AMD Reaffirms Commitment to Socketed CPUs Through At Least 2014

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truck87bp

I been trying to Contact 2 people at AMD to show them how to stack CPU's thru the web site LinkedIn and can't get a reply. I am sure my design will change the desktop PC and server world for x86 computers. I guess they could care less about something new. Chekib Akrout, do you even care about AMD?

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BMDC

Its unbelievable how many people are misinformed in these comments.

AMD cannot and has not been able to keep up with Intel for quite some time now.

For example, in the aspect of gaming yes, an FX-8350 will deliver similar benchmarks to the similarly priced i5 3570k, but it is in very very few ways faster. Games today use very little CPU resources, because most of them are console ports.

That being said, even in most applications, such as synthetic benchmarks, and video editing the 3570k STILL beats AMD's counterpart in many tasks because of superior architecture. Intel based mid to low end motherboards also support features that many high end AMD boards wont even have for a while, such as PCI-E 3.0.

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lordfirefox

Since when have synthetic benchmarks ever mattered? "Oh look I can run a synthetic benchmark program faster than you." Yeah? Who cares. What matters is real-world performance and in real-world performance It doesn't matter what chip you go with so long as it runs and you're happy.

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Peanut Fox

Now that I think about it, maybe it'll be a focus for NUC type machines. Small form factor PCs.

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andrewc513

Glad that we're sticking with what works. That said, if you look at current trends in computing, I'd bet almost everything will be SoC-based by 2020, save for high-end workstations. Heck, we're practically there now.

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renodude18

I doubt that they will make it a standard, It will prob just be an alternative to LGA boards for those that don't plan to change the processor out at any time. Although I see that having that option is still good to have considering boards can die out at anytime. As for the Intel or AMD thing, It's stupid to say who is better. IT'S WHO IS BETTER FOR HOW YOU YOURSELF USE YOUR OWN SYSTEM. Just become product A is better for some purposes compared to Product B does not mean that it is better for how I use my system.

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zeroibis

The real issue is when your motherboard breaks but your $1500 cpu is still good. I have used the same cpu on 3 boards. Two where DOA and one of them blew up. In all cases these boards alone were $400-500 but it I was replacing the cpu each time too it would be madness. Not to mention that I was able to prove it was the board by placing the cpu in another system and then trying that systems cpu in the test boards. Lastly we know they will likely not try this on the server market for the same reason.

The ability to easily replace broken parts quickly is what matters most.

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Peanut Fox

We'd probably see fewer high end niche boards like those from EVGA, Asus, and Gigabyte as the cost of board manufacturing is going to include a CPU making it a riskier proposition.

Is the only benefit cost for Intel, or will there be significant performance gains in this design?

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jason2393

The only difference (between identical chips) is that one is soldered, the other is not. This wouldn't make anything faster.

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Dexter243

Every one knocks amd you have to understand that even buy todays system amb makes some damn fast cpu's that will with ease run any game you throw at it BUT intell maks some that are even faster but most people do not build cutting edg systems they build mid level or even budget systems and in that group amd and intell are a mader of choice and cost not who is the fastist because both give you full options in that category and for the best budget buck amd is the bigist bang

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vrmlbasic

I like the flexibility of the current system as I can choose a motherboard that best fits my needs (AMD only) and combine it with the best processor I can get in it.

Having to buy the motherboard and CPU as one unit could really blow as I would lose the flexibility to get what I want on a motherboard, and lose the option to buy a board with eSata connectors, say. Or, if Intel were to revert to its proprietary ways and adopt BGA, I could be forced into buying a board with only Thunderbolt, no USB 3 and maybe even SATA II ports (!!) if I want to get their latest & greatest.

Feature choice is why I'm with AMD with my current build. Cost/performance is second. I like flexibility.

IMO we could stand to get a newer, better AMD chipset than the 990FX already. That could use some focus.

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jason2393

Is BGA really that much worse than creating a new LGA socket every couple of years? I don't know about everybody else, but I generally use my computer as-is until the whole thing is ready for an upgrade, and then I just replace the whole computer.

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cmasupra

There are many advantages to a socket. Here's a couple (1 of which you mentioned)
1) We can choose our motherboard independent of the CPU, and vice versa, giving us more motherboard options.
2) We can upgrade our CPU farther down the road for slightly more performance. I have many friends who do that because they can't afford a full upgrade very often. I've even been strongly considering upgrading my i7 920 to an i7 980X or such.

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jason2393

From what I can tell, the 980X is still a very expensive processor. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to simply replace the proc and motherboard with 1155 or 2011 parts?

Maybe Intel's multiple socket strategy has been to get us used to the idea of replacing the motherboard when we need more performance?

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warptek2010

So, what does the INTELligencia think about this?

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