5 Reasons You Shouldn’t Upgrade to the iPhone 3G S

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nightwishlj

have fun with software http://www.itoolsoft.com/blog/

i will keep waiting and see what's the next ....

 

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nsk chaos

luv this article and all its comments on it =)

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cretony38

Ha Ha. all this nitpicking and grousing over Apple. Just shows that you wish you loved your phone as much as we love our iPhones. Whats that? You dont love your phone? maybe thats your problem... 

 Plus if it sucks so much whay are all the copies coming out? WinPhone? Pre G Curve Bold LG

 "Keep fingers away from moving parts"

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Biceps

On basic principle: any company that thinks it is a good idea to take something fantastic, like a USB connector, then transform it into an easily breakable, proprietary piece of crap so they can charge an extra $30 (the i-pod connector) should grow a heart.  I had to replace a power connector for my mac-book (gift) and it cost me $70.  Had to do the same for my old Toshiba and it cost me $12.... that burns.

Apple has got some nifty stuff, I admit, but they are the worst in respect to the above.  I will not buy Apple products because of that, even though every other member of my family is a Macophile.  PCs RULE!

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gbear

Of course the new iPhone is better than the iPhone 3G, but the thing is for most people with an iPhone 3G, it's not really worth the upgrade. Let's talk about the speed. The "S" in the iPhone 3GS stands for speed. Obviously it's faster than the iPhone 3G when it comes to start ups and shutting down, but when you actually use it, it's not that much faster (trust me; I have an iPhone 3G and I compared both devices at the Apple Store). When it comes to graphics, it's also not that much greater. It's still better though. The camera in the new iPhone is only 1 megapixel higher and it also doesn't make much of a difference and it still doesn't give you tools like flash and things like that. Only autofocus, which was pretty useful (I guess). It also comes with video recording, which was probably one of the only things that was worth buying the new 3GS. Video quality wasn't the best, but the 30 FPS recording made it somewhat worth it. Battery life was also better in the 3GS and it's also one of the only good things about 3GS. Besides the couple of functions noted above (maybe I left out one or two things, but they probably weren't too useful), all the other new things can be brought to the 3G by only updating the firmware. As MPC said, most of the things that are new can be obtained through firmware updates. Also, the oleophobic screen isn't that helpful either. It does help reduce fingerprints, but not every single one of them. So basically, the 3GS would be good for people with the first gen iPhone or some people looking forward to own an iPhone. The worst part is that call quality and 3G signals still have not improved, which I find pretty sad from Apple. I'm not trying to say 3GS sucks; it's just that I don't think people want to spend so much money for a new iPhone that really hasn't improved much from the last generation. You can say all you want, but this is just the way I think of it. The interesting thing that keeps coming to my mind though is that maybe Apple didn't spend that much effort on improving on the iPhone 3GS; maybe they just tweaked it and sold it so they would have more time to develop on the new iPhone that is probably coming out next year. I hope they fix the call quality and the 3g signals because that's the main thing that's been bothering me and they should also fix the camera and video recording. I don't want to download a bunch of apps just to tweak a picture I took. And they should keep improving the battery life and speed and also the graphics. They should also change the design. Sounds like a bit too much, but I think Apple will eventually create the perfect iPhone. Oh, and Apple should switch to Verizon because AT&T sucks balls and is basically holding the iPhone's capabilities back.

 

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vfxcorp

1. 3GS has a 600 MHz CPU vs. the 3G's 412 MHz CPU.
2. 3GS processor has been optimized from 90nm to 65nm.
3. 3GS has double the quantity of L1 cache: 32KB up from 16KB.
4. 3GS has 256MB RAM vs. the 3G's 128MB RAM.
5. 3GS has OpenGL ES 2.0 vs. the 3G's OpenGL 1.1.
6. 3GS pipeline depth has been boosted to 13-stage from 8-stage.
7. 3GS has a PowerVR SGX graphics core which is far superior to the MBX in 3G.
8. 3GS has an average data speed of 1568Kbps vs. 3G's 1165Kbps data speed.
9. 3GS has a 19 sec. system bootup vs. the 3G's 48 sec. system bootup.
10. 3GS has a fingerprint resistant oleophobic coating.
11. 3GS has a warmer display tint for easier reading.
12. 3GS applications and games load and run 14% to 72% faster.
13. 3GS now supports up to DirectX 10.1.
14. An average web page load is 5-6 seconds faster than the 3G (yes, with same OS 3).
15. SunSpider Javascript speed benchmarks shows the 3GS at 16.7 ms vs. the 3G at 41.4 ms.
16. The 3GS performs page renders 21% faster than Palm Pre, and 122% faster than the 3G - bench by Anandtech.
17. 3GS shutdown time is shorter.
18. iPhone OS 3.0 is more optimized for the 3GS over the 3G.
19. 3GS now has video ability and a better camera. If you want pro pics, then go buy a Nikon D300 at 1600 bucks (and that doesn't include the lens). No one is expecting to take studio level pics with a phone.
20. The 3GS overall performance increase is has been clearly tested by Anandtech, ArsTechnica, and CNET. And isn't MPC all about Maximum Performance? If you want better performance, then the 3GS is worth the upgrade and don't cry and whine about pricing plans and blame the 3GS hardware device for it. Cry to and blame the greedy carrier and the strangle-hold contract they had you sign. I love Maximum PC, but sometimes MPC gets it wrong. That's why it also took them a full year to figure out the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme was the best performing air cooler over the goofy Zalman. Wake up MPC! You are too slow. Smell what performance is cooking!

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dracx619

heres where this is lame...any new version of a phone will have improvements over its predecessor so listing them as reasons to get one is kind of pointless because that is expected. its all about NEW features and the iphone 3gs' "new" features is a load of crap since its all been available for a good while. the only thing that annoys me is how they market all these features as spanking new and make it seem like no one else can offer anything better.

 whatever, maybe its just cause i hate apple, but i wont buy an iphone no matter what "new" features it has. in the phone market, i know its pretty standard to pay around $200 for a smart or feature rich phone, so it isn't about price with me, its just more or less apple can suck my toe   :) 

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vfxcorp

The real point was that Maximum PC was bias-highlighting most of their personal gripes about the Service provider and not pointing out any of the 20 or so positive hardware reasons to justify an upgrade for those interested in the unbiased facts. It was like only getting a fraction of the story. Your point about features is a really user-relative, as the phone with the most "features" is not necessarily the best phone or the fastest. I see a lot of bloatware on newer phones. The iPhone 3GS renders web sites 21 percent faster than the "golden child" Palm Pre, and the poor Android G1 is twice as slow. I guess the Palm Pre and G1 designers forgot about an important "feature" called SPEED! I'm all about speed and performance, which is the sole reason I have been reading MPC for years.

Despite anyone's personal opinions of Apple iPhone, it is without a doubt dominating in the mobile Web arena and gaining even more speed with the new 3GS deployment. Read the numbers. According to recent AdMob Mobile Metrics, the iPhone now accounts for 43 percent of all mobile Web traffic and 65 percent of mobile Net traffic, while Android, Palm, and others are struggling at a 2 percent or less level. Even the previous Symbian OS has been KO'd by the iPhone. Apparently the vast majority of the mobile phone population enjoys and is buying into the iPhone. This is simply an undeniable observation of numerical fact.

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dracx619

well one thing to consider is that the 1st iphone wasnt exactly a "speed" king when it came out. it took 2 subsequent generations to achieve its "s" monicker. the palm pre and android are barely in their 1st gen so you gotta cut em some slack there.

 i know more features doesn't equal better device but apple always finds ways to markets stuff thats been out for a while as new and fresh, thats one of my gripes with them. 

as far as numbers go, its because people are sheep and will always go for the status symbol. sure the iphone has some nifty features but none are really a "must have." just like the ipods, are they the best mp3 players? many argue 'no' but the sheep go off and by them in droves cause its a sleek, shiny, status symbol. see, a lot of businesses use blackberrys cause as a device, it does everything for their business in ways no other phone can. i work in a station where some peeps have iphones that they had the option to use for work but they can't stand using it for work, so they opted to have  separate blackberry. there is a real good reason behind bberry numbers. i cant say the same for the iphone.

as far as mpc's reporting, sure they could have reported it more objectively but i personally like a little opinion every now and then. it gives the mag a bit of personality and sort of inspires people to square off into discussions and arguments  and it makes it interesting. also, from what ive seen over the years, no matter how "objective" a writer can seem, theres always a group of people with their own set of biases that believe the writer is pitching for the other side. just check out a lot of articles about microsoft or apple products. flamers from both sides always think the writer is biased when really, a lot of times its us.

in this case, these 5 "reasons" may be enough to sway someone, even with 20 other reasons that say the opposite, at that point it can become personal preference. like for me, i have no desire to have an iphone no matter how fast and flashy it is.

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vahgeta

Wow, people I can see that most of you don’t know how good people have on the other side of the fence. AT&T and other carrier customers are missing out I think. From what you all write you get no kick down for new phones, too bad because I and every Verizon Wireless customer has the opportunity to do so. Yes, I got my Storm right when it came out in Nov and yes maybe I don’t have a cool open source APP Store where I can throw my money away on a stupid fart app or virtual dog whistle at least I know that my Storm can send MMS from the begging, I know that I don’t have to send it in to get it fixed or open it up to get a new battery. I don’t need a patch to tell me that I can almost text pictures and videos. Also given the right program ($59 or higher) I can get a new phone every year at the 2yr contract discounted price. None of that full retail BS, like most of you cry about. So come this Nov when my 1 yr is up, I’ll be looking for a new phone at a discount, under $300 dollar price for a new phone, and maybe a new Storm 2 just because it’s a bad ass phone manufacture to go to. I can also wait the 22 months and get an additional $50 or $100 off my next phone (depending on the price plan you are on), wow now that’s love for the customer. Oh wait, you don’t pay $59+? for your plan. Easy if you don’t have insurance, they got a lost or stolen program where you can get a phone at the 1yr price, just because they value your customer loyalty and business.  Apple is great don't get me wrong but have you all have to realized that apple is selling you a phone that’s features where top of the line and great in 1998. You are all paying for a phone that is showing you features that were released as the newest thing in 1998. Suckers! I got 8 yr old kids that have phones that cost much, much, much less then the I-Phone and do a whole lot more. Get a clue people, you might be an apple lover, but the I-Phone is a piece.

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sreesesr

U.S. Army Sergeant

Acually, Verizon does give you breaks when you renew your contract and upgrade your phone.  I have been doing it for 10 years.  New every 2 program is great and it works out perfectly.  After every deployment, I get a new phone:)

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vfxcorp

1. 3GS has a 600 MHz CPU vs. the 3G's 400 MHz CPU.
2. 3GS has 256MB RAM vs. the 3G's 128MB RAM.
3. 3GS has OpenGL ES 2.0 vs. the 3G's OpenGL 1.1.
4. 3GS has an average data speed 1568Kbps vs. 3G 1165Kbps data speed.
5. 3GS has a 19 sec. system bootup vs. the 3G's 48 sec. system bootup.
6. 3GS has twice the web page load vs. 3G slow load.
7. 3GS has a fingerprint resistant oleophobic coating.
8. 3GS has a warmer display tint for easier reading.
9. 3GS applications load and run faster.
10. The 3GS overall performance increase is been clearly evident and tested. I love Maximum PC, but sometimes MPC gets it wrong. That's why it also took them a full year to figure out the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme was the best performing air cooler of the dumb Zalman! Wake up MPC and smell what performance is cooking.

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jcollins

1-10) Not worth $599-$699 for the 32GB iPhone if you have a 3G. 

1-10) Marginally worthwhile at $299 for the 32GB phone if you have an iPhone 3G

1-10) Worthwhile at $299 if you are in the market for an iPhone and have no iPhone or a first Gen iPhone.

 

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MrBW

the writer must be half mongloid, or at the very least related to Guv Palin, do a simple check on ebay to see what the "no resell value whatsover" is on ANY iphone, even broken ones.  Do your research, douchebag!!!

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gatorXXX

Must be another Obuma luvr. Apple sucks, Iphone sucks, Ipod sucks, and you suck with them buttmunch!

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mesiah

Wow, someone has their panties in a bunch >.>

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NeoTifa

<3

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mikeart03a

Geez guys, settle down already. We're all aware of Apple's fondness of charging more for products that are behind the curve (iPhone in this case). Don't forget that this is corporate North America (we Canucks aren't any better) and companies will try and get away with anything to pad their pockets. The only way we're going to stop this is to start doing something about it. Look at our European cousins, they have some of the cheapest plans around next to Asia. I know that Canada is ranked amongst the top 5 countries for most expensive cell phone rate plans in the world.

A friend of mine in Japan has a plan from Docomo (I think) that costs him about $35 US and it's pretty much unlimited everything, save for long distance. So it's not really all the Telco's fault, it's also ours for just accepting what the companies offer without actually making a fuss until we're hit with the bill and locked in for the next few years... I wouldn't be surprised to see 5 year terms...

- mike_art03a
IT Technician
Gov't of Canada

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DBsantos77

http://www.maximummac.com/

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gatorXXX

I know MPC has a thing for the Iphone, but in last months issue, they tell you how to build a HACKINTOSH. That's right! A HACKINTOSH! A dual boot vista/osx machine. MPC, you seem to be leaning the way of the crapple.....er....apple here of late! If you want to post articles about the Iphone, that's fine because alot of PC users have Iphones because they are married to AT&T and it practically is the best phone they offer. I for one am a PC user like 98% of the people here. If your going to print anything apple, save it for your sister mag MACworld unless your going to bash em. Frankly, I could care careless about crapple and any of thier products.

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vk

Please find me ANY smart phone with half the iPhone's capabilities that you can get for less than $499 before your 2 year contract finishes. Because I didn't know there were any. I will wait out my two year contract with the person who commented below me and with the rest of the mentally stable people who signed their contracts and aren't surprised that At&t is making us commit to it!

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crazdogg

i'll wait and see once it is release. I read somewhere the 's' was for better graphics

 

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gatorXXX

The "S" stands for.......SUCK-phics......

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jcollins

No, the S is for what AT&T does to you if you have the 3G on contract...

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lester67

I'm sorry, but I didn't rush to AT&Ts website to see if I was eligible for a new iPhone upgrade... why did anyone else that bought a 3G?  This is no different than Verizon's "New Every Two" plan, or whatever the other carriers call it.  I bought a 3G last year, FULLY AWARE that it would be two years before I was eligible to upgrade.

Are y'all really saying you didn't know this?  Seriously, what rock would you need to be sleeping under to be surprised by this policy?  IT'S AN INDUSTRY STANDARD.

Besides, the "S" additions are pretty weak.  Don't you think waiting the additional year (AS STATED IN YOUR CONTRACT) will have a better payoff?

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Curtai

Yeah I'm loving my new Samsung Omnia I got from Verizon with my contract upgrade... I flashed a leaked ROM to it and I have GPS enabled for free... Its very customizable... and It comes with 8GB internal Storage and can take up to a 16GB MicroSD card... 5MP camera w/ flash able to watch movies and stuff off the internet too I am told and guess what It cost me about 100$ US... Top that Apple...

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Skilless

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 I'm an existing AT&T customer and I just checked the price for the iPhones with 2yr contract; 

iPhone 3G - 8GB  = $99.00

iPhone 3G - 16GB = 149.00

iPhone 3G S - 16GB = 199.00

iPhones 3G S - 32GB = 299.00

 I took a screenshot, so I have evidence of this information. My 2-yr contract with AT&T ended in March, so perhaps they are viewing me as a "new" customer, but I doubt it since they link me to "Upgrade" my phone. My Blackberry 8800 (brand new at the time) cost me an arm and a leg after my previous contract was up, so I don't think they see me as a new customer. The only thing I can think of is that my company is a "Premier" customer so I may be enjoying a company-based discount?

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jcollins

What year does your contract end?  Mine is showing March 2010 and I've got $499 for the 32GB version.

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Carbon

And then Bend you over!!
That is Apple's bussiness model.

I'm sticking Android.

With 19+ phones on the horizon it will soon take over..

 

 

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watthefishy

I've always heard of Apple as being the most inventive company.  They have finally caught up with the rest of the mobile phones.  The ability to voice dial, a 3 MP camera, and video recording came out a long time ago.  Apple likes to find ways to make something pretty with half the features of a half priced phone and call it genius or inventive.  Then they charge you for phone updates that slowly get you up to the rest of the cellulary world.  For 600 dollars I could by a fully functional laptop and buy magicJack and get multitudes more than the iPhone.  All that Apple does is find new ways to package old things.  All your paying for is the small apple logo.  You wont see me or my family with anything that has a apple logo in my house.  Save your money buy something better.

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gatorXXX

AMEN brother!!!!!

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keithfreitag

I have a 1G iPhone and guess what I gotta pay?  $699 for the 32gb version and $599 for the 16gb version.  That's with a 2yr renewal as well and I already pay $20 for unlimited data and 200 SMS, why the fuck do I need to pay $30 for unlimited and an additional $5 for 200 SMS.

 AT&T knew about MMS when the planned OS3 software was announced, yet they are still delaying the launch until late summer.  Hope they don't expect someone to pay extra for something not out yet.  I might buy the cheaper 3g iphone, but I'm guessing I could switch carriers and maybe get the PalmPre.

 Apple has got alot of people by the Grapefruits.

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awesomator

Well actually the original iphone was 2g. and unless you got your original iphone right before the 3g came out your contract would or already expired so even though you would need to get a new one its would be retail price for the new phone. They reason they have delayed mms even they have been active in develepers 3.0 betas is becasue tehy messed up the system with them and are busy fixing it.

 

really its at&t that is &@%#ing everyone over

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amdmaxx

6) no 802.11N

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DravenX

Who cares about the Iphone?  Blackberry is the best smartphone around.

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Ravenhurst

This is MaximumPC... not maximumMAC. :)

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oihorse

Hack out the disingenuous tone and entitlement complex and you almost have an article here.

Come on MPC, I know you can publish more informative stories than this.

C-, you can do better.

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Havok

 Maximum PC covers certain gadgets and tech toys also. This is considered noting more than a VERY expensive toy. Curse you Apple!

 

 

OMGWTFBBQ

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nebulaz

 oihorse, you get a...

F-, with L4D2 coming out, people don't hack anymore they now use frying pans. 

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jcollins

In re. the iPhone in Korea.  To be honest, you can pretty much take any phone from the US and have the same situation, it's not unique to the iPhone.

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drmnez

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HEADLINE NEWS: "Apple tools get mad whenever someone bad mouths Apple
product"

Actually that is not new. steve jobs is absolutely ridiculous. How can he
(in what appears to be good conscience) helllllla old ass tech and try to pass
it as amazing just cuz the product has an apple on it. His since of self
satisfaction probably knocked out that chunk missing in the logo. Video is not
new, 3mp camera is not new, paying more for apple products that do the same as
other products is not new. WTF??? The new iMac gonna have memory card slots,
High def screens, blu-ray? geez... A COMPASS?!?!?!

I just can't believe people are willing to pay those prices.

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Havok

 I'm sorry, I'm no expert at HTML, but was that HTML language supposed to be there? Or did you just mess up accidentaly? Because, you CAN edit stuff after its posted.

 

 

OMGWTFBBQ

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Sina

only MID Phones.

for me, future is MID Phones. (AKA UMPC Phones)

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k11k

I bought a 3G Iphone and thought I was "COOL". Then I went over to visit friends in Korea, they laugh at my puny Iphone functions. It didn't have a 8MP camera, high resolution video, extend memory slot and I wasn't able to pay my soda with it. I learn fast, to hide it when ask about my phone. I just said I don't own a phone. 

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DJSPIN80

I would gladly get the phone, but the price is ridiculous!  For a phone whose only "upgrade" is video and a newer processor is not worth the money AT&T's willing to charge.  I also can't believe that while MMS is available, AT&T won't support it until later on?  What.the.hey.  If they charge for MMS, I'm gonna seriously switch to Verizon once my contract is over.  AT&T freakin' sucks donkey balls.

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c8503

HEADLINE NEWS: "MPC COMPLAINS ABOUT SOMETHING APPLE DOES" color this reader suprised. 

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diamond_ops

Yeah thats why they're telling everyone how to make hackintoshes. Besides it adds some perspective to Apple's abundant self praise.

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nekollx

Oh God! Colorado barly survived the Prirus Smug Cload once it hit...i fear the effects of the Apple Smug Cloud...

 

 

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ddimick

I'm really surprised by all the upgrade cost outrage. A two year refresh cycle for carrier-subsidised devices is standard. Why don't you try taking your one year old Blackberry Storm to Verizon when the Storm 2 comes out and see if they'll cut you a break on the upgrade cost? How about the resell cost of that previous generation Blackberry when the new one is out? Expecting something different just because the manufacturer in this case is Apple is naive.

This is really simple. Carriers have a two year refresh cycle. Apple has (so far) a one year refresh cycle. You will get a pricing break on the iPhone every other generation. Anyone surprised by this is just confused, at best.

About the device itself, the iPhone was absolutely revolutionary when it launched. Sure, there were touchscreen phones years before, but they were useless. Nothing like what Apple came up with. But time marches on and really the only thing the iPhone has going for it now is plentiful and easy 3rd-party application support. That's a huge advantage (Developers! Developers! Developers!) but subject to rapid erosion. For example, writing applications for the Pre is something even I can do. Using CSS/JavaScript is a genius move on Palm's part. It may be the only smart thing they've done this decade but they sure got it right. They want the developers because they want to erode Apple's advantage in the application space.

Apple needs to do better than this if they want to retain their market share. Hey, we all though the Motorola Razor was a revolutionary kick-ass phone at one time, too. Remember?

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