AOC Now Shipping a Virtually Borderless 23-inch IPS Monitor

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KrisPC

This monitor doesn't seem to differ much from other "borderless" monitors - it has extremely thin physical bezel but glassy part has black edges. Hopefully in a few years we can have real borderless monitors.

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Morete

No 1.6K glossy 30"? Oh well.... :( I'll just continue to save up my nickels and dimes for when they come out with a glossy 30" 4K TV to double as a PC monitor. And people wonder why PC OEM's are decreasing in sales.

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BHawthorne

Shame on this "journalist" for not doing proper due diligence and Google Image searching the model for a real photo of the bezel size. They used Photoshoped marketing photos as the basis of the article and thought that was the true bezel size. No journalistic integrity with this site. The content of the story is false when it comes to bezel size marketing.

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_-slick-_

Looks pretty accurate to me.

http://www.amazon.com/AOC-i2367Fh-23-Inch-Screen-Monitor/dp/B009V8F700

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BHawthorne

Note that pic in the Amazon marketing photos are Photoshopped in. Google Image search and you'll find a foreign language site that has actual pictures showing content on the display with significantly more bezel real estate. They're cheating by saying the bezel is only 2mm. There is a lot of dead black glass bezel area around the viewable LCD -- significantly more than in the Amazon doctored PR photos.

Those that think that this might be the ultimate display bezel size for AMD Eyefinity or NVIDIA Surround will be sorely disappointed in the misdirection.

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Gezzer

How about a link to the site with the pictures in question?
Would go a long way to proving your point.

Okay did the reverse image search myself, and guess what dude? Your right. First off had to got to Annatech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6468/aocs-i2367fh-thin-virtually-borderless-and-ips
Then click on a link at the bottom from an update:
http://t17.techbang.com/topics/17294-new-equipment-company-aoc-i2367fh-super-eye-right-out-of-the-box
And sure enough it's a lot wider.

On the other hand I'd be more PO'd at AOC then Amazon or MaxPC. They only go with the info they get from AOC. It was nothing but pure luck that some un-boxing pics made it on to the web. AOC on the other hand is playing fast and loose on this one. Then again I've never really seen AOC as one of the better tech companies, but maybe that's just me.

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BHawthorne

"On the other hand I'd be more PO'd at AOC then Amazon or MaxPC. They only go with the info they get from AOC. It was nothing but pure luck that some un-boxing pics made it on to the web. AOC on the other hand is playing fast and loose on this one. Then again I've never really seen AOC as one of the better tech companies, but maybe that's just me."

It's a journalist's responsibility to do due diligence when a claim is made to fact check the claim. Never trust anything out of a PR marketing department. Amazon would of course use their stock PR photos. That's to be expected, but a news site has the responsibility to do background and information checks for consistency and truthfulness. No one fact checks anything anymore in the news. Anyone one blog will make things up and you'll get a circle jerk for every other tech website referring to each other as the source when there is no fact checking done at all.

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xRadeon

http://xkcd.com/331/

Calm down dude. :)

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BHawthorne

It's only cute when people are trolling, when it's true it just means that you didn't see the photos. :P

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Hilarity

Shit rubbish. You want a great monitor get an IPS Ultrasharp. The U2412M is the starting point.

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And3rs0nTX

What I want to know is why monitors haven't been made with no borders since day 1

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Gezzer

You actually can't make them completely without a bezel.
You need a certain amount on the edge for where the electronics connect to the LCD panel. How much I can't say I guess it depends on the panel.
This video will show what you have with a bare LCD panel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV5EiVHKWR0
You'll notice at the 5min mark how there's still a bit of metal on the edge of the panel.
I'm not sure how any phones or MP3 players make their lcds pretty much borderless, might have something to do with the smaller screen size.

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NineteenEleven

ehh that hook thing kind of sucks. Guess ill be making a custom monitor stand.

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MrFluffyThing

Why would I spend extra money for a monitor with a thin bezel when:

1) Near-bezel-free devices are sought after for multi-monitor setups, yet this monitor lacks VESA mounting options.

2) If you are to use this in a multi-monitor setup, the input/option buttons are on the right side of the screen behind the monitor. These would be blocked by any screen but the far right.

3) The inputs stick straight out the back. You won't be able to mount this flush against the wall without cutting into the wall, even if you discover an alternative for the VESA mount.

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Obsidian

Exactly.

Great achievement here AOC, horrible execution and a fundamentally flawed understanding of where the bulk VOLUME sales come into play for those using multiple monitors.

No matter where they place physical buttons, if they are on the rear, or the side, in some configurations they will be hard to get to. The buttons would have to be capacitive-style like on the Dell U2410 units I'm using, it can be done, but it'll add to the price.

The VESA mount is a needed standard here. And what's with the 1080 resolution, I want my 1200 vertical pixels back. Or even better, I'd like to see some home monitors with something beyond even 1920x1200. If it can be done on tablets, laptops and cell phones, let's start seeing some increased pixel density on the displays I spend the most time looking at.

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LatiosXT

On top of this more than likely being a TN panel, doing a 6-panel EyeFinity setup would get on my nerves when I notice the colors are shifting.

And as much as I want high PPI monitors in desktops, the average distance you sit away from a monitor versus a tablet/smartphone is such that I might be able to appreciate the smoother curves, but I'm not sure if I'd miss it.

Mind you I own displays at 145PPI, 220PPI, and 340PPI

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Cregan89

The article states it as an IPS display in the first paragraph.

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Obsidian

It would appear there is no way to mount this to a VESA mount. The image of the back clearly shows some absurd hook thing for the proprietary base.

If any monitor company cares to read what people actually use multiple monitors for, it's mostly for business, where workstations are using 2 to 6 screens all together on a few monitor arms or a more structural monitor mount system for the 4 and 6 - monitor configurations.

The thin bezel is fantastic, and I applaud them for this achievement. Something that neither Dell nor Apple have been able to do yet. But the lack of VESA mount is a huge downfall for potential sales numbers, and the bezel on the bottom should be able to be eliminated too, or perhaps support inversion via hardware toggle switch (spin the display 180-degrees, if there was a VESA mount this could be achieved) so that a 2 x 3 grid could be realized without the bottom bezel interruption.

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Neufeldt2002

Completely agree.

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chronium

It's about damn time someone did this. The large bezel has been the main reason why I have never considered a multi monitor setup now the only thing holding me back is money.

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weavil

think i'd prefer a catleap@120hz

droool

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Nixon

I want one. o_o

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pastorbob

"a 50,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio."

Come on Paul! It's bad enough when the manufacturers spew meaningless dribble as tech specs, but you should know better.

On another note, does this monitor have tilt capability? It's hard to tell from the pic.

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jason2393

I wonder how three of these will look in eyefinity?

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lostcause64

I was thinking the same, but with six of them...

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JakeDaSnake

Are you running 2x3? Might be hard with these, I see no holes for mounting brackets.

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