Anonymous Reveals Nude Pics Of BART Spokesman Linton Johnson

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duncansil

Another reason to not visit San Fransisco

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abowlofsoda

Notice the more plugged in we get, the more authority and governments and the like gain more control over our freedoms.

I don't think it will be long until we realize that these hacker groups will be (or end up being) the ones we root for to gain our freedoms back.   You need to realize that this is only the beginning...   many many more hacker groups will rise (and fall) and time goes on.

Operation Mayhem!

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jgrimoldy

The problem is, though, that this hacker group is full of shit.  BART did not take away any freedoms.  *THEY* paid for and run the equipment that offers cell service while under the SF Bay in the trans-bay-tube.  In the interest of protecting all of the other passengers on the trains, they turned off the cell service under the bay.  They did not jam anything, nor did they infringe on anyone's right to free speech.  No, instead, they just turned off a service they were providing.

No freedoms were taken away.  To think otherwise is uninfomed.

In the larger sense, Anonymous does have a legitimate bitch when it comes to Oscar Grant being killed needlessly by officer Johannes Mehserle and then the officer mostly beating the rap.  If they really want to make a point, why not just pipe-bomb that dude's home and call it a day?  Why do they need to be such schmucks and pull other people (that may or may not care) into it?

 

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Ghok

Because it brings attention to their cause. If enough people care about their cause, they will support them, and not care about the disruption. If they don't, the group will become unpopular, and lose support. It's a pretty effective system.

I can't speak for Anonymous, but (sensible) people who had problems with BART shutting down cell phone service aren't saying they were repressing free speech or beyond their rights. They mearly had reservations about the fact that people wanted to protest the BART police, and BART decided to prevent this protest by flicking a switch. I'm not really sure how ethical that is. I think that's at least worth a discussion.

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TerribleToaster

If you post my personal information online so that you can bring my attention to a cause that otherwise has nothing to do with me, I sure as hell am not going to support you. What will happen is that I will care no more than I did before about whatever cause you had, but I will be royally pissed at you.

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Nimrod

No "They" do not pay for the service im verry sorry. It is included in the cost of operations that the people who use bart pay for.

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TerribleToaster

They are a train service, not a cell service. You pay to use their train, the cell system is not something they are contracted or otherwise obliged to give. When Comcast stops giving out free water ice, I don't go complaining that I pay my cable bill so I want my water ice.

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jgrimoldy

You make it sound like it's therefore a right.  I respectfully disagree.  As long as they're not jamming anything, they are breaking no laws.  You are not being *forced* to take BART thru the trans-bay-tube.  You could take a ferry and have cell service. 

You have no more of a right to underground cell phone service on BART than I have to fuck up your commute and risk *your* physical safety with my bullshit, misdirected, coordinated protest.

Besides, consider this:  Which inconvenience would *you* as a disinterested daily BART commuter would you rather suffer:  a 10-minute trans-bay-tube ride w/o cell service (oh NOES!) or a shut-down system (and no convenient alternative) because a small group of coordinated yahoos managed to stop a trian mid-tube?

Don't get me wrong, I am decidedly NOT pro-BART.  I AM decidedly anti-dirtbag-protester that wants to drag me into their bullshit.  I don't exactly support the bullshit monthly Critical Mass bicyclists in the city either.

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Nimrod

You gota pay to play. Have you ever thought about the fact that having service cut off when you normally expect it might be more of a disruption to the regular commuters than the protest would be? I dont think the the protesters  were planning on shutting down the trains.

People who board BART per their usual dont give a shit that they arnt being forced to use it if their pissed that their phones arnt working. It might not be THAT big of a deal, and in fact its not. But try telling that to some guy who just got on it that day expecting a call about his wifes baby or sick child. That might be kind of an extreme but im also quite sure they dont give a shit about every thing else.

Also, the dudes point about us being "plugged in" and the govs power over us is very true. Its also painfully obvious that the Feds are desperately trying to gain this power as they see the opportunity. Just look at the internet kill switch deal they have been talking about for evidence of that.

You seem obsessively fixated on whether or not the cell service is right to the point of dismissing ALL of your own liberty. I really dont care if its a right or NOT(even if did PAY for it personally!). The fact is people will live under as much tyranny as the put up with and i see no real reason for the authorities to be manipulating these situations except for political gain.

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jgrimoldy

Nimrod: You gota pay to play.  What the hell does that mean?

Nimrod: Have you ever thought about the fact that having service cut off when you normally expect it might be more of a disruption to the regular commuters than the protest would be?  Yes.  Yes, I have.  I don't think that 10 minutes w/o cell service would be as big of an inconvenience as a riot.  You see, I'm okay without being able to Tweet or Facebook every waking moment.  Really.

Nimrod: I dont think the the protesters  were planning on shutting down the trains. That's rather speculative, don't you think?  I don't know what they were planning to do.  It's highly likely that they weren't intending to physically hurt anybody.  Familiar with the term, "unintended consequences" ?  I never underestimate crazy or irrational.

Nimrod, you seem to have a wildly inflated sense of entitlement.

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TerribleToaster

From what I heard reported, the protestors were getting down on the tracks (which is rather dangerous).

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jgrimoldy

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Peanut Fox

If you're riding BART to get somewhere, and then you suddenly can't get there.  I think that's a bigger inconvinence than not getting a signal.  At the end of the day if people where that upset about they could just not use the BART system which would cost them actaully money and maybe just maybe someone would actaully care.

 

BART doesn't have to deal with the fact that their patrons personal information was made public.  Can anyone explain how that helped anybody?  By comparison the pipe bomb idea sounded good.  At least you'd have made a clear statement.

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Ghok

Oh, whatever. This reveal is embarrassing to the guy, sure, but it's just a wild party picture (with a penis in it). Not a big deal. I wish we as a public would stop caring about this kind of crap.

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jgrimoldy

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!? 

Though I don't agree one iota with Anonymoyus' position, this guy is a friggin idiot for allowing this photo to be taken.  Being a spokesman, he should have known better.  How on earth did he think this was a good idea?

Doing something this galactically dumb, he deserves the associated shame and the associated reprecussions. 

Good rule of thumb: Never pose for a photo that you don't want the world to see.

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TerribleToaster

I'd have to agree. Looks like one hell of a party.

Maybe if Anon stopping being a DICKS starts protesting in a useful manner they'll get invited to the next one.

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