Amazon Cuts Off Connecticut Following Sales Tax Dispute

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kaspern

The problem with america is that we have 70 yr old farts running this country still stuck in the 50's WE need to get these assholes out. Liberman ahemmm

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kris79

Good! Although the 50's music wasn't all that bad...

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kaspern

This is exactly why I left CT and never looked back. Bunch of greedy politicians, they get millions from the casinos for free, they get millions from vehicle property taxes, 50 cent a gallon tax, state tax on top of federal tax on your hard earned money and somehow they still are in a deficit. Im still laughing at the people living there. Do yourselves a favor a get out. Im with silencer on this one, GO AMAZON

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daveny5

How is it that Republicans think that the way to solve a debt problem is to lower income? That's like saying if I can't afford my house payment and debt, I should ask my business to lower my salary. That doesn't make any sense at all and that's why President Obama will easily win in 2012. 

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Century22

Republicans?

Lowering taxes bosted our economy when John Kennedy was president.

Lower taxes puts more money in people's pockets instead of in government.

People spend the extra money that stimulates the economy, thereby INCREASING revinue for the government.

It has worked every time it has been tried.

Perhaps you did not know that president Kennedy was a democrat?

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KenLV

But when you LOWER taxes on producers and investors you INCREASE gross revenue – happens time and again.  Now I’m sure you will argue that when Regan et. al. did lower taxes on the “evil wealthy” (you know, the people who actually EMPLOY folks and BUILD things) our deficits increased.  And you would be correct.  BUT, that is because Congress (both chambers and BOTH PARTIES) continues to SPEND us into the poor house.  That’s right, even though we took in MORE MONEY we ended up with LESS because Congress (again, BOTH parties) pays for votes by granting a never ending stream of entitlements and “favors”.

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QuantumLeap

Republicans aren't saying "Lower my income," what they're saying is, "Maybe we should have purchased a house we can afford."  To further your analogy, you can't keep going back to the boss every week and ask for more money because you need a new shiny toy.

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daveny5

I don't mind paying sales tax when I buy on the web. I still save money by not having to drive somewhere and fight the crowds to buy merchandise that I can have delivered to my front door. Most companies have free or cheap delivery.

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JohnP

Y'know, 23 comments and not one mentions the fact that I, as a Connecticut resident, am required by law to pay CT state sales tax on all purchases made with Amazon. No excuses, no exceptions. Buy a $50 power supply and pay the state $3 come tax time. There is a large box on my CT tax form that clearly states to list ALL out of state purchases. Mind you, there is NO WAY that I will do this without being dragged into an audit. The state realizes this and is trying to proactively get me to PAY THE TAX I OWE. Nothing wrong with that. Amazon is just a hel'a'lot easier to go after than a guy who owes $90 in lost sales tax each year. I agree that Amazon should NOT be singled out but really, how else can the state force taxes to be collected unless it tries?

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yr

Look at Budget situations in NY, NJ and CA (and several others for sure), where political spending is out of control. Politicians take a few bucks from dishonest lobbies and screw their constituents in the millions. These 3 and many other states are talking about BANKRUPTCY! 

The only way crooked politicians know how to "save themselves" is to raise taxes to fill the budget gap to keep the "gravy trains" rolling and the "pork handouts" coming.

Now CT joins the other states that lost jobs and revenue because Amazon left. Should have seen that coming. I hope that anyone who lost their job doesn't vote the same idiot back into office...

But then again, (QUOTE from Alexandra Petri, The Washington Post 6/21/2011) "After all, the American voting pool has the approximate maturity of a five-year-old with severe ADD."

The only ones who lose are US. (It's a good thing that Amazon has at least 5 states to stay in should it have to move out of the other 45, because some people [and ALL politicians] just don't get it.)

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Carlidan

"We opposed this new tax law because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive,"

 

Please tell me where in the consitution that this law is unconstitutional? I like how when people don't want to pay their taxes they use the consitutuion as a basis for not paying them. Now you can say it might be counterprodutive. That could be a vaild point.

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Alecthar

A ruling of the Supreme Court is considered a ruling on constitutional law, so Amazon is claiming that the "Amazon Tax" is in violation of the 1992 Supreme Court decision referenced above.  So, if the law is in violation of that ruling, then it's in violation of constitutional law and thus the Constitution.

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yr

Oh, and I've lost count how many times politicians TRAMPLE our constitution (http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html) and bill of rights (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/pages/BoR_image_repro.htm).

But then again, those are sooo old-school.

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Alecthar

Don't get me wrong, I love taxes, I think we should be taxing certain segments of our population vastly more than we do.  Americans, especially high income earners, are taxed significantly less than in the majority of developed nations, and all that money back in our pockets has bought us crumbling infrastructure, a rapidly shrinking social welfare system (which isn't just benefits for the jobless, but also providing an income and medical care for citizens in the twilight of their lives) and a health care system that can help you lose 100 pounds and get a new face, but won't give wide support to the underpriviliged unless they've got a gunshot wound, and then only at enormous personal expense.

But with all that said, this "Amazon Tax" stuff is ridiculous.  Such taxes will, once again, fall disproportionately on middle and lower class citizens, because what rich person spends big cash on Amazon?  No one with real money is going to end up paying 6% sales tax, no matter what state they happen to live in, and that's assuming they even spend their money in country.

But I doubt any of this will go away until we come to the conclusion as a nation that our system of federal and state government has to fundamentally change.  The way states operate has become extraordinarily wasteful, and the sometimes vast disparity between states in spending priorities, school quality, and even taxation explains a large number of our governmental woes.

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BluePhoton

"As both run out of states to cut ties with, this could be an issue that, once again, will be up to the Supreme Court to decide."

Well, they could always simply retreat to the NOMAD states with no sales tax:
New Hampshire, Oregon, Montana, Alaska, and Delaware

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Deviate

Amazon = 1

Communist/Socialist America = 0

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Carlidan

So your saying our country is a Communist/Socialist country. Didn't know that.

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kris79

Perhaps Amazon is still waiting for the states like Conn. to wake up to the fact that they are losing this dogfight. If there are any marginally intelligent politicians out there, maybe they will convince their other idiots that some jobs are better than no jobs. More jobs are better than fewer jobs. Some taxes are better than no taxes. Even a vegetable should be able to get it.

Amazon's final answer seems to be - "We are not going to collect taxes for all the states in the union, thank you" If they want the taxes, each states has the tax machinery in place already. Amazon will not do that work for you - dimwits...

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level1paladin

That's the problem.  Lawmakers in the information age can't even type on qwerty keyboard or know how to go to the Start Menu.   With old men that don't know anything running this thing, it's no surprise we continue to have BS legislation backed by lobbyists who are filling our lawmakers pockets with nice things just to fulfill their greed.

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kris79

however they seem to have learned how to twitter pictures of their private parts all over the internet with all that there newfangled technology. hahahaha!

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D00dlavy

I love the fact that we're taxed when we both earn and spend the same dollar.  The goods that we purchase may or may not have taxes built into the cost as well.

Triple-tax, baby.  I think the U.S. got a little lazy in the whole "fight unfair taxes" dept.

Kudos to you, Amazon.  Will shop even more there, now.

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Holly Golightly

I am always with Amazon when it comes to the sales tax dilema. It is counter-productive and hurts the poor people more than it helps. What states should do is find another way to generate more revenue.

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ChatterboxChuck

Why is it always the poor people? Everyone here in the US is equal, regardless of economic status. When we learn this then maybe  we can make things better.

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Engelsstaub

IMO everyone in the US is not equal in ways that should matter to decent human beings.

I'm not for wealth-redistribution, I'm for the rich paying the same percentage as every other class.

I'm for everyone receiving health care and treatment of equal quality regardless of wealth or social-status.

I'm for police stopping the Mercedes that went through the speed-trap with the same frequency as the ten year old Dodge Neon, rather than always preying on the poor who may be a little tardy (for understandable reason) in renewing their registrations. And as long as we're on the subject of police now: a policeman's, policewoman's, or police dog's life is NOT worth more than that of the civilian. They sign up for that shit; it's what they're paid to do voluntarily. I'm sick to death of hearing of how some "scumbag" got crucified for fighting with a cop or running over a cop's dog when women and children get less consideration in American courts.

...so I would disagree as you can read. People in the US are most certainly not equal. I could write pages, but this is a computer/tech site. Before anyone calls me a hippy pothead delinqyent or some shit please know that I was in the Military Police Corps, have never been arrested, and pay my taxes as everyone else (save for the wealthy "patriots" who ship their work/factories overseas to avoid doing so.)

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KenLV

Ah, but there is your mistake. Thought they claim they just want an “even playing field”, they don’t want equal TREATMENT, they want equal OUTCOME.  And since EVERYONE has different abilities, potential, etc… they ONLY way to END “the same” is to take from one and give to another. 

“Leveling” is ALWAYS to the LOWEST common denominator.  It brings countries and cultures DOWN, not UP.  But you will never get them to admit that despite a century of evidence of failed ”progressive” (not there’s a misnomer) experimentation.

They will argue that it’s a battle between the “haves and have nots” when in reality it’s the NATURAL differences between the “can and can nots” and WORSE, the created by ALL entitlement societies: “will do and won’ts”

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D00dlavy

But you're a commie...

 

Shouldn't you be all for the states’ gathering and redistribution of private resources?

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someuid

If Amazon says these laws are unconstitutional, why aren't they in court instead of giving up business opportunities?

Something isn't jiving here.  I think both the states and Amazon are taking us all for a ride.

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misha573

Hmmm, maybe because Amazon doesn't NEED to engage as they make sufficient money otherwise.  It affects the local affiliates that lose sales as a result and the people lose jobs (cause the state officials seem to be too stupid or lazy).

At this point its not up to Amazon to battle in the courts, its for the people...they're the ones getting the short, stinky, end of the stick.  Don't wait for the money maker to fight your battles.  Amazon won't engage until ad unless it hits them at their bottom line.  The people getting hit now are the people.  The affiliates that will lose sales and their employees who'll be out of work because of it.

Just my 2 cents.  I could be very wrong...

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Carlidan

Think your wrong.... just my two cents.  If Amazon thinks the states are wrong and they are losing places to do business that will probably generate more money why wouldn't you fight? Unless your just doing business for short term gain.

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win7fanboi

jackymilan's post is a spam... seems like they have a new system which automatically attaches the article's title in the post.

 

Btw +1 for Amazon... @ssholes state officials need piece of the action to bump up their pay instead of letting the company create jobs in the state that helps the middle class.

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thepoor

People of Connecticut are retarded, they voted the same people in the office over and over again.  Even taxes raised, and now legalized crack.  When are the people wake up and stop voting for the Party?

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D00dlavy

Legalizing substances... it's about goddamn time.  Trust me, my friend, you'll see a substantial reduction in street crime.  :-)

That said, I've always wondered how some of these politicians stay in office.  Do you think voting even matters today?  It's been status quo for so long; I was beginning to think our system was broken.

smirk

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routine

When are the people of CT going to wake up and throw the rascals out?!

Malloy raised taxes when he was mayor of Stamford. Was it really a surprise he'd do it again as Governor?

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