New Xbox 360 Disc Format isn't Blu-Ray

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BF100

First no one company owns the sole rights to blu ray. If they did they would have gone in front of the supreme court for having a monopoly. Now on to the next topic. This can still be a new format in many ways. The format in which the actual data is written may have been changed or they may have tweaked certain hardware settings with the update in oedwr to gain a performance boosts which allows a new unknown dis type to be used. None of this will truly be known until the disc are released to the public or the information is released.

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martinzombie

I thought Sony gave licences to companies to use Blu-ass. 

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Caboose

Monopoly

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1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices. Compare duopoly, oligopoly.
2. an exclusive privilege to carry on a business, traffic, or service, granted by a government.
3. the exclusive possession or control of something.
4. something that is the subject of such control, as a commodity or service.
5. a company or group that has such control.
6. the market condition that exists when there is only one seller.
7.( initial capital letter ) a board game in which a player attempts to gain a monopoly of real estate by advancing around the board and purchasing property, acquiring capital by collecting rent from other players whose pieces land on that property.

Blu-Ray technology is patinted, and licensed out to other companies. Just because you see an LG, Panasonic, LiteOn, Samsung, etc doesn't mean that they all own a part of Blu-Ray technology. Sony and/or LG owns the patint to Blu-Ray technology and it is licensed out to other companies so that they too can produce a Blu-Ray product. They then pay a royalty back to the patint holder.

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This "new" disc type is going to still be DVD. Unless the 360's drive magically reads discs other than CD's and DVD's, the current DVD format will still be used. The article indicates what is being done with these discs. Its not rocket science. Some simple reading goes a long way. Why don't you try it some time.

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BF100

A new unknown format does not necesarrily mean new hardware is needed. it would be possible to create new formats for new or even legacy technology and the only thing to make it work would be software updates. The components of a dvd drive pretty much oil down to a red laser used to read what is written on the disc and a motorized "mount" that spins the disc. Software can be altered to accomodate for changes in technology. Ask hackers of all sorts. I've seen where people have taken newer games and altered some dependencies or what not to have them play on older technology.

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Caboose

Can you cite any examples of how the hacking community has taken a standard DVD, CD or Blu-Ray drive and made their own format?

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BF100

ok at no point did i say they made their own formats. the point i was making is that changes in software can alter what some devices are capable of to a point. if microsoft had decided to try to create a new disc format they would only need to insure that it is readable by red laser...i.e. the device that reads the information off of the disc.

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Caboose

you're right. I just re-read your post. My apologies.

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BF100

Its fine.

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blindhorizon

If your reading this post donw waste your time following the link trying to sign up, the signups were closed after about 4 hours of it being avalible.  i tried at 8am this morning and it was closed.  

I'm pretty sure that people are just "Spawn camping" on that site hoping it will come back up for registration again.  plus most hard core guys have that site bookmarked checking it hourly hopeing for some other kind of free-bee from microsoft.

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B.A.Frayd

Why is this relevant to PCs?

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JeyNyce

Because like it or not a console is nothing but a very under power computer

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zefrem7

Why don't they just take a dead format like HD-DVD and use that exclusively for xbox games. Similar to what Gamecube did with their smaller disks (I don't remember what the format was called). Having a closed format would also reduce piracy.

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hammeredtoast

 

Because this would be a hardware upgrade to the 360, and that doesn't make sense at this point, considering every active 360 user would have to buy it, unlike Kinect, which is a niche object.

 

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Caboose

GameCube just used Mini DVD's. You could buy them anywhere. It was still a standard DVD drive, only smaller.

And you were able to get modded cases to support full-size DVD's or (the more dangerous method) cut a standard DVD down to mini-dvd size.

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BlazePC

LG doesn't "own" bluray.

The Association patent holders do; some hold more than others.

Go research that...

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aarcane

I'm still guessing they'll be adding an r/rw segment to perform console lockins.

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Caboose

How? There is no writer in the 360. And no, a software update won't magically enable it.

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hammeredtoast

Okay, so let me get this straight: It isn't a new format, it just means that DVD's will be printed differently, right? Am I reading this right? And it's going to, basically be, a software update? We good here? I'm following? It's early.

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zack822

dethdeks: Blu Ray is owned by LG not Sony, Hince the recent copyright suing. as for the new format, this wont stop nothing, it will just add more problems with the xbox. when is microsuck gonna relize that there just making more problems for themselves

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TechLarry

These companies are nothing but children.

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dethdeks

a reason xbox will never get blu-ray is because blu-ray rights are owned by sony. and i highly doubt sony is gonna let its main comptetor have access to it for there game console.

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hammeredtoast

And the royalties Microsoft would no doubt have to pay to Sony. I'm guessing, based on nothing.

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hammeredtoast

And the royalties Microsoft would no doubt have to pay to Sony.

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Jesterace

If it were to be blu-ray all the beta testers would need new hardware instead of just getting discs to test with the new dashboard. I wanted to test but alas being in Canada we are left out. 

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Caboose

Not to mention every single 360 owner on the planet.

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