Accidental Blog Post Says Windows 8 Release Preview Will Launch Today UPDATE: It's Here!

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gle789

my roomate's aunt makes $83/hr on the laptop. She has been without work for 8 months but last month her pay was $8682 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more on this site...NuttyRich.com

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zcpro

A Complete Nightmare!

Windows Metro UI is a complete nightmare!

This will be a disaster of unimaginable proportions. Remember windows Vista? Well, multiply that experience by 100. I almost ripped my hairs out trying to use this thing.

I provided technical support to end users working at a call center for over a decade. You could not pay me enough to walk someone through this piece of S%hit. You just CANNOT navigate through the system with a keyboard and mouse. Not everyone will be buying a tablet PC or touchscreen AIO where Win 8 excels in.

The average Joe just wants to click on a icon to browse websites, facebook, etc. SIMPLE AND EASY!

Customers will be screaming for refunds and/or demanding a downgrade to Win 7.

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dpic

I have installed every MS version except ME, and I have NO intention of installing this. Every article I read convinces me more.

I hope MaximumPC doesn't forget the Windows7 people and fluff Windows8 from here on out. I would be interested to know how many MaximumPC people install Windows8. I'm betting the majority of the enthusiast crowd stays away from this POS OS like the plague.

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myh1tlist101

Considering that maximumpc themselves didn't recommend an upgrade (or downgrade given the state of the OS) I highly doubt that very many would upgrade.

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Snowdragon

I have been using Windows ever sense Windows 1.0 - loved each version that came out ... Heck I was even a Beta Tester for Win 98 not W98SE.

I loaded Win8 with a smile from ear to ear waiting to be able to boast about this new OS at the hospital I work at.

after 30 min of using it - I could not wait to get this piece of crap off of my PC. Oh I boasted alright - that Microsoft was smoking some kind of bad weed, because if they really think that businesses are going to spend lots and lots of money to have the IT department teach people to use this crapware they have another thing coming.

I WOULD GO TO A MAC BEFORE I EVER GO TO Win8 !!!

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RedAnt751

Tried it for 3 week and hated this piece of crap.
I may buy a mac if they try to shove this s.h.i.t. on me.

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itzabo

I used Win 7 USB tool to make a bootable usb drive.
Shutdown, Hook my old WD Velociraptor up (Been replaced with a SSD),
Disconnect all other HD's.
15 Min's later installed and everything working.
Boots faster than 7, restores from sleep faster, overall system seems faster.
Q9550, 8 GB Ram, 6850 GPU, Hp Scanner Printer, Brother Network Color laser, HP network Printer.
Metro is different but it does work well even without touch.
I Installed K-lite all my movies and such play great.
Haven't tried my work apps yet (Civil 3d 2012 and other surveying software)
Call me crazy but I'll have it the day it's released. I have to be on top of things (I have a IT consulting business also) and I love learning new things, not "It's not like the old one so I won't use it"

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loozer

Fortunately, we all know how to immediately uninstall all of the "metro apps", then rig the desktop to come up automatically. takes about 2 minutes.

I'm getting windows 8(as long as it still has aero glass), but I'm not taking one step into the walled garden.

Edit:
I made a video showing how to set up windows 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJnutLKIzzU

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damicatz

You might want to actually look up what a "Luddite" is. Luddites were textilers who were opposed to mechanical looms because it put them out of work.

I am opposed to Windows 8 because I do not think it is progress, not because it puts me out of work. Change is not always good.

The most dangerous thing about Windows 8 is not it's fisher-price user interface but it's assault on your freedoms :

1.With the move to a walled garden, Microsoft has sole control over what you may or may not install on your own computer. Right now, the desktop still exists but Microsoft has indicated that they consider the desktop legacy. I have no doubt that there ultimate plan is to remove it someday and then you will have no choice to use Metro with its walled garden.

The implications are disturbing :
a.Microsoft will be able to dictate the content of software. They will actively engage in censorship on behalf of governments and the moral taliban.

Apple has already done this :
1.They blocked applications related to the Dalai Lama in China (http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipad-iphone/news/?newsid=28173)
2.They censored a dictionary because it contained "bad words" (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/apples-new-low-censoring-a-dictionary/)
3.They censored a comic that contained a same-sex couple kissing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/15/apple-censors-gay-kiss-in_n_611553.html) and only reversed their decision after massive public outcry.
4.They censor tethering applications (http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/31/tether-your-iphone-wirelessly-maybe/). Nevermind that it's your data and that you paid for it.
5.They assist cops in conducting violations of personal privacy (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-06-09-apple-DUI-checkpoints-app_n.htm).
6.They censored an application that promoted curing homosexuality through biblical teachings (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/23/apple-exodus-international-app_n_839448.html). As objectionable as the views may be, it is dangerous to have a platform where your content can be censored just because some people find it objectionable.
7.They censored Wikileaks (http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-12-21/tech/30098485_1_apple-s-app-store-wikileaks-documents-perfect-apples).

Need I go on? If you think that Microsoft will be any different, you are mistaken. To allow a corporation this much power to control what content you can and cannot consume is a dire mistake. Even if Microsoft has the noblest of intentions, the fact that they have the ability to control what applications you and or cannot install and what applications you can or cannot distribute makes that ability ripe for abuse at the hands of governments.

b.Microsoft has the ability to remove applications from your own computer without your consent. If I broke into Microsoft's network and started deleting programs without their consent, I'd be charged under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

We've already seen the dangers of this kind of "feature" with the Kindle as Amazon started deleting people's purchased eBooks. And recently, EA demonstrated that they have the ability to remotely kill apps on the iPhone (i.e Rockband), forcing you to buy more apps. Microsoft can claim this is about security all they want but what this really is about is control.

2.Windows 8 restricts what operating systems you can install on your computer with the deceptively named "Secure Boot". "Secure Boot" "fixes" a non-existent problem; boot sector viruses (and viruses in general as opposed to trojans and worms) have been out of fashion for years. It is already very difficult for a trojan or worm to modify the core operating system because of SFP.

With "Secure Boot", your computer will only boot preapproved operating systems with keys stored in the motherboard's flash memory. The ability to turn this off is completely optional on the part of computer vendors and you are completely at their mercy as to whether you will be able to disable secure boot.

It also increases the entry barrier for non-Microsoft operating systems as the average user will not be knowledgeable enough to go mucking around in the UEFI setup to disable this feature.

It's already started; Fedora has had to pay Microsoft for the "privilege" of being able to have an approved operating system. Microsoft is being put in the position of gatekeeper as to which operating systems are "approved" for secure boot. (http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/05/31/190217/red-hat-will-pay-microsoft-to-get-past-uefi-restrictions)

3.Code signing with certificates is a racket designed to extort money out of software programmers. "Certificates" in general are an outrageous rip off; $300 to compute some prime numbers. Anything more than $5 is a ripoff. PGP is demonstrably more secure because it does not have a single point of failure. Microsoft has a large investment in Verisign/Norton and ever since they invested that money, they have been trying to force people to buy certificates for everything.

I will NEVER "upgrade" to Windows 8. I would sooner switch to a Mac (and I despise Apple as a company).

Enthusiasts and people that actually use their computers for "work" (Some people do more than play Angry Birds on their computers; shocking, I know) will flee Windows 8 in droves. My (non-technical) boss was so appalled by Windows 8 that he actually has me looking into Linux (he brought up Linux himself without me even suggesting it).

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Zoandar

Nicely said! And thank you. Up until now I was just planning to avoid Win8 because it offered nothing I want or need. Now I know it in fact is ripe with everything I do NOT want! I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing a lot of Win7, and even WinXP, installations for many years to come.

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JohnP

29 comments and not one about how the "Release Preview" runs. What a bunch of Luddites.

Got it from Technet, installed it on a SSD drive, and have it fully running with all of my programs, er, apps. Very similar to the consumer preview and have not noticed much change under the hood. My HP Photosmart Printer was automatically installed as was all of my other peripherals, nicely done.
The install is a little disconcerting as once I booted into the Win8 install disk, the only thing on the screen was WINDOWS and the light blinking on the DVD drive. A LONG while later, the screen came up with the usual options (English, US keyboard etc). Make sure to have your serial number handy as you need it immediately. Install took the same length of time as other Win8 installs.
I did not try to see if the Win7 USB tool would work on the Win8 .iso.
Metro screen is more polished and the apps are getting better designed. Love it or hate it, there is some stuff worth looking at on the Metro screen now.
Boot time is still superior over Win7 as is multitasking. I have had better luck getting some really cranky programs to FINALLY run on Win8, again well done Microsoft on compatibility.
The charms bar looks the same on the desktop. The start bar is better
with your most recently used apps showing up on the bar. Still too touchy to get the Start and charm bar to deploy consistently from the desktop.
I have not tried getting into the "guts" to see what changing the registry will accomplish (turn off Metro perhaps?)
From just the desktop perspective, the faster boot, lower memory footprint, and the better multitasking makes Win8 a better operating system than Win7. Using Directory Opus 10 and True Launch Bar makes it so that I have absolutely no use for a Start button (and have not used it for years anyways) so no loss there. I have a menu folder in TLB that has a bunch of my most used Win8 shortcuts so no use for the run cmd or pinned stuff (like regedit or check for updates).
I heard tell that Aero was going away but it is still on the desktop. Media Player is still included.

Final thoughts? Release Preview is a more polished version of Consumer Preview with better compatibility and better peripheral support. Apps have improved on the Metro screen quite a bit (I actually USE some of them now, like weather!) RP will probably not change peoples minds about Win8 but a good effort on Microsoft's part.

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Scatter

Would someone please tell me how I'm supposed to access the Control Panel? I'm sure that there has to be a simple way to do so, it just must be too simple for me to understand. I've found that if I CTRL-ALT-DEL and launch the task manager I can click on File, run and type in Control Panel to bring it up but I'm sure that there's an easier way. But again, it must be so easy and obvious that I can't find it.

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Budman_NC

JohnP, tough crowd here. Might be best just to let Paul Thurrott handle the reviews and save yourself some grief. Appreciate the effort though. Will be interesting to see how all this plays out going into the new school year and the holiday shopping season.

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Valor958

Honestly, why the heck would I want to switch to Win8 when Win7 works so well and suits all of my needs without these new pointless limitations being imposed. This could have been an easy situation by making the Metro UI a modular system add-on for mobile devices/tablets, etc that would be installed on those Windows Mobile devices. Making an entirely new revision of the OS is nothing more than a money grabbing scheme, instead of just updating Win7 and adding MORE funcionality to that. I see no real added benefit for the majority of Win8 users, that Win7 cannot offer already.
Now, that being said, if I got a Win8 tablet (i'd prefer Android personally) or a portable PC (any flavor) with touch capability... Win8 isn't that bad. The metro UI is new so it takes a little adjusting, but no different than getting a smartphone or tablet for the first time. You learn... you're done. Then comes the fiddling and tweaking, which Win8 seems to be limiting quite a bit anyways.
I have no plans to get Win8 on any device I currently have or plan to have. From my circle of contacts, every one of them share these sentiments. Waste. Of. Money.

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Rift2

Must gain on Jobs I-pad MUST TELL WOLRD about L33T WIN 8!!! ERROR ERROR RED ALERT!

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livebriand

There is no way in hell that I'm buying that POS (with the metro UI anyway).

Note to self: Replace those old XP Pentium 4 machines NOW while I can still get Windows 7...

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Jacob Stanbery

I just got an email from Windows telling me it is now up. About to download!

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jmelloni

I am running the Consumer Preview version on a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, Socket 478, with 2 GB of RAM. But the new edition says that my CPU does not meet the minimum requirements. When I check the minimum requirements it says 1 GHz required. Already a fatal flaw.

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bobla90042

I've read that win 8 is optimized for WE and that other popular browsers, like Firefox and Opera, will not be able to take advantage of all of win8s capabilities. If true, haven't we fought about his in court before? I'm staying with Firefox and Opera, so no win8 for me.

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Whpony96

I have a test box with 2GB of ram and when I try to install it it says a minimum requirement of 4GB is required to continue the install.....But according to the website you only need 1GB.

It's just like all the other version of windows. Seams like every other version rocks (And every other version between it SUCKS!). So I will hold out till Win 9 arrives.....

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Scatter

The sad thing isn't that Windows 8 appears to be so disappointing to me. It's that Microsoft will likely stop selling windows 7 once 8 is released. Buy up your copies now while you can everybody.

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eastbayrae

You know nothing of MS then. Look how long they sold previous versions of Windows? They just recently phased out support for XP and it's a decade old.

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Scatter

I worked in one of the larger electronics retailers for about 10 years. As soon as Windows 7 was released all copies of Windows Vista were recalled from our stores. Sure you can probably find a copy somewhere on line but the normal consumer simply walking into a local store won't have a choice.

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thetechchild

Piracy. If Microsoft is stupid enough to deny themselves a huge opportunity to make money, then you can't really say that pirating a copy of Win7 after they stop selling it counts as "losses" at Microsoft's expense.

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Mikey109105

Good thing I have my copy of Windows 7 handy should I ever need to reformat. As for Windows 8, I wouldn't touch it with a five foot pole. M$ can shove the turd that is Windows 8 right back up from where it came. Now if only M$ would bother to listen to their user base, but no, Balmer knows best, lets screw the user base over again since it worked out SO WELL the first time. Oh well, I suppose its their loss if Windows 8 flops, and I hope it does. No start button, no Aero, Windows 98 style windows, and of course the fact that to get Windows Media Center you have to fork over even more cash. And don't get me started on that Metro crap. Yeah, I think Windows 8 is screwed, and therefore means M$ STILL hasn't learned their lesson from Vista. Sad, but true.

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Chronologist

Wait we have to PAY for WMC? I thought it was only removed in the N-versions for legal purposes. I'm pretty sure you can still dl + install wmc for free from windows downloads website, like it's always been.

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Mikey109105

Dude, it was in one of the previous MPC articles that WMC would no longer be free and we would have to dish out even more cash after dishing out cash for Window 8 (I won't be getting Windows 8 so it doesn't really concern me, lol). I forget which article, otherwise I'd give you the link to it. Just look it up, trust me it's out there. By the way, that marginal cost promise is a load of bullshit. We all know they'll charge everyone through the roof for it.

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Neufeldt2002

Yes you do have to pay.

"Media Center will be made available for purchase through the Add Features to Windows 8 control panel, the replacement for Windows Anytime Upgrade. Windows 8 Pro owners will purchase the Windows 8 Media Center Pack and Windows 8 owners will purchase the Windows 8 Pro Pack which will upgrade Windows 8 to Windows 8 Pro with WMC. It's only a kinda sorta clarification as there is still no details on pricing, though Microsoft continues to promise that it will be a marginal cost."

http://www.missingremote.com/news/2012-05-04/microsoft-provides-more-details-windows-media-center-windows-8

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Chronologist

Well its iTunes for me then, if I ever even decided to "upgrade" up to Windows 8. Thanks Mikey for the heads up.

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acidic

no need to buy copies of win7. just use HAL 7600. you'll have unlimited installs on unlimited machines. people say it doesn't work with SP1 but it has for me since release

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Bubba Hotepp

Say "blah blah blah" all you want but in about 6 months we'll see who's right and wrong about Windows 8's success or failure and who's either a savior or out of a job at MS (Balmer). My money is on failure/out of a job.

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grexxman

It's here!!!

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

Time for some testing.

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loozer

It still has aero, so I'm in. Seriously considering bailing out of the next one though...

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Neufeldt2002

Aero will be gone in the RTM version.

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loozer

As I said. I'm in for RP, but no aero=no buy.

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Neufeldt2002

This will be the first RC that I miss. I held out hope on Vista, but was disappointed. It is very clear when MS says they are not listening, they really aren't. Such a shame too because they listened so well with 7.

Edit: According to the article that Acidic posted the link to, it appears that MS is ripping out the code that allows third parties to reinstate the start button. Sad really, MS is so intent on getting the tablet crowd, they are ignoring their user base.

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myh1tlist101

Well at my high school science symposium we were having demonstrations by a host company's and there were Microsoft representatives demonstrating windows 8 on tablets. They advertised about how the user interface was great and whatnot but when I asked about new features for desktop users they seemed to shy away from the topic.

Anywho I asked if they were removing the start button for good and from what the representatives told me desktop users would still have their traditional windows experience.

Windows 8 isn't as bad as y'all make it out to be. I actually like that they are integrating the tablet pc and conventional pc environment so tablets aren't going to have as many shortcomngs. I am just as disappointed as the next guy about not getting a new true OS but Windows 7 works just fine for me.

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fung0

You sum it up perfectly. Microsoft is crippling its core product and forcing several hundred million computer users to re-learn the habits of decades, for absolutely no benefit. Just so it can make a grab for a tablet business that's tiny by comparison, and not really profitable for anyone but Apple.

"Sad" is right...

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acidic

http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+8+Release+Preview+Approaches+Compared+to+Windows+ME/article24826.htm

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abowlofsoda

its not made for desktops blah blah... i hope it fails miserably blah blah and blah

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