Anonymous Begins Attacks on Spanish Police Websites

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schneider1492

if a group of people used pre-payed (payed for with cash of course) cell phones to carry out a DDoS attack, and they where all in public places do you think they could be tracked down? and even if they could do you think any legal action could be taken against them?

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lathao

This is only the tip of their iceberg. When the fundamental shift in consciousness needs to occur, they will be the ones fracturing the system holding us all back. The Mayans did it every era, their "2012 prophecy" is no exception. We need to change the way our civilization functions in order to survie, as is natural to all living things. Someone needs to break the cycle if those in power don't endorse this necessary change or force will be applied first, via electronic means; the number one thing wrong with our path.

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KenLV

The very definition of cyber-terrorism.

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AETAaAS

I would laugh my head off if after the first arrests, people were going to the Police website to see if there was any more news on the story, then the site just crashed due to traffic. :p

*Picture in the BBC offices; "the website is still down, chief!" "keep hitting F5, its bound to come up later, we have everyone in the department trying too!"

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schneider1492

LMFAO!

i can see the headlines now "police DDoS there own website!"

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erriwin

EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!

 

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AoN

This is my first post, here on MaximumPC, but I feel that it is a topic I must speak on.

When it comes to Anonymous, I have to take a side-step and watch from a wider viewpoint.  In the past, they've made several moves to benefit the everyday net-user, the everyday net-enthusiast, and those in a class all their own.  At the same time, how they go about what they do is illegal, regardless of where you're based at.

In regards to this newest of developments, I have to strongly disagree with their choice in actions.  My experience with hacking groups going against any level of police-force is that even if they win every battle they will only provoke a higher-level police-force with far better resources.  I can't speak for the level that Anonymous is truly capable of performing at, and I honestly don't want to know, but unless they can pull off a "this is the just action" in the face of the legal system, they are only going to be the cause of their own downfall.

I don't encourage hacking, and I certainly don't condon it, but I do understand that, in a world that is becoming ever more cyber-based, it is an evil that we must have, lest we lose ourselves to the wolves of cyberspace.  People like those in Anonymous are needed, but they must learn to restrict themselves before they are just another extinct breed, just like the first-generation hackers.

If anyone has another view on this, whether my opinion of Anonymous' actions or the lack of proper thought modern hackers give to what they do, please feel free to reply to this post.

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Ghok

I have defended Anonymous before, but I will not this time.

Anonymous should not target the police, but just continue to do what they do. The police are a distraction. The police are just doing their job, as what Anonymous is doing is illegal. If you look at the past targets of Anonymous, the Spanish police really don't fit in. Maybe they're confusing them with the Spanish inquisition?

However, I would also like to point out to the police that DoS attacks are mear mischief. Nothing more than that. Slap them with a small fine, and make them do some community service. It is not a major hacking crime. Now, if they police DO go hard on these guys, that might be worth a protest or two.

People below like Mr. Caps Lock scare me. Why on earth would you want to live somewhere where you could go to prison for disrupting a website?

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stevinp

You are free to protest a business by picketing outside, but it is illegal to stop customers from entering and exiting the establishment.  If it wasn't people who have no job, no where to be and nothing to do, could make the rest of us have no job, no place to be, and nothing to do.  DDoS attacts are the same thing just the high tech version.  Do you use online banking?  Would it be alright if someone hacked your banks online services and kept it down for days, weeks, months, or permanently?  The bank would lose a lot of business.  Like computers, what if they took down "Newegg".  Newegg is an online only store, if they are not online they are not making money.  No one can buy, no employees can work.  DDoS is a serious crime, it is not a joke.  Ever think the hackers have all this time to do this because they don't have any real jobs or responsibilities?  Maybe they are living off money made by selling stolen identity and credit card information.  Would it still be ok if it is your credit card.  What they are doing right now is no different than someone breaking in your house and stealing your stuff.  Stealing is stealing, high tech or not.  They are just going to make it worse for the rest of us. We might have to go to one time use credit and debit cards, change your password every day on every site where you use one etc.  The governments will get together to fight this, it will cost them time and money, your money to be precise, since governments don't actually have any money of their own!

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Ghok

Hi stevinp,

There are lots of forms of protest that are illegal, but none the less occur. You may have heard of sit-ins. They are designed to disrupt and be annoying. You may not like them. They are however, preferable to rising up with guns, in my opinion.

Never did I say that DoS attacks should be legal, however, knocking out a site for a few hours is an inconvenience. It is not the end of the world. I guess we disgaree on that.

I never said anything about thinking that stealing a credit card was in anyway alright (nor do I condone any of the other hypothetical exaggerations you brought up). I was responding only to this case. Of course any major hacking crimes should be dealt with. This is not one of them.

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schmitty6633

Boo hoo! A police website offline for a couple of hours. I doubt anyone even noticed. 

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draconis123

I didn't know police had websites. I found this really interesting.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

I'd like to see all hackers, especially these, in prison with hardened criminals, getting their &$%@ pushed in every single day for the rest of their lives.

Can you DDoS Bubba while he's pounding your lilly-white ass?

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Gezzer

So after they (who ever they are) turned on the computer for you. Showed you the mouse and keyboard. Explained how they worked. Gave you a crash course in every day use english. After all that how long did it take you to piece together that example of red neck thinking?

Dude yes, hackers (well actually Crackers) can be a PITA, and many of them dabble in waters they shouldn't. But putting them in with Maximum security prisoners? One of the major problems is it's like a college for criminals. So lets create more contacts between hackers and harded criminals so that they can cook up more schemes to wreck havok on the rest of us.

Smart, real smart.

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Recidivist

/facepalm. You make me cry for humanity.

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oldobamaliar

You are obviously a Primate posing as a human. GO EAT YOUR BANANA and fling poo at humans with your coal black simian ass.

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jth

You do know that humans are primates, right?

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Nah. Must be one of those genius hackers.

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Ashton2091

lol, yeah....based on the previous articles...i kinda seen this coming. 

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dalant

When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.

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KenLV

And what is it when the people fear the people?  Anarchy?  Mob rule?  Whatever you want to call it, it sucks.

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JMG760

+1

Thomas Jefferson quote. Good to know people are catching on to tyranny.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
 -John F. Kennedy
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Knowledge + Humility = Respect
Arrogance + Ignorance = Rudeness

 

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

You must be a freedom fighter. When you're not playing CoD and pleasuring yourself over Internet pr0n.

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TheQ

If only capslock caused cancer....

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level1paladin

PC gamers don't play CoD noob.

Real men don't make usernames in all caps.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

noob? Oh, that's real men, for sure. I can smell the Axe body wash from here.

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dalant

what is CoD?

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Maktaka

Doncha love wildly simplistic but oh-so-quotable viewpoints like this? Any system of civilization based on fear, whether by the people in or out of the government, is NOT one founded on liberty.

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mrclean816

amen

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tony2tonez

why cant liberty be like Chrome. Open Source! 

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