you'll see, Foxconn does make motherboards and has other contracts, but their biggest contracts are Apple products from the Iphone to the Ipad. Google "foxconn apple" and click the first article that comes up

"why is apple nervous about foxconn"... and read some of the testimony from the factory workers. Then the company has the audacity to charge ridiculous prices to appeal to only the most ignorant and uniformed consumerist Americans. To me that sounds like total exploitation and Capitalism at its worst.

 

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TechLarry

Oh, then you kicked in the typical Hater lanquage taught in Hate-Apple School:

"Then the company has the audacity to charge ridiculous prices to appeal to only the most ignorant and uniformed consumerist Americans. To me that sounds like total exploitation and Capitalism at its worst."

I think we're pretty much done here.

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TechLarry

Show me proof that Apple has any financial interest in Foxconn.  My statement stands.

Apple is a CUSTOMER of Foxconn.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, and here's a partial list of other companies Foxconn builds for:

Acer

Amazon

Asus

Asrock

Intel

Cisco

HP

Dell

Nintendo

Nokia

Microsoft

MSI

Motorola

Sony Ericsson

Vizio

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Nimrod

Are you fucking retarded? Their shit is MADE at Fox. Straw man FTL dick head. Nice attempt at deflecting but we all know the truth. It was covered here on this very site.

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TechLarry

Right.  It's manufactured for Apple at Foxconn.  Just like dozens of other companies.

Like I said, they are a CUSTOMER of Foxconn, not the owners.

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Nimrod

you have got the be the biggest fucking idiot in the hole god damn world

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RaptorJohnson

tl;dr

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Gezzer

Love him or loathe him, we lost a technology icon today.

Like many I was never a fan of the iCult and all it stood for. Apple products have always been closed systems where personal freedom and choice was often denied the end user. They took computer technology and made it both art (to a degree) and appliances at the same time while asking a pretty penny in the process. Over all stable and dependable systems for the non power user who didn't really care too much what was under the hood and at what cost. But more what fancy tricks it could do to amaze, delight, and dazzle them.

With that said Mr. Jobs was a bonafide genius with a uncanny ablity to know what people wanted and would want in the future. Then deliver the product at just the right time to a fan fair of trumpets that would make everyone sit up and take notice. Yes Apple may of stumbled once in awhile but under Mr. Job's leadership they brought excitment to what can be a fairly "dry" enterprise for any one not a rabid tech junkie. As others have mentioned many of the current tech toys we all love to play with might never of seen the light of day with out Steve Jobs and Apple. Either by creating the market segment with a new product or breathing life into a stagnant market with a product that captured most peoples imagination. Mr. Jobs and Apple could not be rivaled

Say what you will about the man Steve Jobs, because after all he was just a man not a saint (no matter what some iCult members will say) and far from perfect. But never let it be said that Mr. Jobs did not impact the lives of most of us and that in the long run we are not poorer for the loss.

R.I.P. Steve Jobs

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Wily_One

Correction:  Jobs CO-founded Apple Computer.  Without Wozniak there was nothing.  Woz was the true engineer.  Jobs was the marketeer/businessman.

 

P.S. Regarding his douchebaggery, read the story of Atari's Breakout game.  He got Woz to design it for him (since he lacked the skill) and promised to split his earnings with him for the help. So Woz completed the design using the fewest chips possible, and went 4 days without sleep to get it done in time.  Jobs told him he earned $750 and paid Woz his half ($375) as promised.

Many years later the truth came out that Jobs was in fact paid $5,000 for the work.  Woz would have done it for his friend for free because that's the kind of person he is. Yeah, what a great friend...

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triclops41

it is very strange to me how "great men" can get away with doing things in their personal lives that we would disown an uncle or brother for.

 

These are not internet rumors, these are facts about Jobs,

he refused paternity and interaction with his daughter for the first 2 years of her life

he was a jerk to underlings 

he used his money and power to jump ahead of others on the donor list

he did things for/with apple that only he could accomplish and other companies could not catch up

 

I wonder if, in 20 years, Jobs will be remembered as some avucular genius, like what we think of Edison...oh wait, wasn't Edison kind of a jerk too?

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someuid

There are several Wall Street Executives laughing at how nieve you are.

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