AMD's Mobile Trinity APUs to Ship Later This Month, Desktop Chips in August

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burntham77

"AMD's 40nm tablet PC processors"

A Windows 8 tablet with that sort of hardware in it... now I'm paying attention.

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limitbreaker

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azuza001

I don't think AMD has much chance at pulling ahead for the next few years. At most all Piledriver can do is pull them up closer to last years Intel stuff.

Having said that depending on what you do with your computer that may be all they need. Gaming depends mostly on the graphics card nowdays, and the old Barton 3200+ processors are still more than enough to browse the web and email. And in the mobile market AMD's APU's kill Intels offerings thanks to their better graphics core.

Here's hoping that AMD go's back to the drawing board and looks at how they can compete in a different light in the desktop market. They did it after they bought ATI (remember when ATI said they were not going to compete in the high end anymore after the 2900? Then the 3000 series came out and were pretty good bang for your bucks even if they couldn't compete with the high end Nvidia. Then the 4000 series came out and things started to change). They did the same thing years ago when it was AMD's Bartons vs P4's, the Intel choice was hotter but better for a lot of things thanks to hyper-threading. Then AMD came out with the A64 set and it was a whole new ball game. Thats what AMD needs, another game changer.

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Rift2

I was going to go the IVY Bridge route but I opted for a AM3+ board and using the AM3 Phenom processor I have.

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limitbreaker

You'll have to wait another 5 months for am3+ desktop cpu that's worth upgrading to.

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limitbreaker

That's good news, it'll also give us some clear benchmarks to compare bulldozer and piledriver ipc difference. If we actually get 15% better performance clock for clock it'll actually save this messy architechture.

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Sierra11784

When Bulldozer first came out I was excited to see if AMD could actually go toe to toe with Intel again, but we all know how that turned out. AMD hyped up the new architecture as game changing; new micro cores for more efficient processing and power savings, higher cpu core frequencies etc. Benchmarks showed otherwise, but I think Piledriver could improve some of the shortcomings. After all the negative reviews of the FX series chips I've tried to figure out where AMD went wrong by scouring BD threads on tom's hardware and andtech and found some info that explains some of the deficiencies in the chips.

The basic micro-core architecture developed for BD by itself is actually a good concept, however AMD ran into issues with the chipset that ended up being locked in before they could fix the design prior to fabrication and shipping. On top of that AMD didn't work with software developers to the extent they should have, so a lot of programs and games aren't optimized to take advantage of BD's basic architecture.

I'm hoping AMD pulled out all the stops in trying to rectify any of the previously mentioned issues with Piledriver. I know the new chips probably won't match cpu specs in every benchmark as Intel, but if they come close enough and actually work with developers to optimize software for these new chips so everything runs smoothly I'll be dropping a new FX-8300 in my rig. I especially like the fact that the new Piledriver core based FX series will be equiped with intergrated Radeon HD-7000 graphics that can be asymetrically cross fired with a 7000 series gpu for an additional performance boost.

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limitbreaker

Actually I don't think the rumors are true about the intergrated igp in the am3+ socket because that chipset simply can't control it and I would rather amd uses the die area for more modules than to waste it on an igp, specially because I have a 3d vision setup and its unlikely that id stray away from nvidia. Also to point out that having a 7000 series purely for crossfire would mean that you'll be limited to only a select gpu to take advantage of it and if you want to upgrade one day you'll have let 1/3 of your cpu go to waste.
I'm sorry for having to respectfully disagree with you.

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Sierra11784

I know that if I go the next gen FX route with asymetrical crossfire I'd be stuck with AMD gpu's to take advantage of it. I'm ok with that. At the moment Nvidia's chips aren't that much faster than AMD's current line up and driver updates and over clocking could eventually make those differences in performance negligible. Plus the 7000 series is a little less expensive than Nvidia's offerings and hopefully the new FX chips will follow suit in terms of pricing with Intel. I'm trying to not go overboard and break the bank with my upgrade.

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Sierra11784

I know that if I go the next gen FX route with asymetrical crossfire I'd be stuck with AMD gpu's to take advantage of it. I'm ok with that. At the moment Nvidia's chips aren't that much faster than AMD's current line up and driver updates and over clocking could eventually make those differences in performance negligible.

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Sierra11784

Crap. Sorry, double post.

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