AMD Starts Shipping Trinity And Brazos 2.0 APUs To Manufacturers

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Ghost XFX

With Intel Trolls, AMD is "Damed if we do, damned if we don't.", so why should they be so concerned with what Intel supporters think? You'll bitch and complain til your heart's content. And when they put something else out, you'll bitch, gripe and complain even more, and go on to contend Intel has it beaten by light years, blah, blah, blah,. Really, Intel trolls, go back to your damn caves til you can act civilized.

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OCFRED

Sounds like the Atom's days are numbered, thank goodness OEM now have another, superior options. Don't really care about benchmarks other than heat and power consumption and seriously anything is faster than all the weak net books stinking up the low end for the past few years that most phones and tabs overpower with ease.

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OCFRED

Yeah I actually picked up a Toshiba running one before this semester and put it right back in the box the next day, better off running a live CD with a wobbly power socket than stuck limping on down the shoulder of the information superhighway on the rim (CDB, uneasy rider).

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kixofmyg0t

Atom's day were numbered when it was released. It woulda been great had it came out in 2005.

I bought a HP Netbook back in 09 because I was bored and wanted something new to play with. What a bad idea.

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vrmlbasic

Amen to that.

Atom blows. Intel might have the most powerful processor on the consumer market right now, but they also have what is hands-down the worst. A processor so bad that they should be ashamed. Maybe it's not a fair comparison, but my Android phone beats the hell out of my Atom netbook. Fair comparison or not, that's certainly sad.

The Atom can't even handle many streaming video sites, which makes these netbooks unable to use the "net" for much beyond Wikipedia, and even that has issues. Loading all the Facebook integration, ads, and all the other "fancy" stuff on the MaximumPC page in firefox is slow on the Atom. Even loading the full Gmail interface or editing simple spreadsheets in Google Docs has the Atom screaming for mercy.

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kixofmyg0t

What's funny is my PHONE(a Droid Bionic) hooked up to it's Lapdock is faster than my old Atom powered Netbook....which was running Ubuntu and had 4 times the amount of RAM and a extra 600Mhz per core.

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livebriand

I hope these become more common place in regular laptops than the previous APUs did. They're good for what they are (well-rounded budget options). For instance, my E350 netbook kicks the ass off any Intel Atom netbook, and is good enough at surfing the internet.

I wonder how well Piledriver will compare to Ivy Bridge though... we can all hope I guess.

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mdjasek

exactly; quiet and able to do some gaming on laptop

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kixofmyg0t

Well if you're meaning Trinity(because it's Piledriver based), in CPU tasks Ivy Bridge will be faster.

But anything to do with graphics and the tables turn quick. It's bad too. Llano is still faster than Ivy Bridge in graphic related tasks.

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aarcane

Yeah, but if you actually care about graphics you have a discrete GPU anyway, so graphics is a truly moot point.

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kixofmyg0t

But if you actually care about graphics you wouldn't have a laptop, you would spend $5,000 building a desktop so your point is moot.

Really guy?

Maybe everyone doesn't want to spend that much on a laptop. "but if you actually care about graphics" So it's no graphics at all for you or buy a discreet GPU huh? No middle ground.

I care about graphics and Trinity can game just fine on a 1366x768 or 1600x900 res laptop LIKE IT'S MEANT FOR. What is the point of having a GTX 580M(and spending the money to get it)if you have a 15" 720p laptop?!?

If you actually care about graphics, give me a break dude. Grow up.

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JohnP

And bright and early Monday morning, Lloyd is going to have a post right above this one ^ with the review for the i7-3770K. Heady days ahead.
In the meantime, the news about Trinity has been exciting, so there will be a horse race here. Good for AMD!

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Strhopper

I'm hoping this brings "ultra book" like notebooks with decent mobile gaming.

Fingers crossed

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azuza001

The whole AMD can't beat I5 or I7 stuff is just a matter of perspective. Yes, the I5 is typically faster than a Bulldozer CPU or any APU that AMD has. But for what it's meant to do the AMD APU's are great. My parents and grandmother are still rocking PCs from 2001 with Windows XP because they just use the net. You don't NEED a massive machine to type in Word or go to facebook.

These will be nice for what they do, but they are not designed to take out an I5 Sandy Bridge. They are meant to be low cost power efficient machines that will do anything a standard user would do and then maybe a little more if said user finds their interest in different things starting to expand.

Go AMD. Become profitable again, then you can look at where you can expand your business.

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Hilarity

Fuck Intel. The APU is perfectly balanced for what its built for - an grunty office system or HTPC. Its not built for encoding 1080p porn @ 60FPS+ on the second x264 pass. I built a Llano system in February 2012 and I'm perfectly satisfied. I'll upgrade when APU's have at the minimum GCN cores up in them and possibly HSA. My Phenom 2 is still going strong too for at least another year until Piledriver hits. Intel this and Intel that. You don't NEED Intel.

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kixofmyg0t

This is awesome news. I've been waiting on Trinity to replace my aging Turion X2 powered laptop.

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Ilander

I assume the interns are busily assembling a machine to benchmark with, then. Been entirely too long since I've seen a scientifically tested benchmark on MPC... :-S

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AETAaAS

I'm interested in seeing laptops powered by AMD's BGA chips to see if some more competition can be had in the Ultrabook range.

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Supall

Unlike the guy underneath me, this is awesome news. Can't wait to see the Trinity benchmarks and whether or not we will have a need for discrete graphics on low budget gaming PCs.

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warptek2010

Nah, you know what? F benchmarks. If AMD can sell a decent 4,6,8 core APU that does everything that an Intel I whatever can do and at a substantial savings then more power to them. I don't need benchmarks to tell me if a platform can run Win 7, a virtual machine once in awhile, a DX10 or 11 title here and there and of course run a web browser concurrently with Libreoffice. If I'm running a workstation server at home than maybe I'd look at the benchmarks.
But you know what? It's not official until JohnP has some denigrating comments to say about AMD because as we all know about his undying love for Intel and Nvidia.

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carage

Being first to the market doesn't mean much, especially if we know the competitor will answer within a short time.
Besides, being first to market doesn't mean it doesn't suck.
Apparently the top Trinity offering is still playing catchup to the Sandy Bridge i5.
Come back again when AMD has something that can compete with i7.
http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/287623-%E7%A7%BB%E5%8B%95%E7%89%88Trinity-APU%E6%88%90%E7%B8%BE%E5%86%8D%E7%88%86%EF%BC%9A%E5%BC%B7%E6%96%BCi3

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Strhopper

APU's aren't meant to compete with Sandy.

That's what bulldozer is supposed to do. You can argue that it doesn't do that good of a job but don't compare a APU to Sandy. You just look dumb.

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carage

Your logic sounds exactly like a fanboy...

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Pruneface

Enough with all this "fanboy" crap. Some people like one thing, others like different things. It's like you guys are getting all huffy over Star Trek and Star Wars.

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Strhopper

why am I a fanboy when I said bulldozer doesn't compete. *shakes head*

what is it with fan boy wars. Never understood showing loyalty to one brand. They don't show me any loyalty. I'm just dollar signs

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vrmlbasic

The APUs _slaughter_ the criminally weak Intel Atom. I'm not sure if I can ever forgive Intel for the God-awful performance that is the Atom. I bought a Netbook and the thing is inferior to a ~10 year old P4 system. Intel's graphics are also unforgivable. My work PCs run an older 4-core Xeon proc (which doesn't rank much above the Phenom II from benchmarks that I can find) and while they have respectable, if not cutting edge, CPU power, the integrated graphics cripple 'em.

I'd love to have an APU driven netbook. I like the battery life and the form factor, but I'd love to have a long-lasting small computer which can actually DO something. Intel couldn't deliver on that.

The netbook chokes on a game that is almost 12 years old (Tribes 2), and the Intel Atom's "HD" graphics not only can't handle basic web browsing at 1920*1080 but they can't even play older microsoft games like Freelancer without hardware-induced graphical glitches.

Such poor performance is unforgivable.

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gatorXXX

My Acer Aspire One netbook suuuuucks when it comes to graphics...hell, it sucks when it comes to anything except surfing the net. But it's good for the wife to look up recipies, read email, and general surfing when watching our 2 1/2 year old son. Comes in handy for her. But like you said, poor performance is unforgivable and to believe that intel tried to make Atom a total standard in 10.1" or less lap/netbooks.

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vrmlbasic

It sucks as I really do like the portability of the netbook and the battery life. I could really do for a higher res screen, but the crap Intel "HD" graphics can't even handle 1024*600. I might just have to pick up another small laptop with these new APUs once they're on the market. Then I could have a conveniently portable PC that can actually do something.

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