AMD Rolls Out Richland Desktop APUs

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vrmlbasic

I was really hoping that AMD would up the supported memory speed to 2133+ Mhz across all the chips, having seen other benchmarks showing what 2133 (achieved via overclocking, non-native) could do. We have a bounty 2133 Mhz RAM-AMD even has its own brand of it-and we have some bandwidth-starved APUs. Seemed logical to me. Oh well.

I'd like to see some tests with native 2133 Mhz RAM though.

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borkbork

Am I the only one who doesn't understand why Sony/Microsoft chose the mobile version(Jaguar)over this? Seems like the logical choice for an APU where battery life isn't an issue..

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QUINTIX256

Manufacturability. You do not see Global Foundries making 32nm SOI midrange (10+ compute units) GPUs yet. We _might_ see an 8 compute unit 28nm APU sometime next year, or if things go well at the end of this year. TSMC is already making jaguar APUs and huge GPU dies. It's not far fetched to combine the two and even go for a different fab, say Samsung.

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wumpus

That and cost. I couldn't get a good figure for the size of a piledriver core, but it appears to be at least 10 times the size of a jaguar. As long as you can keep pumping up the parallelism (and since both P4 and Xbone will have the same architecture, developers will try) the jaguar based chips will go faster for less money, chip area, and heat generated.

A bulldozer is listed as 319mm without any GPU. Try stuffing a GPU capable of pushing out graphics at 1080p and you will have a chip that can't be made anywhere for any price. I can't imagine the PS4 shipping with a 319mm chip, but they might even get that high with 8 jaguars and a GPU. Any more would sink the console.

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Ilander

...They have been talking about cloud-acceleration, and that might be their excuse to use it, and obtain an additional fee. They know that 2K and 4K televisions are on the horizon. Whatever this generation of consoles looks like at the beginning, it will look quite different on the back-end.

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vrmlbasic

No, you're not.

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renodude18

Doesn't seem like they changed much over Trinity.. Except maybe a little extra speed and a little bit more L2 Cache for the Richland A10... Not really worth an upgrade to me.

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darkslasher

Paul did you forget your audience? you don't need to spell out AMD and APU (OK you didn't for me I've been following the AMD news and seen it used several times so I'll give you half credit on that one.)

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devin3627

its a formal article for all consumers.

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Ilander

Guru3d has benchmarks (hope MPC does at some point, it's good to check them versus several sites).

Looks like the new A10 can play some mainstream games at 1080p, usually at medium settings. Not bad at all, honestly, I'd say it's comparable to an XBox 360. Just, with new consoles and better performing options up the chain, it should be viewed as an entry-level option. But, it is justified in saying that the A10 replaces the bottom tier of discrete GPUs. Too bad it costs about the same as them and comes attached to an "okay" processor. An ivy-bridge Pentium plus discrete is probably still a better choice, even up to $165 for the pair, and be competitive on power usage,too.

So, interesting, but they're still for pretty narrow usage cases.

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tom_m

Keep in mind that almost all 360 games are upscaled from 720p or lower :)

But yeah, I think most discrete GPU people will be getting a 965 or a 6300.

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kixofmyg0t

It's comparable to a 7750, which has more shaders.

GCN 2.0 is looking pretty good.

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Philippe Lemay

What I really want to know is how these are going to stack up against the new Intel HD 5000 iGPU.

I'm helping a friend with his budget build and I think modern iGPUs should be enough to run his 720p screen. Can't afford proper discrete, unfortunately.

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vrmlbasic

I think that you need to introduce your friend to one of the many budget 1080 screens first and foremost. The only people who truly love 720 screens are optometrists.

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TheMissingPiece

Are we going to see a review on these chips? I know they're not "Maximum PC" parts, but they are worth noting, if only for their remarkable graphics prowess.

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yorchata

I think they're certainly MaximumHTPC worthy. Integrated graphics could be fantastic for these kind of builds, or perhaps even the cheapo $500 PC build.

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