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HP Blackbird 002

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Label us Luddites for resisting Windows Vista, but there’s no arguing the point that the new OS currently offers very little you can’t get faster with Windows XP. That goes double for games, which is why we’re baffled by HP’s decision to run Vista Ultimate on the groundbreaking Blackbird 002 gaming rig it sent us.

We’re equally surprised that HP sent us a machine it knew would blue-screen when going into suspend mode (and then leave it to us to discover this). Those two decisions are unfortunate because nearly every other facet of the Blackbird is utterly brilliant. Here’s proof that HP’s acquisition of VoodooPC was much more than an opportunistic move (by a company that many gamers dismiss as stodgily conservative and more appropriate for middle-aged newbs) to glom on to the cachet of a high-profile boutique PC vendor.

Actually, we’d argue that HP shed its old-fogey image months ago when it shipped the superbly designed TouchSmart IQ770 (reviewed April ’07). Although that desktop system is also limited to Vista, the embedded 17-inch touch-screen LCD justifies the decision (and you wouldn’t play games on it anyway).

The Blackbird is a different story. Although HP tells us consumers will be able to order machines with either XP or Vista, we review rigs as they are sent to us. As for the blue-screen issue, HP says it’ll have it fixed before you read this review.
Those issues aside, HP and Voodoo deserve high praise for building an exciting and innovative personal computer while using industry-standard parts for every key component. One glance at the all-aluminum case reveals that it’s highly customized; nonetheless, it will accommodate any ATX motherboard and any standard power supply.

Swinging open the side access panel, which easily lifts off its smooth-as-silk hinges, reveals an Asus Striker Extreme motherboard. In a ballsy move, HP adjusted Nvidia’s nForce 680i SLI BIOS to allow a pair of ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT cards to run in CrossFire mode—tweaking the noses of AMD and Nvidia in the process.

Removing the Blackbird's access panel reveals beauty that's more than skin deep.

Each of the Radeons is outfitted with 1GB of DDR4 RAM and cooled by an Asetek LCLC liquid-cooling system. The LCLC also wicks heat away from the 3GHz Intel QX6850 (Core 2 Extreme quad core), which HP overclocked to 3.76GHz. You can order a Blackbird with an X-Fi soundcard and an Ageia PhysX card, but our unit had neither (relying on Analog Devices’s Integrated Digital SoundMax HD Audio for sound, installed on a riser card to escape electrical noise on the mobo).

The Topower Computer TOP-1100W DVT power supply is rated to deliver 1,100 watts (the 2900 XTs, you’ll recall, are insatiable power hogs). The PSU is mounted at the bottom of the case, which is elevated by a large aluminum foot to allow cool air to enter the case from the bottom as well as the sides. Cable management is simplified by modular power plugs, but there’s more to it than that. The SATA cables for the hard drives, for example, are routed to a set of sockets mounted on an internal backplane. The drives are mounted on trays that slide into a rack and plug into this backplane.

Two vertically mounted slot-fed DVD burners are hidden inside the case’s heatsink-like grill, with only LED-lit eject buttons revealing their presence. The case can accommodate a third (tray type) optical drive next to the other two. An equally well-disguised pop-up module on top of the case harbors a 15-in-1 media-card reader, jacks for a headphone and mic, two USB ports, and a FireWire port.

Close this swing-out panel and its spring-steel strips will push installed PCI Express cards firmly into their slots.

We’re excited about many of the Blackbird’s innovations, but HP’s decision to send us a Vista PC severely undermined the machine’s gaming benchmark numbers (including a Quake 4 performance that was slower than our aging zero-point rig’s). “What about DX10?” you ask. “Pretty much irrelevant for now,” we say. And while we applaud the company’s decision to enable CrossFire on an nForce motherboard, our experience has been that Nvidia’s GeForce 8800 GTX and 8800 Ultra are both faster than the Radeon HD 2900 XT (although the GTX’s edge evaporates when running Vista).

Buy this machine and you won’t care which camp wins the next skirmish in the GPU wars because you’ll be covered either way—as rightly you should be. That’s just one of the features that endow the Blackbird 002 with such potential for greatness. Yes, this PC deserves so much better than Vista.

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The Blackbird has the best access panel we've ever seen on a PC, with a chrome-plated latch, slick hinges, and a foam-rubber gasket that dampens all vibration-induced noise.

HP Blackbird 002
www.hp.com
plus
Raven

Awesome design using standard components; CrossFire running on nForce.

minus
Craven

Videocard driver crash bug; unimpressive gaming performance (due to Vista).

verdict:7
SPECS
  HP Blackbird 002
CPU Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 quad core (3GHz overclocked to 3.67GHz)
MOBO ASUS Striker Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i SLI)
RAM 2GB Corsair Dominator XMS2 DDR2 (800MHz overclocked to 1,0066MHz)
LAN Dual Gigabit LAN (Nvidia)
HARD DRIVES Two 160GB WD Raptors (10,000rpm SATA) in RAID-0, one 750GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
OPTICAL Two TSST TS-T632L DVD burners
VIDEOCARD Two Ati Radeon HD 2900 XTs with 1GB GDDR4 memory in CrossFire
SOUNDCARD Analog Devices Integrated Digital SoundMax HD Audio
CASE HP Blackbird
BENCHMARKS
  HP Blackbird 002
SYSmark2004 SE WNR
Premiere Pro 2.0 1,380 sec
Photoshop CS2 131 sec
Recode H.264 WNR
FEAR 1.07 130 fps
Quake 4 105.3 fps
Our current desktop test bed is a Windows XP SP2 machine, using a dual-core 2.6GHz Athlon 64 FX-60, 2GB of Corsair DDR400 RAM on an Asus A8N32-SLI motherboard, two GeForce 7900 GTX videocards in SLI mode, a Western Digital 4000KD hard drive, a Sound Blaster X-Fi soundcard, and a PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 850 PSU.
COMMENTS:10
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avatarIf you hate...

I will buy it from you or at least the case... thats all i want haha cant find one anywhere haha!!!!

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avatarNoise Factor>

Hey Murph,

Thinking about picking up this rig to replace my old Alienware workstation as it's just too damned noisy for recording or gaming for that matter. Sounds like a blow dryer under my desk.

Wondering how the Blackbird fared on the noise front? (and would like to 'hear' you guys expound on this factor on future system reviews)

Is this system - specifically the liquid cooled version - quiet enough to use as a home studio rig - and to also game without need to crank just to get the audio over the 'noise floor.

Thanks!

Joe-

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avatarBlackbird noise level & blue screen of death

I just got a new Blackbird and I hate to say it because I always seem to read such good things about the Blackbird but this is absolutely the noisiest PC I have ever had. I thought that liquid cooling would mean silence but this thing also has 3 fans and the noise is very loud and irritating. It's like some industrial equipment. If my wife speaks or yells to me from the other room I now have to leave my office and ask her to repeat.

It also always takes several attempts to start due to the blue screen of death....always, even after it just goes to sleep. I have owned many computers since 1993 and been given many at work. This is by far the worst as far as problems go. I wish I had XP on it and I am thinking of attempting a dual boot configuration but I have never done that and am afraid would screw it up. Plus HP just told me that they would not support that so I assume that means it would void the warrantee.

Also it seems that every piece of hardware I try to hook up whether it be a camera, microphone or whatever is incompatible. I hate Vista and I see no use for it except that it looks cool and gives MS something new to sell. It is a super resource hog and was obviously not ready to go public.

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avatarWNR

I find that WNR (Would Not Run) seems to be considered a minor issue in rating a system. It seems to me that a system that can not run a benchmark, that an older system can, leaves a lot to be desired. Is there any attempt to determine why it WNR. In the case of the Blackbird, is it the multi-core or video cards causing the problem? Has any maker of such a system responed to the WNR?

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avatarre: WMR

If you've been keeping track of the latest MPC system reviews, you'll note that most, if not all systems toss up a WNR for SysMark. The benchmarking is simply unstable as all get-out. If it runs, it's a great measurement... but that's a pretty big if.

I believe we'll have this corrected when the new benchmarks start rolling out.

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avatarVista

I agree with the first poster, Vista is here like it or not, and all new machines should come with it.

Gaming performance with Nvidia's new drivers is just a tad behind XP.

I am just saddened that HP sent an ATI unit. All the pre-configured units on the site have Nvidia. The Nvidia systems were setting records on other sites.

The amazing technology here, the very new approach in design, and the open ended system coming from a Tier 1 OEM should rate it at least an 8.

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avatarWe rate 'em how they come

We rate 'em how they come in, netsez, not on available options. There's a lot to love about the Blackbird - its build quality and looks are absolutely unprecedented. But I still prefer XP for gaming, even if it means foregoing DX10 support for now. Vista IS the wave of the future, there's no denying it, but at present XP is still the best for gaming.

I don't fault HP for shipping with Vista, but I do fault them for NOT shipping with XP. A dual-boot would have been just the ticket.

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avatarVista again

Your prefernce for XP seems to go against your mags new lead article about DX 10 games.

Still, we are talking just a few fps difference on some games, and the Blackbird is so revolutionary in so many other ways I thought it deserved an 8.

Edit: But I respect your call!

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avatarI'm suprised that you guys

I'm suprised that you guys are suprised by vista being installed on your test system. Of course HP is going to put the latest OS on a system that's going out for review. I can say with confidence that most outlets would ding the score for having XP installed instead of Vista.
What does suprise me is that there are so many configurations for this system. It seems everyone has diffrent hardware in the ones they are sent. Most I have seen score higher on the benchmarks than the ones sent to MPC and have 8800s installed instead of Radeons.

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avatarReally? I think that it was

Really? I think that it was right of MPC to ding them for putting something on a system that knowingly hampers its performance, especially considering this comps intended audience. Also, these reviews are serious business; they should know that MPC doesn't base scores off of shininess, but rather functionality and performance. I think that they sent one in with Radeons to show off its tweaked nforce chip set.

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