Android Boss Thinks Siri is a Bad Idea

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Mobius

In Ontario Canada, and maybe other provinces, it is now illegal to talk on a phone, text or play games while driving.  While this makes complete sense to me, however I still see some people texting and talking while driving, all the while swerving in their lane.  The only way to get around this law is to use complete hands free, like an ear piece. With Siri built right into the phone, then the user can still text without even looking at the phone.

But at the same time, I do think if you are driving, you need to have your full focus on the road and driving.  Put the phone down.  Your friends can wait until you pull over or get where you are going.

And I have an iPhone4, I just dont think I will get the 4s just for that feature.

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housry23

What some of you may not know is that an Android app developer has actually made an app available in the Market that is very similar to Siri. It is called Iris...get it? Siri backwards! It is not as polished as Siri and really not even close, but it does work and it works pretty well. It is in early Alpha stages, but publically available via the Android Market and has been updated several times since releasing. I think the developers released it as a joke at first, but it took off and now is very popular, so they are actually working on getting it to work. It's actually pretty smart. I asked Iris if she would have my babies and she said "No. Because Obama is in office". you can check it out for yourself. There is a video of a very pretty Android blogger names SassyBoB using the app! http://tinyw.in/qr0X

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bling581

I think it's a great thing to include on a phone or any device for that matter. Hopefully it will help prevent car accidents or people falling into mall fountains with its ability to send text messages via your own voice. If it allows me to do basic functions faster than I can using the UI then it's proved its usefulness. I think Android would be silly to ignore this potential for devices.

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peteyj222

"Siri, why is my life devoid of all meaning?  Why is there an emptiness in my soul?  Why am I talking to my phone?"

 

"Because you are an idiot and bought an iPhone.  What the hell were you thinking.  Just make sure you drop me before you just off this building, i want to go out first."

 

Siri is part HAL and part Marvin.  I want my smart phone to sigh now.  It already sounds like the TARDIS.

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keyzs

LOL big time!!!

try using this in a disco or on the street!!!

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don2041

Don,t give it a female personality or all men will be wrong in asking the phone to do anything

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Neufeldt2002

I actually like the idea of just telling my phone what I want it to do. I think someone is just looking to downplay the idea, after all, they are the competition.

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JohnP

Voice recognition is still not usable except under very narrow circumstances. Folks will quickly find these limitations as they plow through their daily chores. The proof will be the test of time. Let's see how much "WOW" factor is left in Siri a year from now...

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thetechchild

This.

I can see why people are bagging on Android's "boss" for taking such a narrow viewpoint... But still, voice recognition is a very volatile experience at the moment. Of course, a more popular statement would've just been for Android to say "we're working on it -- and it's going to be better than Siri"

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alexc

The reason I don't use other voice controls on things like my hands free car unit or my older iphone is that I cannot remember the exact syntax to make certain functions work, so therefore it ends up being faster just to input things manually.  Natural language removes this barrier and brings us one step closer to talking to the computer like they do in Star Trek.  Claiming that we should use a defined string for voice functions or somehow limit voice control capabilities is assinine.  Who is going to remember more than a handful of commands and how would a limited vocabulary ever integrate well with third party apps and an API?  If the system is smarter at its core then it enables greater choice and more options, and is that what Android is supposed to be about?

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Havok

I think someone is mad that they didn't release this first.... Siri is cool. I don't like a lot of Apple crap, but the way the engineers behind Siri made it, it is functional, funny, and at times, the wrong personal assistant (seriously, ask Siri "What are you wearing").

Sounds like Rubin is throwing a hissy because he didn't make it to market first.

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wannabemedontu

What a narrow minded viewpoint.  Time for some new thinking at the top, please.

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stradric

Android used to have the jump on Apple as far as voice rec, but they dropped the ball promoting it.  Now that Apple has the lead, this sounds like sour grapes.

Personally, I only use voice rec while driving.  Siri has some cool features that function as shortcuts to do things -- like create timers and what not.  You can get the same functionality on Android with a bit of work and apps like Tasker.  I imagine someone will build a Siri alternative for Android at some point.  That's the nice thing about Android, and that's what Andy Rubin should be focusing on.

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n0b0dykn0ws

So does anyone think it's going to be socially acceptable (minus coffee houses/hipster hangouts) to talk into your phone in such a way in a public setting?

Yes, it will be cool the first time someone pulls out their phone to get the temperature or movie times, but after a while it will be assenine at a minimum.

That there is now a hack to get into someone's phone using SIRI? Brilliant Apple!

And my last point is that Apple didn't even come up with this, they just bought someone out.

n0b0dykn0ws

 

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Khoiboi

1) Siri is in Beta stages right now, you make it sound like it's the first program to have a security flaw

2) Doesn't matter that apple didn't invent the idea, every technological innervation out there is a branch off of a previous idea with minor improvements. The original "siri" was made for military applications and this one is geared towards everyday life. 

3) Why would it be asinine to find out what the weather is like or what the temperature is by asking your phone? Isn't that faster than turning on the TV and waiting for the weatherman to come up? Or faster than sitting down at your computer and finding out after you wake up?

I don't own any apple products, but their idea is ingenious.  Android has all these features that people who knows a lot about computers would love, but a majority of computer users don't even know what c++ means.  This is just an instance where Apple is making a product for normal people who have no interest in computers. It's asinine Rubin to make his statement considering Android incorporated voice activation system in their system first and it failed.

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n0b0dykn0ws

1) That means that it goes against Apple's principles of 'it just works'.  But then again, you'll just get the same response of 'you're holding it wrong'.

2) It doesn't matter where it came from. Apple didn't invent it. They might have smothed out some lines here or there, but it's not like the mighty fine app just appeared from Steve Jobs mind all of a sudden.

3) If everyone in the room has to hear you ask it, whether they want to or not, it's assenine.

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stradric

> That there is now a hack to get into someone's phone using SIRI? Brilliant Apple!

Just to be fair, it's not a hack.  It's a security setting that's enabled by default.  You can send messages to people in the owner's address book.  That's abou the extent of the damage you can do.  You can't get into their phone and access any useful data, and you can disable Siri when the phone is locked.

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Marthian

except the sending message to people thing can cause a lot of damage.

there was even a comic about the damage, you could send a relation-breaking message to some person possibly.

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Khoiboi

I disagree.  No one is having a conversation with their iPhone 4S, they're telling their iPhones to do things.  Part of the novelty that is currently rising due to Siri is some of her responses, but the actual gold nugget is that Siri is an improved version of currently used voice activated systems.  On my G2, I can tell my phone to text a friend too, but Siri understands language easier and instead of telling the phone to text people using a clear command tone, I can just say it casually. And how is your smartphone not your assistant? It assists you with everyday living doesn't it? If all a smartphone was good for was to talk to people, then why all the APPs? The monthly software updates? The fact that it can DO more than just make phone calls?

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RubberDucky

He is viewing it in a strange way. Trying to find a reason to talk down at the competition. SIRI is just a fancy Apple-Spin on advanced voice input. It is convinient and useful. If you don't want to use it, don't. Personally I just upgraded my iPhone 3Gs to a Samsung Galaxy S 2 and am happy with my choice. I also noticed that it already has many voice capable applications and input options. Options are nice.

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ChatterboxChuck

I think I can agree, the phone is a smartphone, not an AI. Siri has a personality (sorta), this makes using the phone as if it was a person as oppose to a device. You can talk to the phone and Siri is designed to respond as a person. Yes, it can use existing technology within the phone and make it hands free, but by the same token, it does it as if it was a person doing it for you with confirmation and everything, even suggestions in some cases.

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nHeroGo

I don't think phones are for typing. I don't think you should be touching something; I think you should be touching someone. So, scrap that whole idea, Android. 

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