AMD's Piledriver To Break 4GHz Clock Barrier, Use New Resonant Clock Mesh Tech

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pet789

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batgirl

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livebriand

I'm not getting my hopes up, after Bulldozer. I'd certainly consider an AMD A4/A6/A8 for a budget machine used for web browsing and a few light games, but for a mid-range or high-end machine, it's simply no contest, Intel wins. That said, I would love to see AMD get competitive again, so that I have some decent choice in the upper-end market and Intel can't price gouge.

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bpstone

Light games? How many GPUs plus monitors are using to cause so much bottleneck that you cannot get mid to high range performance? Bulldozer may not be the cream of the crop, but it is nowhere near that bad. You build a system according to your needs. If you have three high resolution monitors with a patched extreme game, then a $1k CPU on an x79 motherboard might make some sense. One bulldozer combined with a Radeon HD 7970 GPU is more than enough processing power for the average gamer right now.

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Ghost XFX

Somebody call Intel. Tell them their turnips fell off the truck again...
Before mouthing off about stuff you don't know, you should err on the side of caution and let technology prove itself.

Intel fans know so damn much, why in the hell aren't you all hired to do the job? AMD shouldn't have to place itself as direct competition with Intel. They obviously have different objectives now. Like buying a car, you want a Corvette, go get one. Me personally, I want a Challenger or a Charger for practicality is concern. I shouldn't have to hear about your damn Corvette every time one or the other is mentioned.

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keyzs

had my HD 6970 in Dec 2010... waited almost 1yr for Bulldozer...on arrival paired with an almost 1yr old graphic card...*sigh*

result... performance not great, worse of, there are some very minor issues associated with various applications intermittently too...

thought of giving AMD another shot... in the end, as in right now, i am planning to sell it all off and am looking forward to the launch of Ivy Bridge...

i tried with AMD, i really did...

oh well, that's it for me with AMD... its back to Intel and nVidia...

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Keith E. Whisman

Sounds like a description of the flex capacitor. So will this chip go back in time to 1955 if it were to ever accelerate to 88.5 miles per hour?

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Contrarian

I believe that was the "flux" capacitor. And wouldn't it need to be attached somehow to a Delorean?

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SkinnyZeroOne

Yes -- was "Flux". And after getting that attached to the Delorean, I have no doubt that it would run better than any of AMD's current crop of BullSh*t Bulldozer & upcoming Piles of Sh*t Processors.

BTW -- Been running AMD Processors for the last 12+ years. After this Bulldozer Size Mistake --- I think they're toast. I would love to be wrong -- would benefit all of us.

DOC !! Where are ya DOC?!!?

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Hey.That_Dude

Yay?
FLOPS? single and double?
Cores/Modules?
Will it bake me cookies?
ANYTHING MORE USEFUL THEN CLOCK?

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OCFRED

Nice pitch for Cyclos, especially with ARM proven results to back up the architecture. So far the biggest barrier in migrating to shrinking dies is heat and running fewer operations will be faster and cooler from a user perspective and far more robust in servers.

Cool.

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SkinnyZeroOne

After their Bulldozer disaster - I could care less. I'm on an AMD Phenom II 955 for the last 2+ years. Had to change my motherboard to take my CPU with me so I stayed with AMD in the the hopes that Bulldozer would provide an upgrade path as far as the CPU went when it was released.
Totally disappointed - It's fatally flawed. Saving my money for an Intel build next time around.

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keyboardJuice

Same here. Right now I have an AMD-Nvidia build but my next one will be Intel with an AMD video card. At least they got that part of the business right.

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Nimrod

Are guys both totally fucking retarded or something? Read a damn benchmark before you buy. Their parts are cheap and you should be thankful. Your obviously idiots, if Piledriver is fast and cheap who the fuck cares about AMD last chips. This brand loyalty shit is idiotic. Buy what ever is best and dont be a fucktard.

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Supall

"fatally flawed"? So its so flawed that it will kill you? Let's not exaggerate its shortcomings, now, eh?

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illusionslayer

Let's not exaggerate his usage of the term "fatally".

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Supall

You missed the point completely, but thanks for playing.

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warptek2010

No mention of this new Heterogeneous Computing Architecture they were pushing? I always wondered why AMD never created it's own version of Hyper-threading or Hyper-cores, or whatever. Perhaps some intrepid MaxPc reporter could investigate? Brad, any info on this?

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dgrmouse

Benchmarks, or it doesn't exist.

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biggiebob12345

So AMD is creating some lame clocking scheme to reduce power while Intel develops FINFET transistors? Yeah sounds to me like Intel knows more what they're doing.

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Hey.That_Dude

Intel has never refered to its transistor technology with the term "FINFET". They call it "Tri-gate" and AMD does have a semi-FINFET design because it's easy to make on an SOI.

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NVZBLT

Whatever bullshit name Intel wants to call it doesn't make a difference. Its still a FINFET. A rose by any other name....

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Jeffredo

They could have just did a die-shrink on the Phenom II and probably got better results.

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Enigmatic Magus

I seem to recall Intel pushing for higher clock speeds and AMD touting various other features as being more important.

Has the need for more (Giga)Megahertz jumped ship? Will it be NetBurst 2.0?

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QUINTIX256

Interesting discussion here:
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138988&p=215204&hilit=netburst+pipeline+stages#p215204
It has a bit longer pipeline than Phenom II, yes, but it is no netburst.

It was not that long ago that it took well over $400 to get into the 3ghz range stock. I was really excited to see Phenom II get bumped into clocking territory last tread by the ill-fated Pentium 4 (3.6GHz+)-- within the same TDP envelope no less, and the overclocking records set by Phemon II and later broken by Bulldozer. It showed that GloFo was the only foundry that could truely stand toe-to-toe with intel's fabs. So, I had high hopes for AMD's first 32nm processors. I was expecting 3.2ghz/800mhz out of the first desktop fusions. Those expectations where dashed, but that did not stop me from buying an A8 at launch :)

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Captain_Steve

Clock speed is a marketing gimmick. It sounds impressive when you can brag that you have the only chip that runs at over 4Ghz. The majority of computer buyers don't know squat about computers, so they just look for big numbers and call it a day.

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I Jedi

I agree. Unless you're running complex equations or something, you're not going to need a 4Ghz processor. I'd rather know what the processor can support on its own, such as PCI 3.0.

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I Jedi

High on promises, short on results. - AMD

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warptek2010

It wasn't too long ago we were saying the same thing about Intel at one point. Remember 'Netburst'? You guys have seem to bought into a faulty premise here. When did competition turn into a bad thing??? I could only imagine what Intel chips would cost if AMD weren't around any longer.

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Arlips

Netburst was a decade ago, hate to break it to you. Intel learned a lot from that debacle and AMD has been getting further and further away from Intel's lead ever since. Their Athlon glory days are a distant memory and they can no longer rely on Intel to screw up in order to gain market share.

Thanks to the massive success of the Core architecture and dominance of every Intel CPU since, Intel's R&D team is likely an order of magnitude larger and better funded than AMD's. We won't be seeing another Netburst again, especially with AMD pumping out more and more mediocre chips and disappointments like Bulldozer.

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SkinnyZeroOne

@Arlips & @I Jedi Below - That's it in a nutshell -- well said my friends, well said.

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I Jedi

It truly is shame that AMD isn't on par with Intel anymore. To be honest, I don't see how they ever could be anymore. They're far behind, and again, short on results. Look at the debacle that just happened with their recently released Bulldozer CPU not being able to utilize all its cores properly in Windows 7.

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yagermonster

hope it brings the new chip set with PCI-E 3.0 for AMD we been waiting for

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Supall

In b4 the AMD hate wagon.

We'll see how much AMD improves with Piledriver. Hopefully, the performance will justify the cost when they get released. (Piledriver will be AM3, right?)

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EKRboi

I sure hope they will be AM3, though I have read mixed things. I pretty much upgraded mobo's in order to be ready for bulldozer.. but ended up sticking with my 1090t after they came out.. I do know that the APUs that will be sporting piledriver cores will be a new FM2 socket.. maybe someone with definite info could chime in?

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Strhopper

It will be AM3+

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Gezzer

Kind of like the AM2+?
Yeah I got bitten by that one myself, twice. In theory a AM2+ processor will run in a AM2 board if, and that's a real big if, you get a BIOS update. Well neither my ASUS or my MSI got one, and that was another reason I jumped ship to Intel.
I'd rather they say "needs a new MB" then "may work with your old MB". AMD's "backwards compatibility" is more marketing then actuality in my experience, but your experience may vary.

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Strhopper

I don't know what you are talking about? Intel releases new sockets much more often then AMD. Bulldozer was am3+ and so will piledriver. That's two generations on the same socket.

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Nimrod

that not AMDs fault you idiot

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Supall

I don't know how you got screwed with the BIOS update, but I had an MSI K9A2 (the first iteration) and I was able to utilize an AM3 processor on it after a BIOS update.

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