After 30 Years, Is It Time to Bid Farewell to CDs?

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chef7734

I use cd's for losless music. Buy the cd and burn loseless to my computer for my ipod.

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Drew7

I'm an artist in Boston who sells his products on Newbury St. during the summer. And when I do, a free music mix is a part of the purchase... Which I put on CD. For that, I find the medium still "worthy". Can't really do that with USB thumb drives, SD Cards, Micro SDs... Not cost effective. So yes, I still find them very viable for what I use them for. But that's just me, and that's pretty much a moot point to everyone else.

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thematejka

CD's are very useful for audio purposes. They are cheap and don't take up a lot of space in bulk. Also audio quality is better! Unless you have large lossless files or whatever... I used CD's in my car until I got a 32gb sd card for my phone for about $20. Now all my digital music is high quality too! For distribution purposes, you reminded me that the CD is worthy for at least one more purpose.

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Ilander

There were CDs a while back that were advertised as lasting 100 years. For reasons like this, there's no way for that to actually happen. Same thing with DVDs. That said, while I'm okay with replacing CDs with DVDs, we need to keep the ability to read the media alive as long as possible. I know reading CDs is already phased out of some devices (weren't blu ray players incapable at first?), but the day the standard DVD player stops reading them will be a sad one. Hear me, Lite ON? Keep it!

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wolfing

Haven't used a CD in at least 2 years, so I agree, it's pretty much dead meat.

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thematejka

The only hope I see in CDs at the moment is hardware drivers. Many company websites suck at keeping drivers and their information on their websites, so driver CDs can be highly coveted. If CDs go out of style for good, every company will have to step up to the plate and make sure to offer all required software/drivers in a way that is easy online.

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Alathorne

Eventually it will need to go the way of 8-tracks, floppy disks, cassette tape, or 45's. If one is concerned about backup storage, one can store a lot more music or other data on more modern media, such as flash drives or SD cards, which could also store album art, jacket notes and the like.

I doubt the format will survive this decade but I am sure that some form of offline storage medium will be just as important in the future as it is now. The question is what industry will adopt in its stead.

If anyone wants a good deal on 3 1/2 inch disks, call me....

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Andrew.Hodge

Although I prefer the sound quality of a CD, as well as just having a phisical copy to an all digital one, I see no way that the standard is going to survive. A much as I hate to say it, CDs are dead. Just another great piece of tech Jobs destroyed in his neverending search for control of everything. I really can't even get high quality music to burn to CDs anymore because the quality of standard mp3 is "close enough" foot most. It's sad, really. Some of my fondest memories of highschool were of going every week and blowing a tenth of my paycheck on one CD (us chicken farmers don't make much). I did that until just a few years ago.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

CD's ARE an all digital copy

The biggest misconception among CD haters is that the CD players were to blame for early CD's sounding so bad

They sounded like crap mainly due to the mastering of the CD's themselves and the manufacturing quality of the disks, not the players

ACDC's Black Album and Alice Cooper's - Welcome to my Nightmare sounded like crap because the mastering was crap

Reducing the mono content in relation to the stereo content of Welcome to my Nightmare makes the CD sound a lot closer to the Album

Spit on an original CD of ZZ Top or ACDC, then let it dry, it will skip horribly and crash the player due to the horrible quality of the CD manufacturing they had

If you spit exactly the same on a Telarc or Mobile Fidelity CD, they would NOT skip or crash the player due to the much higher CD and mastering quality

If you hold the crappy CD's up to the light, you see a lot of tiny pinhole of light through the crappy layer of Aluminum

If you hold the Mobile Fidelity CD up to the light, all you see is a solid layer of Gold Film (No pinholes)

Same with Telarc but Alum instead of Gold

With Todays Software, the home user can remaster the crappy CD into a work of art that sounds remarkably better than the original CD that it came from

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Andrew.Hodge

Of course the data on CDs is all digital. That kind of goes to reason. What I meant by "all digital" is 'without physical copy'. I hoped whoever read my statement would understand that that was what I meant.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

O.k.

spitting on a ZZ Top CD was the beginning s of audio looping for me

I got some very musical loops going on that disk

spit

rinse

spit

takes a while to get it right

Sony CD players were the best for looping on back then

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Archavious

"log of money"
http://i.pbase.com/o2/27/56927/1/140672720.va400b51.DSCN00032.jpg

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jgottberg

Wow, guess I never really thought about it before but I guess it makes sense to discontinue them. HD music comes on DVD's which can be played on home theater systems and in cars, fm transmitters can be used to get the sound from a digital music player to the stereo. Quality will definitely suffer but it's still doable.

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jedisamurai

Difficult to install an OS without a disc drive. Downloads are still more expensive than discs most of the time. DRM restrictions make it a pain to use direct download solutions for many. There is no widely accepted library checkout system for digital movies and mp3s (and the systems that ARE in place require massive downloads). Until everyone has screamingly fast internet and there is a universal digital free library system for all digital media, you will always need hard copy books, music cds, and dvds. Long live free libraries!

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Caboose

"Difficult to install an OS without a disc drive. Downloads are still more expensive than discs most of the time."

Maybe if you're using an old PC that can't boot from USB, or an OS that won't install from USB. But any modern OS (heck, Linux has been able to do it for the past decade) can be installed from flash media. Eventually, it'll get to the point where you load an installer, and the rest is pulled from an online file store.

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SSquirrel

Modern Macs can have the hard drive die and when you put in a new drive it can connect and grab what is needed to install the OS to your new drive. That future you mention is already here.

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praetor_alpha

Even if CDs die, we're still left with CD quality music. Why hasn't the music industry moved beyond 44.1kHz 16-bit stereo? Everyone should have been rocking 192kHz 24-bit surround years ago, but they wanted ipods more. Dam it.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Numbers

The majority of people on the planet find that 44.1Khz - 16bit stereo is Good Enough

Its like Betamax vs VHS

Betamax was superior but VHS was good enough, less expensive and VHS movies were avail everywhere at the right price

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TechNinja49

Exactly.

People think "oh look - this music is recorded at a higher bit rate so that must mean my music is bad".

192kHz is actually worse for your hearing due to the ultrasonic frequencies it reproduces.

Here's a very informational article I found:

http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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praetor_alpha

Ultrasonic frequencies? Ever heard of a lowpass filter?

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ftldelay

They'll have to pry my music CDs from my cold, dead hands. I prefer to buy all my music on CD. I like getting the booklet and artwork and the higher quality of a CD vs the digital formats. With the digital-only files, I'd always worry about having good backups or paying for a cloud service. With CDs, I'm not locked into a particular format and can rip it to whatever I want. Just my $.02 worth...

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maxeeemum

Me too!

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sojrner

I still buy CDs as I actually like quality sound. I rip them to flac (using Exact Audio Copy, via suggestion from MaxPC many moons ago) and then archive the CD (just in case I need to re-rip) in one of a few large folders. The new digital file is tagged properly during the rip, complete w/ album cover. Once in FLAC, converting to mp3 or any other format is simple and quick, whether I need to share songs w/ my poor apple-blockaded brethren or need to put it on my wife's fuze. (space saving and at the gym with all the other noise, quality becomes moot) For me, mp3s are vastly inferior and I choose them only when I have no other option. (some underground or imported music is that way)

I will continue to buy music this way as lossless is not actively sought by most consumers and so it is not pushed by retailers. You can get it, but it's not everywhere yet. Until Amazon and/or Apple offer DRM-free lossless, there are many out there that won't give up CDs.

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lostcause64

Same here! If I have a crash or a power surge that takes out my electronics, I'd lose everything stored that way. As long as I have it all backed up to cd/dvd, I can get it back again...

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nsvander

Amen, I still buy all my music on CD too, some stuff I even buy on vinyl as I like the warm fuzzy sound it produces.

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Strangelove_424

+1

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Sony's FIRST prototype CD players were identical to the designs I sent to them in the winter of 1975

My intent was to standardize digital disks instead of digital tapes which Sony was considering at the time

Sony's FIRST CD players were designed by me and the CD was standardized because of it

The only differences between my original designs and the first "consumer" player were;

1. Sony changed the name of my random play function to shuffle
and
2. the top loading dust cover was changed to a sliding tray

Bullwinkle J Moose
Frostbite Falls

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prince_david

Who cares about you! What about Rocky's great inventions??

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Rocky's Great Invention

http://www.youtube.com/user/OutofBoxExperience

And that was when Rockey became "Rocket" J Squirrel

http://www.motifake.com/heroes-squirrel-superman-demotivational-posters-118233.html

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Caboose

o.O

You're a crackkpot. The internet has really brought out all the kooks and weirdos, and you are the king of them all!

Go back to huffing gasoline and convincing yourself that you came up with the original (Sony) CD player, and that Microsoft is trying to steal your DNA or some crap!

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