Analyst: WoW Accounted for Half of Activision Blizzard’s Earnings

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AndyYankee17

Can't we all just play mobileforces?

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Balgaroo

 

I have tried WoW twice, both times I have given it about ten hours and I just cannot get into it.  I love RPGs and I really love sandbox worlds, but WoW (and really all online MMOS) just get so boring.  I think it is because even though you complete quest you can look around and see other people do the same quest.  It does not feel unique to just my character. Guess I just want to feel special.  

I know that is the nature of online MMOS but it is a weakness to me.  I also will never pay a monthly fee for a game that requires me to buy it in the first place. Even if it was offered to download for free you should figure out a way of me paying once in a lifetime.  Sorry personal rule.

Now I am not knocking anyone that plays these types of games, to each his own, and I have many friends that are really into them, especially WoW and Warhammer but I personally just don't see the point.  For example, the games have no ending, I want to feel a since of closure when I play a game, not just a chance to start over and get stronger.

That being said, bring on Starcraft and Diablo, they both will get my $s.

 

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AndyYankee17

ever notice how when you play an rpg you get a few levels (w00t) but then getting more levels is just boring as hell?

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atomaweapon

sorry - I just can't deal with pay-to-play.

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dracoress

1.Go back and farm the old Strathhome instance for Runecloth while your dring to get the Baron's mount to drop for your Mount achivements.  U get 50 mounts you get a free mount, you hit 100 mounts you get a free mount.  U turn in the Runecloth for u'r faction rep so you can by all the regular mounts

2. Complete all quests in each zone.  I hit lvl 80 by only doing quests in just the first 4 zones, I still have 4 more to go.  And you get achivements for that.

3  You can do dailies for all the lesser factions for gear.  Some you get sick of, some factions rotate the dailies.  But the rewards are good. 

4.You can do the instances.

5. You can work on your professions or your weapon skills.

6.  You can do old raids with your guild to see if some special mounts drop.

7.  You can help your other guildies get their alts up.  You can level a new toon and start in a different area or as a different race.

 I could go on....don't tell me there is nothing to do.  I still haven't seen all the instances from the original part or from the last expantion.

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jko

For me it’s running the instances (dungeons/raids) with a fun group of people, and getting the loot to develop your character(s).  Also, the PvP areas I find to be a hoot.  That’s why I play WoW, and will continue to do so.   The questing and lvl’ing is just a necessary evil.

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chronium

For me its the simple fact that it is the only current game that I can still play with my Geforce 3 64mb video card :D

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neo1piv14

I'm not going to completely ream the game out, simply because I know a stunning success when I'm smacked upsidet he head with it. However, it just wasn't my type of game. I guess you just have to be a specific type of person to enjoy that style of gameplay, but I definitely know a ton of people who have probably invested hundreds and hundreds of dollars into staying in Azeroth. Just so long as blizzard gets Starcraft 2 out for me, I'll pay my dues to the American Dream machine.

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MaxFan

Blizzard makes a credible game with an interesting storyline continuous upgrades and patches to deliver content and to fix known issues and improve as it grows.  You fps'ers at MPC need to get a freakin clue.  World Of Warcraft, is here to stay for a while.  You may dis this game and ignore it and make snide comments about its age and its graphics until you turn blue.  But there is something you have missed and missed in a big way.  WoW is popular because it uses a formula that actually works to draw and keep the customer.  Let me preach on it:

 1.  It provides a game with a story line that the player is prepared to accept.

 2.  It provides methods for the player to advance in rank and status within the context of the game.

 3.  It provides multiple channels for communication between players.

 4.  Through dungeon instances, Raids, and PvP, it provides opportunities for players to work together toward a common (if derived) goal.

 5.  Through Guilds and groups it provides socialization for players who would otherwise be playing by themselves against the pc. 

 6.  The games mechanics establish a viable and workable economic model that uses capitalism, that great discovery of Smith, Locke, and Nash, to maintain order and promote teamwork and individual entrepeneurmanship.

 7.  The game provides an outlet for aggression and provides some fairly important escapism for the beleagured human psyche.  Without these outlets you might actually see an increase in things like PTSS, and depression and anxiety.

 8.  It provides the player with something else too that little gets thought about:  It allows people to do that which every 5 year old knows is good for you.  It ALLOWS YOU TO PLAY.  It allows the player to enjoy something not of his direct creation but of his ability to extend beyond that which exists already in a direction unforseen by the creators of the game. 

 9.  It provides opportunities for individuals to excel in something (however contrived) where in real life they may be unable to succeed due to environment peer presure or genetics.

 10.  It provides a means to leave the worry of the stigma of death behind for a short while.  (graveyards point toward hope of resurrection in WoW).

Now with all those things going for it its no wonder that the current population of active accounts is 15 million + and growing rapidly every day.  The marketplace in real life agrees with this as is evidenced by the profits Blizzard has had the pleasure of raking in every quarter since launch.

Say what you will about this game but Its developers and funders and shareholders will laugh at you all the way to the bank

 

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Antilogic81

Wait you're telling me that I can't dislike a game or express that opinion? Alright...um...WoW sux? Yup, your reasons are not important and I'll tell you why.

Number 1, Um....There aren't any MMOs without an incredible backstory or uber amounts of fluff in it. 

Number 2....I can't seem to find an MMO that doesn't allow you to progress and evolve in your character...IE level up. And the same goes for unranked status given to you by others players (actually that's a real life thing too oMG!)

Number 3...EQ, EQ2, Asheron's Call, Asheron's Call 2, Shadowbane, Age of Conan, Warhammer:AoR...MMO's new and old have always had multiple channels for lines of communication from selling stuff in market channels to guild and group channels. This is certainly not new and not worthy of mention.

Number 4...Please spare me, I'm getting tired of this you haven't mentioned anything unique...show me an MMO without instances or quests...cause I don't know any.

Your number 5 is a crock of bs. Any pc game with an online capability has that...you know TS and Vent are used for more than just MMOs. They are used in FPS's too. I've been part of a guild for 5 years now...their main attraction is FPS...oh snap. Please don't act like this is one of your pros for the game that we have somehow missed.

Number 6...okay I see where this is going...most games have a hard time doing well with establishing a stable economy...except that WoW's economy is not stable ...it's more stable then others but it isn't stable...I can still find power levelings services and gold sellers online that will sell to anyone, so it's economy is just as plagued as any other.

Number 7...is also a crock of shit...this is not an outlet...you want an outlet...go out running...just sitting there and doing minimal movement and losing sleep over it will increase aggression. Lets try and be honest...if your aggression is stemmed from outside IE the real world...you have to still face that problem when you stop playing the game...so really it's an ESCAPE not an outlet. On the other hand, running does a number of beneficial things, it causes an edorphin rush, on top of that, it gives your body a chance to exhaust itself, which in of itself is already theraputic...but lets concentrate on something else here, your mind is free to think of other things, while you exhaust yourself your mind is calming down...games aren't exactly an activity that recquires minimal brain function, so after you're done gaming you're not going to be able to tackle the problem ahead because soon as you go back to work, or have to deal with the kids, you're still aggressive. 

Number 8....Every game allows you to play, and even in FPSs we surprise the creators with unforseen abilities. In AC we stopped a GM controlled NPC from breaking the BZ Crystal...they didn't expect that so they gave us a statue in honor of our accomplishment, so this isn't a WoW thing, it's really a player thing. Next.

Number 9...Omg you're serious...you're saying that Einstein should have just given up on math instead of continuing to try his hand at other kinds of math...the only reason we have progressed is because we continue to push ourselves...you epose we remain stagnant...or that we just accept that we're fat and not bother leading any sort of a healthy lifestyle...no just play a game...and anyone who falls to peer pressure...that's a pretty sad individual...they have after school activities that help with that, that foster things like teamwork...hell going to the Y will help, or just picking up paintball and learning the mechanics of that...MaxFan says we should just give up and not try to find anything we're good at...anywhere you go you will find peer pressure...those who cave to it never get anywhere and they will always been unhappy...and seek more ways to escape into some fantasy...which btw is a great window for psychosis.

 Number 10...this is something you can find any game that is an MMO...so again I ask you to please list thigns that aren't blatantly obvious and unmissible. 

 

I'm going to make a shot in the dark here...you picked a game...you liked it...regardless of other games having it, you liked this one. And you don't like it when someone says it sucks...because you feel it invalidates all those hours you invested in it...conviction is one thing...but missplaced conviction I can't stand...it would be one thing to state your opinions but you tried to throw out facts that simply are common formulae for any MMO being made or currently out there, and as if to make it worse you said only WoW has it. WoW wasn't the first to have any of these proponents you mentioned...and it won't be the last either. And the only reason people stay with it is because they have spent too much time in it already...they dont' want to relearn anything, they are stuck in their ways...stagnant. And that's why those stock holders, investors and developers are all laughing.

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MaxFan

"Wait you're telling me that I can't dislike a game or express that opinion? Alright...um...WoW sux? Yup, your reasons are not important and I'll tell you why. "

Im not telling you a thing.  Activision/Blizzard's Bottom line IS.  You have every right to not like or play a game and may express any opinion you like wherever and however it suits you so lang as said opinion does not involve harming another human being or that human biengs property (real or Intellectual for which you would then be liable for whatever damages were assessed to you by a court of competent jurisdiction)

"Number 1, Um....There aren't any MMOs without an incredible backstory or uber amounts of fluff in it." 

Blizzards story line is gripping enough that people want more of it and they tell their friends about it.

Number 2....I can't seem to find an MMO that doesn't allow you to progress and evolve in your character...IE level up. And the same goes for unranked status given to you by others players (actually that's a real life thing too oMG!)

Blizzrd does this better than its closest competitor by a long long ways

"Number 3...EQ, EQ2, Asheron's Call, Asheron's Call 2, Shadowbane, Age of Conan, Warhammer:AoR...MMO's new and old have always had multiple channels for lines of communication from selling stuff in market channels to guild and group channels. This is certainly not new and not worthy of mention. "

No it isnt new.  Worth of mention?  of course it is else why did you isolate this as a rebuttal point.  You opened the door to debate therefore it is worthy of mention.  Yes the other MMO's have some form of communication.  However, as far as i am aware it is done better by Blizzard than by anyone else in the same market segment.  Again, people tend to vote with their pocketbooks.  Looks like Blizzard got elected.

"Number 4...Please spare me, I'm getting tired of this you haven't mentioned anything unique...show me an MMO without instances or quests...cause I don't know any. "

Its the only one that has instances and quests that engender a spirit of teamwork based on "missing attributes"  (what attributes or abilities i am missing i must make up for in my groups selection else the run will fail, and I must have communication and teamwork to make it successfully out of the instance alive)  dont misquote me or read out of context what i described.  I dislike it and it leads to opinion without forethought something you seem to be full of along with the required amount of Horse Hockey

"Your number 5 is a crock of bs. Any pc game with an online capability has that...you know TS and Vent are used for more than just MMOs. They are used in FPS's too. I've been part of a guild for 5 years now...their main attraction is FPS...oh snap. Please don't act like this is one of your pros for the game that we have somehow missed. "

See number 4  Asked and answered

"Number 6...okay I see where this is going...most games have a hard time doing well with establishing a stable economy...except that WoW's economy is not stable ...it's more stable then others but it isn't stable...I can still find power levelings services and gold sellers online that will sell to anyone, so it's economy is just as plagued as any other. "

No you obviously do NOT see else you wouldnt have typed this diatribe to begin with.  However,  the economy of WoW is as stable or perhaps MORE stable than the current global economic meltdown we have seen over the last two years.  Prices may be inflated at the release of an expansion but it sttles back into predictable patterns from which usueful information may be gained on what is selling and what isnt in a short amount of time.   As to the gold sellers and the farmers.  they exist because World of Warcraft has a stable ingame economy no one in real life would be able to make a profit on an economy in virtual space without the economy in that virtual space being somewhat predictable.

"Number 7...is also a crock of shit...this is not an outlet...you want an outlet...go out running...just sitting there and doing minimal movement and losing sleep over it will increase aggression. Lets try and be honest...if your aggression is stemmed from outside IE the real world...you have to still face that problem when you stop playing the game...so really it's an ESCAPE not an outlet. On the other hand, running does a number of beneficial things, it causes an edorphin rush, on top of that, it gives your body a chance to exhaust itself, which in of itself is already theraputic...but lets concentrate on something else here, your mind is free to think of other things, while you exhaust yourself your mind is calming down...games aren't exactly an activity that recquires minimal brain function, so after you're done gaming you're not going to be able to tackle the problem ahead because soon as you go back to work, or have to deal with the kids, you're still aggressive. "

ummm Outlet.  You may run you may drink you may smoke you may eat you may play WoW you may do almost ANY activity and it become an escape.  You think all runners are healthy?  Two Words for you there partner  Jim Fixx. 

It provides an outlet for some.  I get the same endorphin rush that a runner does when Illidan drops as I do from getting a second wind.  After you finish running you will still have to deal with the issue that was bugging you. 

"Number 9...Omg you're serious...you're saying that Einstein should have just given up on math instead of continuing to try his hand at other kinds of math...the only reason we have progressed is because we continue to push ourselves...you epose we remain stagnant...or that we just accept that we're fat and not bother leading any sort of a healthy lifestyle...no just play a game...and anyone who falls to peer pressure...that's a pretty sad individual...they have after school activities that help with that, that foster things like teamwork...hell going to the Y will help, or just picking up paintball and learning the mechanics of that...MaxFan says we should just give up and not try to find anything we're good at...anywhere you go you will find peer pressure...those who cave to it never get anywhere and they will always been unhappy...and seek more ways to escape into some fantasy...which btw is a great window for psychosis."

No, I advocate that we excel in those activities that do interest us if Tensor Equations fascinate you, then be my guest.  Perhaps you will find an answer to the equations that allow all forms of matter and energy to be expressed as a single entity as Einstein did. 

If you are overweight then perhaps that is something that you should address.  Part of that might be doing something other than sitting in front of a Computer playing a fantasy based game part might be not watching 40 hours of tv per week either.  (didnt see you mention that illness so I mentioned it for you.)  You like paintball thats fine go play it.  I happen to like World of Warcraft and so do at last count approximately 15 million others.  Show me another MMO that can say that.  You know what?  You cant.  They dont exists yet.  When they do maybe ill be out there among them too.  Oh and Ad Hominem attacks tend to piss me off and make you look like an ass so please use rebuttal techniques that actually work.

 "Number 10..."  No comment on this one as none is needed from me to show you just how much of a carrot you are.  Keep drinking the koolaid from your favorite FPS vendor fanboy.

Blizzard has a model that works and works staggeringly well as evidenced by its lack of layoffs ( Hi Electronic Arts hows it going out there bud?) increases in its bottom lines (sorry Square, et cetera.) Dividend increases for its shareholders, and increased budgets for development of new games all around.  That spells success on Wall Street and on Main Street.  I challenge you to find a better working model than that.

  

 

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Magius

What is does, it does well and with style. I admit, it is not a game for everyone but it is a very cool game for those who like it. I simply can't agree with you that we play for the sake of playing or because we have vested so much time in it. I would say that for my particular taste there is no other MMO's that can compete with WoW. I played a good amount of them too: EQ, CoH/CoV, Lineage II, Vanguard, AD&D, Conan, War and a whole another host of korean MMOs. Everytime I was willing to try something new, being attracted to that new coat of paint, but content-wise all of them were lacking in one way or another.

 Let me tell you, I have put some hours into WoW but I am not afraid of jumping ship if something better comes along, but there is just not much out there. Now with the latest expansion WoW added a whole lot of different types of missions that are simply too fun (vehicle missions come to mind).

 Yeah, I like it, you don't, that gives you the right to explain why you dont like it. What it doesn't give you is the right to outright diss and insult the people that like the game. Because when you do, it just reveals that you really wish you liked the game but it pisses you off you can't have fun with it as the other 11+million players out there.

 As for the poster before you, for all we know he may be a kid that grew with WoW and that is all he knows.

 Fact is there are a lot of gamers playing WoW. Population actually grew with the expansion. It is a fun game. A lot of people hate whatever is on the top and will find anything, no matter how small, call it a fault and proclaim that is a reason why the game sucks.

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Phated1

So youre saying that just because WoW isnt 100% new, it sucks?  Well sir then you will be waiting a long time for a game that you like to come out.  WoW has been around for YEARS, and there is a reason for that.  WoW does NOT suck, it has alot of innovation, and it continues to provide new and better content.  Wow is also not stagnant, they add new features frequently. 

You also notice half of the games you mention don't even exist anymore!  And if they do they are failing.  The games that are coming out now are either poorly made or are very similar to wow.  And yes you are correct, a lot of people wont leave wow because they have so much invested into wow.  But you also have to compare that against the games that are coming out, AoC had a horrible launch followed by a severe lack of content/completeness.  WAR was very similar to WoW, and was just overall an unfun game.  Darkfall is the only game on the horizon that is going to be different than wow in any way.  I mean hell if you look at the games coming out now half of them are WoW clones.  The UI's even look the same.  Sure when wow came out it wasnt the first to do everything, but it was innovative, and still is.  Its still widely considered the gold standard for MMOs.

Nobody is saying you cant have an opinion.  However, an opinion is not "WoW Sucks" or "WoW is a terrible game".  An opinion is more like "I dislike wow" or "I wish wow had such and such a feature."  But broad statements like "WoW is a bad game because this feature was done in this other game first" is just dumb.  If blizzard had made their game without taking any features from any other game, well, the game would have nothing.  There have been far too many games out there for any one game to be 100% new.  Blizzard took those features, however, and improved on them.  Made them 100% better, so much so that most games copy blizzard's iteration of the features as opposed to the old versions.

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MaxFan

Well Said Phated1 Well Said. 

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Zazubovich

The comrades must all agree. A special case of capitalism-magical capitalism, where a deus ex machina may at any time tweak the economy and practice of exchange at any time by limiting markets, manipulating currency, regulating trade, etc. with little recourse from the players.

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MaxFan

No. what you described would not actually be the Marxist/Leninist version of Communism that the old Soviet Union was based upon prior to WWII.  What you describe is a totalitarian economy.  That certainly is not what World of Warcraft's economy is based on.  While it is true that the virtual economy of this particular MMO has devices that allow the developers to tweak the economy should they so choose, the developers of this game have chosen on every occasion given to them to NOT tweak it. 

The few (relative) exceptions to this that are made is when an account is "hacked" by someone who is not the account owner (subscription payer) and the items from that account are restored to a state previously known to exist prior to the "hack" and this is done only once per account.  Second time it gets hacked its on the account owners head.

When the developers push content expansion it simply proves the capitalist model over and over again.  The new items are placed on the AH for much more than they are worth and someone else buys those items and establishes a pattern of buy and sell that ultimately effects change upon the economy stabilizing it further as time progresses.  this is capitalism in its pure form.  The value of an item is that which the market will bear.  Thos e who dont get that in the context of the game sell items for way more or less than they should and neither of those reaps a profit.  Only those in the middle of the Bell Curve end up profiting from the game.

Certainly doesnt sound like communism to me

 

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Steelwells

While I cannot say that everything is perfect with the game, that patches that are released only improve things (ugh to 3.0.8), and I never experience jaw-clenching lag during sessions, for the most part I enjoy the hell out of the game.  The latest expansion has reinvigorated the game and as a gamer that plays WoW with his wife, there's nothing so fun as experiencing the story lines and new content together.

I'm not planning on going anywhere and consider my subscription money well spent.

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AndyYankee17

eh, can't say I'm surprised, although I played that game for about 5 hours total and was bored out my mind

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