AMD's New Catalyst 11.8 Drivers Enhance Overclocking Controls, Black Ops Performance

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SnuffThePunkz

I ran 11.8 pre-release in the BF3 alpha, and while I got maybe an extra 4-5 fps with it, it made other games I played much worse. BC2 turned into a glitchy mess, game would shudder on load for like 4 seconds moving at like 5 fps when a match started. I'd swing my knife, and my guy would freeze, then start moving, which would result in my being shot. Among a number of other issues, headshotting an enemy, seeing it hit, then watching them walk away, etc. I downgraded to 11.7, the game returned to running smoothly again.

Judging from the comments, I'm in no rush to try it again.

On a side not, 20% better performance on Black Ops? Why is this even relevant? My XFX HD5850 (overclocked to 950/1250) paired with a Phenom X2 555 (unlocked to 3 cores, overclocked to 4.0ghz), ran this game maxed out settings wise x8 AA, at 1080p and held over 60fps. It looked like crap, I went back and played MW2, and it looked better. Look at steam's online player lists, MW2 a game made in 09 still has more players than it.

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Gezzer

Found out something pretty interesting with BF2 and newer Catalyst drivers for anyone that might care.

I tried a couple of things while using 11.8. One being turning off Catalyst A.I. which is supposed to have driver level fixes for games. Didn't help. Un-installed 11.8 and then re-installed 11.3. Didn't bother with settings thinking a complete uninstall would wipe them. It didn't. Fire up BF2 with 11.3, still flickering in BF2. I go WTF?? Check driver panel, A.I. is still disabled. Enable it and flickering goes away. Seems another games fix wrecked one for BF2 some how.

Sent feedback to AMD and the balls in their court now. Hope they give a sh@t and actually fix it. 

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Hamburger

 

I’ve been running the 11.7 drivers just fine, but I saw these new 11.8 drivers and decided to update in order to stay current.  Well I got a BSOD after installing them.  After recovering from the BSOD, and ATI error message stating no ATI Display detected popped up.  So I rebooted, removed the drivers, then rebooted into safe mode with networking, ran Driver Sweeper to clean out all things ATI, restarted the computer, and reinstalled the 11.8 drivers.  No BSOD this time but still getting the error that no ATI Display is installed. Removed the 11.8 drivers and reinstalled 11.7 and working fine again.  Guess I'll give 11.8 drivers a miss. 

This on a Phenom II x6 3.4ghz running WIn7 64-bit wit hthe Radeon 6970. 

 

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Danthrax66

The problem is the Control Center nt the drivers they forgot to update CCC to detect the new drivers. As for BSOD is happens sometimes :D

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Hamburger

They forgot to update CC to detect the new drivers? omg Sloppy work.

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Gezzer

Not too thrilled with AMD on the driver front at the moment,

Since 11.4 the drivers have produced ugly shadow coruption in BF2 on HD 4xxx cards. Their response, old card, old game, so use the older drivers because there's no advatage with the newer ones for the 4xxx series.

Well sure I guess, but I also have a couple of games, like King's Bounty the Legend, for example that receive bug fixes in the newer releases. Sure my HD 4870 512MB is a few generations out, but it still runs all most ever game I can buy today.

Okay, so using driver "tweeks" to improve the preformance of current generation cards makes some sense from a company viewpoint. But why at the expense (I assume that's how the BF2 bug crept in), of users of older hardware. And then decided to not bother fixing the problem. Wasn't having drivers that work for a multitude of hardware supposed to be a good thing for the users of all the cards supported? It looks like though the drivers do work on the 4xxx cards we're still considered legacy cards and not worth bug chasing for. Why even bother if your just going to screw the card drivers up?  I'd rather see when this might happen that they spin off a set of fully bug tested drivers for the generation in question and then tell us "that's the last driver for that series unless we find bugs in the next year or six months". That way older cards will have the best drivers they could have and these PoS "unified drivers" can be used to support the cards they want to support.

I wish I could state that this is a AMD problem only, but Nvidia can be just as bad in my experiance. I'm waiting for the 28nm cards to drop before I pull the trigger and replace my old war horse. I'm just not sure if I go for AMD because they're supposed to come out first (getting tired of waiting) or wait some more to see what Nvidia brings to the table. Either way I'm pretty sure I'll be dealing with buggy video drivers, <sigh>

 

P.S. Well since I've checked the AMD forums and no one's decided to be the "guinea pig" I guess I'll have to give them a try. Not too hoprful though 

EDIT- Of course they didn't work. Well I've decided I'll keep trying with every new release, but won't buy an AMD card till it's fixed. If they don't fix it and a juicy Nvidia card comes out, well I guess I'll jump ship. Will Nvidia do a better job on the driver front? Who knows, but its worth a shot.

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Danthrax66

And you think Nvidia caters to older games/older generation cards? You should never upgrade drivers unless you are experiencing stability or fps issues. Just like on Sound Cards you use the drivers on the disc unless you have problems.

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Gezzer

Yeah I said as much didn't I. My problem is the new drivers have fixes for other games I play. Plus this is something AMD broke, not didn't bother to fix at all. Now their saying that too bad so sad. In fact I've tracked it down as I said in my other post. So if AMD fixes it I'll stick with them. If they don't well maybe go Nvidia this time, might, might not, have better luck.

P.S. I know it's a long post and I'm sorry about that, but if you had read it all you would of noticed the above facts I'd mentioned :P

P.P.S. I never use the drivers on the CDs. Everyone know they're always way out of date. And with sound cards the bloat the CD drivers add is just criminal.

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