Adobe Says Goodbye to Creative Suite, Hello to Creative Cloud

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Chaz Bermuda

Not impressed with the forced new subscription model..Adobe is not short of money..it posted almost a billion dollar net profit. It is behaving like a monopoly while using the term cloud to hide behind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hYc_SEDqw

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jackx123456789

Rushing headlong into irrelevance.

Nobody but their largest customers will pay for the subscription model.

Everyone else will steal it or start finding alternatives.

New purchases are going to go through the floor.

If this is what Adobe wants then more power to them.

If not then I can't see it lasting.

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Mark the Frank

Ok, lets get some thigs straight, i have read the comments and i had to reply to this.
1) its not cloud based as in you work on the net to access the apps.
You download the app on your computer and it checks in on you once a month via the net.

2) for the $50 a month gives you 2 licences, so you can chip in with a friend.

3) This is a great system for someone like me who could not afford the thousands of dollars and had to pirate it. For 50 bucks a month i can handle that.

I have read comments everywhere and it amazes me how some users are acting. Maybe the cs6 users who bought the software get the crap end of the deal, but everyone else really have no merit

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Vernak

As Mark pointed out, it is not SaaS. It is quite literally a download of the corresponding Creative Suite application with a C-List cloud storage share associated with it.

As someone who has personally spent an enormous amount of time navigating the high seas of enterprise software licensing, I can also assure you that managing this on the Adobe licensing portal is about as much fun as running full speed into a brick wall after downing a bottle of Viagra.

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strangelove9

Renting software?
You do realize that those $50/month become $600/year, do you?
You like having people dip in your pocket constantly? Death by a thousand cuts?
You also realize that this seemingly "low" rental cost is higher than most people pay for vital, more important stuff (like electricity, gas, car insurance)... or internet access?
Enjoy your dreamworld, in which you pay for every breath you take.

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Mark the Frank

You do realize adobe master collection is $2500? Those are funds i do not have. I use photoshop, premiere, after effects, and audition. That 50 dollars a month is 25 for me since i split it with another friend. You realize you can also pay for the full year? Go to Amazon and purchase it there. So 600 a year using the latest adobe products compared to paying $2500 and not upgrading for a long time. Do the math (seriously, do the math) the subscription service is far superior in giving access to adobe products to the masses legally, instead of pirating, and way lighter on my wallet.

Whether i "rent" the software or purchase it, what difference does it make? I have the same licence as one who purchased it. I have the apps and the files i create with it on my hard drive just like someone who purchased it. I really dont understand your arguement or anyone else who is against it.

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imagonex

This subscription model might be preferred by many out there. They wouldn't do it if they knew it would be a failure.

If it does fail (I doubt it will), then I'm sure Adobe will scrap it.

The CS6 Design Suite is $1300. I'm not sure if one can install it on 2 PC's, though. I really don't know. However, the Cloud Suite can be installed on 2 PC's and it gives you access to a lot more than CS6 Suites. When you think about it, it's not that bad a deal.

Again, it's a personal preference.

CS6 is still available for sale for those who prefer it.

As far "low" or "expensive" goes, that too is relative. Again, a personal preference for some.

In the end the consumer has a choice to buy or not to buy.

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strangelove9

With older suites like CS2 being made available for free a couple of months ago, I don't think too many folks will rush headlong into this subscription model.
Certainly, not in the lesser affluent parts of the world.
Heck, I still use a portable version of PS8, and it does everything I need. Subscription? No thanks.

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NavarWynn

In the first year, they've already hiked the price per month from $30/mo to $50/mo. What about next year? $80/mo, $100/mo? I can't agree with this strategy. Since it appears that the point is to wean everybody off purely off 'owned' licenses, then, once done, they can jack the price to whatever the hell they want, and itemize the charges to 'save us' money (so $20/mo for PS, 15/mo for inD, $15/mo for LR, etc.)

No, I don't think this is a good idea.... are they not making *enough* money?

Looks like I'll be sticking w/ LR4 and CS6 for a long while...

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Hawkzro

To be far and honest, you never really owned the rights to adobe software anyways. You were technically buying a "license" to legally use there product. When you think about it, this is technically a much better option for most people/designers out there. If you do some freelance design work on the side of a full time job, you could just pay for the month's that you have work and you would still be using there product legally. And to top it off, you would always be using the latest tech in your designs, instead of buying CS3 and living off of it for the next 10 years. I can definitely see the benefits of purchasing it as a whole, but that's why they still offer a full purchase of creative suite doy lol... Anyways, seems like a great idea to me :)

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tkane18

"If you do some freelance design work on the side of a full time job, you could just pay for the month's that you have work and you would still be using there product legally."

That's nice if you are an individual. Now try managing 50 - 100 users in a corporate environment.

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gothliciouz

the future for pc sofware is horrible, everything relies on internet.

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machew100

This is a crock of shit. How does it benefit them to REMOVE the consumer option for a one time buy? They're ostracizing a certain demographic/user base, why would they do that? JUST LEAVE BOTH.

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Nimrod

sorry i dont rent software. Ive been ok with pay subscriptions before but sure as hell aint no 50$ a month. No student discount? No nothing?

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bautrey

I like this approach. Instead of paying $500+ for about every major upgrade you pay $50 a month. I think for most users this saves them money and is an easy way to get adobe products into the hands of more people who couldn't afford the high initial price. It also sounds like that the products will be continuously updated on the cloud. For a software development point of view, you can push out new features as they are ready instead of having to wait for the whole patch of features to be ready.

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big_montana

But not everyone upgrades to the latest version when it is released. Which is why I think Adobe did this, as you now pay more for the cloud based version then you did for the locally installed version. It took them over a year to release another cloud version, which means you paid more for a cloud version then you would have for a disc based install. It is a money grab pure and simple, especially now that they increased the subscription price from where it was a year ago. What is to stop them from doubling it again?

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harz3000gt

Best way to let Adobe know you don't like this is to vote with your wallet. Plenty of competing products now days.

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Perrorist

You don't have to be connected all the time, as a copy of the program is on your local drive. However, if you're offline for an extended period (not sure, but it could be 28 days), you need to log in to validate your copy.

However, paying high monthly fees for products you use intermittently makes no sense to me. I have the boxed CS6 Master Collection and can see no reason why that shouldn't suffice for all my graphics needs for a long time to come.

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fung0

Agreed. A cloud 'rental' is like pre-purchasing all future updates, sight unseen. No thanks.

I've got a nice copy of CS4 that does me very well. The changes in CS5 were definitely not enough to justify the huge upgrade cost, and even CS6 would be marginal in this tight economy. CS is not cheap, and a lot of photographers and artists stretch one version over a lot of years.

My prediction: Adobe will soon 'pull a Microsoft' -- change file formats, or something equally fundamental, so that older versions of CS become incompatible with the subscription version. After that, innovation will grind to a standstill (as it has with Office).

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philipa25

You can be offline for 37 straight days with a monthly subscription, and 99 days if you buy the yearly

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vrmlbasic

If the software is on your local PC then how is it really "Cloud" based? That takes away all the advantages of the cloud; does it really use off-site processing power to complete tasks?

This sounds like Adobe has contrived a knockoff of Steam. A bad knockoff.

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Baer

Perrorist +1
I also will be keeping my present suite. The cloud has it's uses but forcing us to go on line for everything and to rent software, ah....... Nope!

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QuadraQ

I really hate this strategy.

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Business Direct

Usually when I read "runaway success" in a press release it's followed by obligatory eye rolling but at that price point I'll bite!

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AlExAkE

I cant believe Adobe is taking this path. Are they aware that majority of people don't have in 2013 a reliable interment connection AT ALL TIMES. I mean, yeah many of us do have INTERNET but its not 24/7 and to create something you need to be pluged-in. I don't think this will work, the whole idea is absurd. I can see myself in 2033 still using CS6. I am not buying into the whole "Server/Internet/cloud BS" Please be a joke, I grantee 90% of the customers will be affected in negative way and adobe will lose more than will gain. F-THAT!

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philipa25

In 2013 some people do know how to read and would know that you don't need a 24/7 connection, or anything even close to it.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

$600 a year....

Not a fan of subscription software. I don't want to pay anything for the times I'm not using it. I don't want to rely on an Internet connection for my productivity software to work. My cable goes out, and I can't write a letter, or edit a photo?

No, thanks.

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xXhallelujahXx

Do these programs let you save a local file? Because these programs can give you some pretty big save files in their offline version.

Data Caps are still widely popular on the internet here in Canada.

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fung0

Yes, the cloud version does local saves. And no, it doesn't need always-on Internet. What we're talking about here is how the software is sold - download vs shrinkwrap - and how it's priced - monthly rental vs flat purchase (a.k.a. 'perpetual license').

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vrmlbasic

20 bucks a month for a single app?! 50 bucks a month for the whole ensemble? On top of the internet connection required to provide access?

That might be a bargain to some but it isn't to me.

How does the performance of the cloud software compare to that of the previous desktop versions? I would like to think that, armed with the vast array of computing power in the cloud, the cloud version would be vastly superior, that there'd be no contest, but after other cloud experiences (cough Google Drive cough) I have my doubts.

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fung0

Again, the software does not RUN in the cloud, it simply downloads once, then does an occasional validation check. What's at issue is the pricing model.

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tony2tonez

I'm pretty impressed with the service. I got single app (Photoshop) for my wife about 4 months ago.

For $20 a month I get full access and all updates from adobe. And if you look at the $50 its quite a lot of awesome apps to play with. I like their approach.

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fung0

I envy your affluence. But not the level of blind trust that would let Adobe stick a permanent siphon in your wallet.

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