AMD Talks Up 3rd Generation Bulldozer Core Called Steamroller, Promises Better Branch Prediction

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Deviate

Nah, lets call it "Cleveland Steamer"

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UglyNerdMan

i said the same thing on toms hardware lolol.

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John Pombrio

Paul,
Brad and I have been wondering about how AMD and NVidia were doing in discrete graphics shipments. Here is the answer:
http://www.techspot.com/news/49946-discrete-gpu-shipments-down-in-q2-amd-regains-market-share.html

BTW, where is Brad? His last post was 7/27/12.

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vrmlbasic

I hope that this will still be compatible with my Gigabyte AM3+ motherboard...

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limitbreaker

I have a feeling that it will, based on previous socket types and generation update itll probably be a am4 cpu and am3+ compatible but we wont know until the time comes.

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vistageek

I have an fx-8150 on a 990fx chipset, and it supports ddr3 2200mhz and sataIII and usb 3, so I don't see why they would require new mobos.

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warptek2010

AMD's future, I believe, lies in the APU. With the powerhouse graphics chip they incorporate in their APU (powerhouse when compared to the Intel offering)This is the perfect processor for next gen consoles, htpc's, notebooks, etc... All they need to do is increase performance while decreasing the power requirements on an incremental 'tic' level. Smaller die size(22nm) would definitely be a step in the right direction. AMD, the little company that could or the tortoise to Intels hare.

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Chronologist

APU's are definitely an interesting step, but they're an anomaly in my opinion. Stacked against an i3, A8's lose out by double digits in CPU related benchmarks. Put the chips through graphical tests, the APU stomps out a win.

While that may seem acceptable at first, the APU suffers from a relatively high tdw of 100w. Additionally, because of the poor thermal performance, the top-of-the-line A8-3570K is only clocked in at 3 ghz. (comparatively, a baseline i3 2125 has a tdw of 65, and a baseline i5 3450 77tdw) Still fast, to be sure, but it pales in comparison to the likes of its cousin FX line, which clock in closer to 4.0 ghz.

So there still are major trade offs at this level.

I'd only really go with an APU as an htpc. Notebooks, i'll take an intel proc for power efficiency; maybe even an ARM core. As for gaming consoles, I'd pray that they never fall down to the point of just settling for APU's over discrete chips.

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vrmlbasic

I remember reading an article, sadly I don't think it was here, about AMD's goal to allow the APU and CPU to directly access the same regions of RAM and so the APU could do all of the floating-point ops for the CPU, a high-tech version of the discreet "math coprocessor" of yesteryear.

I'm pretty sure it was on Tom's Hardware as the article also interviewed Adobe techs on their thoughts, I'll have to find it again, but in it said techs mentioned that while the APU is generally less powerful than a discreet card that the high time cost of moving data to and fro the GPU from main memory is (and will be once true DMA is implemented) will make it less practical than the APU. The APU is slated to give us truly usable floating-point crunching power, at levels that no Intel i-whatever processor can touch.

Of course, we're not there yet. :(

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LatiosXT

While I still don't think AMD is going down the right path by thinking generic use computers are about cores, I did find a stretch of hope for them with their scheduler update for this.

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