I tested the Beta and RC.

Submitted by chrisv815 on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 9:28am

I tested the Beta and RC.  its nice, different,  I even get a little better frame rates over vista.  My sound card isn't working right (but thats drivers)  But I don't see any benifit over Vista to justify $119.00.  Maybe if I had gotten in at the $50 price deal.   Plus I have 7 computers in the house.  If I did one I'd want to do all and thats not happening for this price.  This is really only a service pack.  They should give it out for free and pay us for our time to reinstall what is fixing their mistake.

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Doesn't matter what the price is...

Submitted by DogPatch1149 on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 10:21pm

Played with the last Win7 RC for a while in both real and virtual environments, and I quickly figured out that paying for an OS that seems to be little more than a glorified Service Pack 3 for Vista doesn't make sense.

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Apple wins

Submitted by wytworm on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 6:08pm

in my house. My final game machine (last windows box) died last month. After seeing the prices which i consider to be insulting given the debacle of Vista, we chose to let Windows go for our household and just remain where we are,  on one mac pro tower, 2 macbook pros, and one imac for the kids. 

 I have a 360 for games anyhow.  

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Apple wins

Submitted by wytworm on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 6:11pm

doubled

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Family pack pricing is where it's at!

Submitted by lumpoco on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 11:03pm

The best way to save money on Windows 7 is to purchase the Windows 7 family pack. It's a great deal and many people should take advantage of it. And no...the 3 users do not really have to reside in the same residence. How is Microsoft going to check? Oh wait...they can..."IP", but then that would be illegal and nefarious. And we all know what an upstanding company Microsoft is. 

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I think the full pricing is

Submitted by n0ctis on Tue, 07/07/2009 - 5:21am

I think the full pricing is a bit high, but I got in on the pre-order price so I have nothing to complain about.I don't think the price point is at whine-ass levels though.

Analysts say a lot of things. I think they just like to see their names in print.

 

.: vires et honos :.

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War of the Worlds 7

Submitted by mdkplus on Fri, 07/03/2009 - 9:05pm

It's yet another remake of the classic movie that was Win 95, except this time the Tripods are replaced by the machine- god Microsoft who, after draining the green life blood from billions of the human population around the globe, is not content to own a monopoly with a monetary worth greater than that of all of Cuba.

Of course the pricing is not fair. How can it be? Was not the groundwork already done? How much overhead can there be for changing a few snippets of code from  Vista, along with thousands of hours of free testing, suggestions, and debugging by the unpaid masses who tested and used both  betas and Rc's? You're gonna pay me back by throwing me a dated, one dog only bone that's only available until July 11? I probably will buy it, but it's only a disposable version (Oem) so really what good is it when my motherboard gets fried a month after I activate? (I live next to high- power lines and lightening-prone trees)

Why does a 1 TB HD cost less than a Dvd full of Microsoft-produced binary code?

I'm paying less money for better hardware and more mb's than 14 years ago. Heck, my first ol' 8088 machine with it's whopping 8-bit proc, 12 mhz bus, 640k ram, 5.5 floppy, 10 mb. HD cost over 1k. Look what you can get for 1/4 of that cost now.

So why do I have to pay consistently rising prices for intellectual-based data that is not bound to the constraints of a physical manufacturing facility, raw material pricing and availability, machine maintenance, etc. when all it takes to program code is a frigging laptop and a car battery! 

I spent years suffering through patch after patch, server problems, service packs 1 - ~, driver updates, knowledge base articles, anxiety, and BSoD's. Since the general consensus is that Vista turned out to be a lemon, shouldn't Vista purchasers from way back be afforded the same FREE upgrade option future Vista owners will have? 

Capitolism works only if you can control the greed.

Good thing the open source community is thriving, and Microsoft's consistent greed- based pricing system will insure that. And Don't give me no crap about piracy.  The real crime is the corporate model  of using high dollar lawyers to find ways to weasel out of anti-trust lawsuits.

The Brits wouldn't stand for it and neither should we.

 

 

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Stuck it to Canadians...

Submitted by Sault Saint on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 3:11pm

I followed a link to preorder Windows 7 from an earlier MPC article, and was glad to see the reduced upgrade price through Newegg (even after the currency change).  So I tried Newegg.ca and...surprise...no pre-order promo there.  Here's the reply from Newegg.

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting Newegg.

I
would be glad to assist you with this. I looked into this and
unfortunately with the Windows 7 upgrade we are not offering it to our
Canadian customers. Also you will not be able to order it on the US
site if you do not have a US based payment method and billing
information.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you. 

 

Can't help but feel a little left out up here...

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Upgrading can be done regardless what version you have

Submitted by Kargg on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 2:09am

NO matter what version of Windows you have, Windows Upgrade will still work, even without the XP or Vista disc.

Just install Win 7 WITHOUT THE KEY first, then, while in Windows, do the upgrade WITH THE KEY. (Yeah, a little bit of a pain, but it beats paying full price for the FULL version.)

 

I'm pretty sure that this will install like this, since Vista did the same thing with THAT upgrade.

 Even if you DO NOT have a version of Windows, the upgrade version will still work. (Unless they changed that.) But ANY version of Windows XP or Vista will qualify you for the upgrade--though you really don't need them.

Hope that helped.

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I for one will wait for the

Submitted by yogurt80 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 11:22pm

I for one will wait for the OEM version, 'cos I don't care for an upgrade disc.  The price seems OK, but here's m yrant-

Most homes these days have more than 1 computer.  Mine has 5.  It's silly to me to fork out that much for EACH PC.  MS should include 3 licenses for the price, just to have the option for cudtomers with one PC.

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Wish prices were a little better

Submitted by bandeezee on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 8:19am

I agree that the current reduction in price is pretty darn good, but I do wish they would have reduced the price of the full retail versions as well.  I don't want to have to put in my XP disc every time I do a fresh install or have to go through some round about way of getting it done.  They'll slash win7 pro upgrade from $199 to $99, but Win7 pro full retail stays at $299, that's way too high for me, but I want the XP mode functionality that Home Premium doesn't have.  I'd be all over the full retail version if it was 50% off right now.

 

btw, in response to one of the posts below, yes, each retail/upgrade version you get comes with both 32 and 64 bit versions.  (see the details here).

*Edit: link fixed.

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I have a question and cannot

Submitted by DBsantos77 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 8:17pm

I have a question and cannot find the answer ANYWHERE.

 I understand that I have to be running VISTA at the time of installing 7 for it to work but...

I will be running 32-bit Vista. Can the upgrade method work if I get a 64-bit version of home premium? Also,

does the upgrade from newegg, tigerdirect etc. include BOTH 32-bit AND 64-bit versions of 7? Or is it one version? 

I seriously need clarification and fast because these copies are running out :/

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Satisfied

Submitted by mesiah on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 7:56pm

I am satisfied with microsofts pricing with windows 7. Looking back at their past pricing structure it is very much in line. Look at it this way, if vista never existed everyone would be just fine with these prices. Yes, vista had its problems when it came out, but most of those have been fixed by now. MS is offering a 2 week discount on win 7 as an apology to those who suffered through vista and can't stand to use it any longer. Those are the people who are going to run out and pre order. The rest of the people, the ones that think vista works just fine, or hate vista only because their friends or the people at work tell them they should, will keep on using it and this wont effect them at all.

 So, Microsoft is charging what windows 7 is worth when it comes out, but for a limited time they are apologizing for thier last release, be happy with it. It's more than what most companies would do. $50 for an OS upgrade is dirt cheap when you concider people pay more than that for a single game or a couple blu ray discs these days.

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Decent

Submitted by maniacm0nk3y on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 7:45pm

The prices are decent but I think the pre-order deal should be the real deal, not just pre-order. I was lucky enough to get Vista Ultimate x64 OEM for $80 from a friend because he had an extra....but it's ridicolous that 7 Ultimate has no special deals going on at all...and I believe I can't even "upgrade" to it. The prices on OEM for Windows 7 better be good.

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I can't help wondering if the Patches will be the same deal...

Submitted by Wildebeast on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 7:24pm

The full list to patch one of my WinXP sp1 PC's (from a fresh re-install) is 4-5 Gigabytes.

I think I'd be really ticked off, if I paid $120 for 7, then it took them 12-18 months to roll out enough patches to make it work as it should have at launch--the way they seem to have done with Vista.

I haven't really tried Vista, or looked much at 7...

Since I'm not buying now, I guess we'll see if I EVER see a compelling reason to buy a MS OS without a new PC, again.

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$119 ...

Submitted by arkweld on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 7:10pm

is fine for a full retail price. Upgrade pricing should be below $100.

But $250 for a new system? Idiotic. If you are building a new system you are going to go OEM anyway if you have any sense, so why not just make the retail price fall in line so you can buy it in a local store.

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Pricing Could Be Better

Submitted by Joe The Plummer on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 6:59pm

I think they should make the $49 Windows 7 Home Premium the price for Vista Home Premium users permanent. XP users should pay the $119 upgrade price to Home Premium from either XP Home or XP Pro. But I think they need to lower the price for Windows 7 Ultimate.  As seen with Vista Ultimate you really get jack for the price. They promised all these special freebies for Vista Ultimate users and they never really materialized. Also they should offer a special upgrade price for 7 Ultimate like they're doing for Home and Pro.

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I think

Submitted by MeTo on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 6:55pm

I think if you have a leagle copy of Vista you should get a comparable copy of Win 7 upgrade for half price. Vista had some "major" issues and still has some issues. Personally I will just wait till i need a new PC could be Win 8 by then.

 

Internet box Linux,Dual boot/Vista,AMD Athlon+ x2 5600,3 Gig DDR2 ram,500 Gig HDD,ATI HD 4650 1 gig Video.

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I think Mr. Baker has no

Submitted by BinaryMonkey on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 5:33pm

I think Mr. Baker has no idea what he's talking about. If you consider Microsoft's pricing history in regards to Windows, the current prices are about right.

Here's the breakdown for the home consumer prices, which are what he seems to be focused on and worried about.

Windows 95
Full Version Retail price: $209
Upgrade Retail Price: $109

Windows 98
Full Version Retail price: $209
Upgrade Retail Price: $109

Windows ME
Full Version Retail price: $209
Upgrade Retail Price: $109

Windows XP Home
Full Version Retail price: $199
Upgrade Retail Price: $99

Windows Vista Home Basic
Full Version Retail price: $199
Upgrade Retail Price: $99

Windows Vista Home Premium
Full Version Retail Price: $259
Upgrade Retail Price: $159

Windows 7 Home Premium
Full Version Retail price: $199
Upgrade Retail Price: $119

So in essence, I can buy a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium for less than I paid for Windows 95 when it came out. I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds like a damn good deal to me.

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I said it before and I'll

Submitted by majorsuave on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 5:00pm

I said it before and I'll say it again. I'd be willing to pay 50$ a year for Windows (like I do for xbox live) and expect to have all the functions for that prize. ( If I had paid 50$ a year for XP it'd be up to 500$ now - think about it MS).

However, I would expect to have all the upgrades, patches and new versions for that prize including windows 8 and so on.

 

Honestly though, 119$ for something I might very well use for 5 years is nice. I'd take 3 licenses for 200$ though. or 5, make it 5.

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Just bought W7 HP

Submitted by GBH on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 4:35pm

Just bought W7 HP

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what do I think ? I think we

Submitted by MRrelabled on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 4:25pm

what do I think ? I think we got these great devices in our homes capable of so much and we have these lacking OSs that still have screen savers. Time to think outside the Window.

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Vista SP2

Submitted by jeff.petersen on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 4:19pm

It should be FREE to all Vista users, it's basically just fixing broken shit and a minor visual refresh. I think of Win 7 as a service pack.

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IMO, the special pre-order

Submitted by chaosdsm on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 4:16pm

IMO, the special pre-order price currently in effect through July 11 should be the regular price for the upgrade versions, & current Vista OEM pricing should be the pricing for full retail versions. 

Windows 7 Home Premium is plenty for the vast majority of home users, & $49 is a decent price, even for an upgrade version.  That asside, with such a short pre-order period for the reduced price, MANY who could benefit from it will never even know about it, or find out about it in time to take advantage of it.

Personally, I think Microsoft should extend the reduced price pre-order period through to the end of September.

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This is the same scenario as

Submitted by Skillz_n_Magic on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:37pm

This is the same scenario as when XP came out.  Windows ME had just come out and sucked hard-core.  Everyone hated it just as much, if not more than Vista.  XP came out and dominated.

 For the home crowd the pricing won't affect sales.  We're talking about people buying stand-alone copies of an operating system.  Not businesses or people getting OEM's with their PC.  The target audience who will buy the OS off the shelf will buy it regardless of the economy, and regardless of a $20 price difference.

 

My 2¢

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Doesn't affect me. I never went to Vista

Submitted by SANMANx on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:27pm

I never went to Vista and bought home Premuim for the sale price plus $30 off opening an Amazon.com credit card account. I only paid $24.97. I couldn't be happier.

I am Recession Proof

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Ultimate

Submitted by mls067 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:25pm

I think it is still over-priced.

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I Think its right on the money

Submitted by Sonickid101 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:19pm

I think that price point is perfectly acceptable cheers Microsoft Windows 7's gunna be awesome and i'm not being a fanboy cause I agree windows Vista had a lot of stumbles and I do believe its time to move on just like we did with Windows ME.

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Windows 7 pricing

Submitted by knighttoday on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:56pm

I too think Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot with this retail pricing for 7 as it does nothing to make up for the poor experience Vista provided to general users and they paid dearly for it. I was very pleased MS gave the 50% discount for a very limited time but suspect they are doing this primarily as a PR move so they can then yell how well the OS is selling prior to release. I only purchased it because I refuse to pay retail or OEM price as I already wasted my money on Vista.

 

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I agree that the 99 dollar

Submitted by gatorXXX on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:49pm

I agree that the 99 dollar moniker makes it that much more appealing, especially when most of us paid out the wazoo for a bunked OS known as vista when it was released. I for one, went to newegg and pre-ordered the home premium for 49 the day it came out so this pricing wont effect me.

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The Magic Number

Submitted by cdowley on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:33pm

In this economic climate, the $100 mark seems to almost be a "magic" number for many retail customers.  A $100 difference between TV's is a make-or-break (no matter the actual differences between the models...), the idea of a $100 BluRay player is enough to consider buying one, etc.  So pricing Windows 7 Home Premium at $99, just under that mark, would seem to be much wiser than pricing it at $119 right now.

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If home premium would drop

Submitted by DBsantos77 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:23pm

If home premium would drop form $119 to $99, they'd sell more, faster. Even though the HP retail pricing is lower then Vista, I still think they can go lower.

 How low can you go?

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