Microsoft Giving OEMs a Look at Windows 8

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neal123

Excellent insight into a fascinating topic, thanks for sharing this with us all. Please continue to contribute further information, I look forward to the prospect.

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neal123

I have been reading all the replies here, i had a great deal of info, some significant most are not. But i shall say it very active page.

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LatiosXT

I like how a person was like "Reset function? Terrible idea! It could be exploited!" when you know, you could've had a virus that exploited the System Restore function (this Reset function sounds very much like a System Restore with a permanent restore point from the beginning). But either way, that would be useless, because doesn't that mean the virus goes away with? And I'm sure you need admin rights to do it (I hope Microsoft starts enforcing the notion of admin/standard accounts).

And you want a faster, leaner OS? Okay, let's strip out pretty much all the components and see what you get. Go try using vLite (or whatever works with Windows 7) and just exclude all functionality. And let's see how well Windows actually works.

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LatiosXT

I like how a person was like "Reset function? Terrible idea! It could be exploited!" when you know, you could've had a virus that exploited the System Restore function (this Reset function sounds very much like a System Restore with a permanent restore point from the beginning). But either way, that would be useless, because doesn't that mean the virus goes away with? And I'm sure you need admin rights to do it (I hope Microsoft starts enforcing the notion of admin/standard accounts).

And you want a faster, leaner OS? Okay, let's strip out pretty much all the components and see what you get. Go try using vLite (or whatever works with Windows 7) and just exclude all functionality. And let's see how well Windows actually works.

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Danthrax66

I'm reading this and see nothing but TERRIBLE IDEAS.

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I Jedi

A lot of people complain about Windows Office having too much functionality when it comes to different types of tools that people can choose from. While the majority of people will not use most of the tools offered, some will. The same applies here for Windows 8, and while things like 3D user-interface may not seem inticing to us, it is to eye-candy enthusiast. It also pushes for further research and development into the 3D realm when a big company, such as Micrsooft, actively supports its adoption.

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Danthrax66

"The most recent leaks also point to a new system reset function to help users undo serious damage to the system."

 

THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA! Can't wait until a virus launches this.

 

Also 3D is completely pointless I would rather have a Windows 7 that is half the size and runs a lot better. Low resource usage to help gaming and other programs. Also 3d isn't functionality it's clutter, it's a gimmick.

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chart2006

That's why Microsoft has multiple versions of its Windows platform.  If you want to skip on all the extra then just by the "Basic" version.  Problem solved. 

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I Jedi

Again, you may not find the features, such as the "undoing serious damage" solution for customers whose computers fuck up as helpful and even hazard because of exploitation; however, some poor bastard of a customer is just begging for more simplification and Microsoft is trying to offer it. Microsoft is not aiming to please necessarily the tech. enthusiast, but the general customer base, which is usually comprised of Facebook lurkers, email checkers, etc. If you haven't noticed, most operating systems today are aiming to make everything simple to use, even Linux's most used O.S., Ubuntu, is trying to be very consumer friendly. As goes for 3D, again, it's all about who wants it, and 3D may seem "laughable" right now, but so was the idea of ever needing more than 10 megabytes of storage space at one point, too. :)

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Danthrax66

I disagree something that is useless is still going to be useless even if someone uses it. I'd rather them not waste disk space or dev time on more features that are exploitable. Also you have to think about when someone accidentaly presses said reset button.

 

And besides that is where most companies go wrong when the fosuc on the flash instead of on the functionality and usefulness. Operating systems shouldn't be simple, because as a result you lose the control required to run them on an enterprise level for the customers that really matter businesses. Which is why a lot of enterprise level tasks have been lost to linux.

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I Jedi

Microsoft has been losing ground, especially in the server market, to Linux for a very long time now. I agree on the point that "flash" is not something useful to a company as productivity is, but you totally missed my reasoning. Microsoft is aiming at the individual consumer, such as email checkers, web surfers, etc, not so much business level people for the Windows O.S., even if some of their products, such as Microsoft Word, are aimed at students and businesses. Microsoft's supposed over-simplification with their U.I. in Windows 8 and "dumbed-down" operations of a functioning O.S. are just part of their strategy to get back in touch with the everyday joe.The everyday joe has never opened the inside of their computer, much less knows how to do simple things, such as setting up a router. Also, this over-simplification of the U.I., again, is not just limited to Microsoft, as Ubuntu devs. are also taking this approach to get in touch with the general consumer population. When you make things simple, straight-forward, you're more likely to attract more users. Did you ever watch those Windows 7 ads where they shoewd how to do simple things, such as creating multiple windows? That is an example of Microsoft reaching towards the general consumer and not the tech. enthusiast.

Finally, it is not that I am for the over-simplification and dumbed-down operation of the O.S. at large because I believe people should know how to do basic troubleshooting and fixing of their computer. Go to any car mechanic and they will tell you that they believe everyone should know how to do simple procedures for preventative maintenance on their cars; it's the same for tech. enthusiast such as you and I.

P.S. If you hate 3D now, prepare to hate it in 10 years from now when it becomes more instrusive in your everyday life. :P

 

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chart2006

Don't get me wrong I do agree is some aspects.  The biggest is how hard it was for me to transition from Office XP to Office 2007.  Microsoft "dumbed down" the suite to the point I had to learn everything all over and given that i tend to enjoy sticking to what works I hated that transition like I'm sure I'll hate the transition to Office 2010 if I ever get it. 

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dracx619

definitely agree with you....but also, we should reserve judgement untl we actually see a demo of these things and play with them for a while before we start sayings its terrible.

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